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Quick Look: The Political Machine 2012

They say politics and homicidal robots should never mix, but Brad and his campaign team disagree.

Sit back and enjoy as the Giant Bomb team takes an unedited look at the latest video games.

Aug. 4 2012

Cast: Dave, Jeff, Brad

Posted by: Drew

In This Episode:

The Political Machine 2012

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This looks remarkably interesting. It's a shame that you can't play as an Independent candidate though.

They should made a game like this for the UK General Election. You have to run your own political party and try to become Prime Minister.

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@Tarsier: @7:53, Brad and Dave clearly know who he is. What do you want them to do, go on a diatribe on how the executive branch would benefit from libertarian policies? It's a Quick Look not an Endurance Run.

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@ddensel said:

@Tarsier: @7:53, Brad and Dave clearly know who he is. What do you want them to do, go on a diatribe on how the executive branch would benefit from libertarian policies? It's a Quick Look not an Endurance Run.

i said they showed ignorance i didnt say they didnt know who he was lol. its just a sadness which i see and un expected.

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Not sure if I feel sad more for the team that made this game that probably doesn't sell all too well or the people that buy it.

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This game needs non-combat pets.

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@ThePickle said:

@audioBusting said:

I'm not 'merican and what is electoral college. I guess I won't be getting this game.

Each state has a certain number of electoral votes attached to it, based on size and population (California has 55, New Jersey has 14, Montana has 3). So, in the 2012 election if Obama wins the majority vote in California, he gets 55 electoral votes. A candidate needs 270 votes to win.

The system certainly has its flaws. In the 2000 election, Al Gore actually won the popular vote but Bush got into office because he won the electoral college. It also leads to candidates only campaigning in the few major "swing states" (states with a lot of votes that vary between Republican and Democrat) like Florida. Nixon lost the 1960 election because he tried campaigning in all 50 states, unlike Kennedy who focused on the big ones.

This map on HuffPo might help sort this out: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/romney-vs-obama-electoral-map

If anyone wants a straight up explanation of the Electoral College but without any references to candidates (purely an explanation of it with a little bit of made up examples to help show different outcomes) then here is a fantastic video explaining it by C.G.P Grey (he has lots of other videos that are very good; in particular, he goes into greta depth on different voting systems and the pros and cons of them). Hopefully this helps explain it (it definitely helped me since I am not American as well).

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@Dixavd: That guy also did a great video on the breakdown of UK/Great Britain/England confusion and the terribleness of pennies. I used Gore/Bush as an example because it's an easy example of how it's a flawed system (I think it's the only time a candidate has won the popular vote but didn't become President), and Nixon/Kennedy as an example of how it can affect a candidates campaign. That election was also when personality and looks became a huge factor in the elections.

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Stack Stackhouse -- Harder. Better. Faster. Stronger.

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If this game allows me to be on the take to organized crime in order to fund my campaign, I'm in! :D

Mr. Stewart 2012

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@ThePickle: Oh yeah those are great videos. And I totally get why you said it, I just kniw that people like me understand these things much better when they are shiwn visually or are shown abstractly in fake examples so that names and real-life events don't start to cloud the judgement being shown (when it is explained akin to "if Team A did this then... but if they did this then..." as it helps people like me understand when the flaws can arise as well as why it is still in use.

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Really disappointed that once the basketball jokes started pouring in, no one thought to rename the character to "Shaq Shaqhouse."

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@Tarsier: All of the Giant Bomb staff are transparently liberal. How is them making a sardonic jab at Ron Paul "unexpected?"

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Stack Stackhouse is a bastard. He doesn't even know who is real father is! What else don't we know about Stack Stackhouse?

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thumbnail = nightmares

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I'm President Obama and this is my favorite restaurant on the citadel.

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Boooo, liberals, boooo.

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@Tarsier said:

@damnable_fiend said:

@Tarsier said:

woa i didnt think giant bomb would be ignorant about ron paul

what are you talking about

I know who ron paul is. he's that guy who is crazy and loves ayn rand :]

i was referring to the video, jeff and brad show ignorance of ron paul. unexpected

The GB crew are largely sensible guys. Dismissing ron paul's batshit policy positions is entirely expected imo

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They've made fun of Paul before. Listen to the Bombcast.

Also, they make fun of a lot of things. So, taking it personal seems overly sensitive.

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Two robots enter, one robot leaves.

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@Nethlem said:

@dagas said:

So all you do is look at what the people want and say whatever they want to hear? And then the game ends when you become presdent so you don't even have to do anything you promise?...yup sounds pretty realistic.

Modern Democracy in a nutshell! As such this game is not just a simple video game but like a meta commentary on the state of our modern world. Kinda funny but also really scary :/

Bread and circuses my friend.

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Required.

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One of the funniest quicklooks this year.

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so i was using stumble upon while i was watching this quicklook. and the first time i pressed the button, i saw a list of web links the first being.....Robot For President. i dont suggest u look at it, since i didnt go to it. but WHAT ARE THE CHANCES!!!!!

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@Chadster said:

Stack Stackhouse is a bastard. He doesn't even know who is real father is! What else don't we know about Stack Stackhouse?

I heard he may or may not have an illegitimate black child.
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@Chadster: MORE LIEK BLACK BLACKHOUSE

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I just don't know who would want this game? Politics aside it looks dumb.

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@Darkstorn said:

@Tarsier said:

@damnable_fiend said:

@Tarsier said:

woa i didnt think giant bomb would be ignorant about ron paul

what are you talking about

I know who ron paul is. he's that guy who is crazy and loves ayn rand :]

i was referring to the video, jeff and brad show ignorance of ron paul. unexpected

The GB crew are largely sensible guys. Dismissing ron paul's batshit policy positions is entirely expected imo

lol now its not unexpected that there are typical brainwashed liberals on the giant bomb FORUM, but i just didnt think the crew would be ignorant about paul. i dont think they are brainwashed liberals, they seem too smart for that. jeff not so much.

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@Tarsier said:

@Darkstorn said:

@Tarsier said:

@damnable_fiend said:

@Tarsier said:

woa i didnt think giant bomb would be ignorant about ron paul

what are you talking about

I know who ron paul is. he's that guy who is crazy and loves ayn rand :]

i was referring to the video, jeff and brad show ignorance of ron paul. unexpected

The GB crew are largely sensible guys. Dismissing ron paul's batshit policy positions is entirely expected imo

lol now its not unexpected that there are typical brainwashed liberals on the giant bomb FORUM, but i just didnt think the crew would be ignorant about paul. i dont think they are brainwashed liberals, they seem too smart for that. jeff not so much.

Nobody's fucking brainwashed, they just hold different political ethics/ideals/stances/fuck than you.

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This is a pretty accurate view of how the rest of the world sees the american elections... true story.

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Stack Stackhouse would make for a better president than ron paul

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@SathingtonWaltz said:

@Tarsier said:

@Darkstorn said:

@Tarsier said:

@damnable_fiend said:

@Tarsier said:

woa i didnt think giant bomb would be ignorant about ron paul

what are you talking about

I know who ron paul is. he's that guy who is crazy and loves ayn rand :]

i was referring to the video, jeff and brad show ignorance of ron paul. unexpected

The GB crew are largely sensible guys. Dismissing ron paul's batshit policy positions is entirely expected imo

lol now its not unexpected that there are typical brainwashed liberals on the giant bomb FORUM, but i just didnt think the crew would be ignorant about paul. i dont think they are brainwashed liberals, they seem too smart for that. jeff not so much.

Nobody's fucking brainwashed, they just hold different political ethics/ideals/stances/fuck than you.

no, i disagree completely. a lot of people are brainwashed. a LOT.

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@Tarsier: Again: The crew expressed happiness at Obama's victory during the first post-election Bombcast, Jeff and Brad take multiple slights against conservative figureheads and policies in this video alone, and Giant Bomb is stationed in San Francisco, one of the most progressive cities in all of America. What made you believe they're not progressive?

And as others have pointed out, making fun of a politician doesn't mean you're unaware of their policies or even against that person. Plenty of people mock politicians that they like. Why are you so defensive of Ron Paul?

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@sissylion said:

@Tarsier: Again: The crew expressed happiness at Obama's victory during the first post-election Bombcast, Jeff and Brad take multiple slights against conservative figureheads and policies in this video alone, and Giant Bomb is stationed in San Francisco, one of the most progressive cities in all of America. What made you believe they're not progressive?

And as others have pointed out, making fun of a politician doesn't mean you're unaware of their policies or even against that person. Plenty of people mock politicians that they like. Why are you so defensive of Ron Paul?

did they make fun of ron paul? all they said was that he would say "no" to everything. all that shows is ignorance. i dont think giant bomb are brainwashed/stupid enough to not support ron paul after researching his views and policies . . i just dont think they pay much attention to politics at all. and in some ways i dont blame them for it, its quite disgusting and easy to just turn away from .

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@Tarsier: Oh, so they snidely reduced his policies into one general caricature in a humorous way? Like a joke? Because that's what a joke is. They made a joke. A joke is what they made.

And I won't get into a debate with you about the merits of Ron Paul, but I can assure you that both Brad and Vinny are pretty politically conscientious. Their values aren't invalid just because their contrast with yours.

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@sissylion said:

@Tarsier: Oh, so they snidely reduced his policies into one general caricature in a humorous way? Like a joke? Because that's what a joke is. They made a joke. A joke is what they made.

And I won't get into a debate with you about the merits of Ron Paul, but I can assure you that both Brad and Vinny are pretty politically conscientious. Their values aren't invalid just because their contrast with yours.

youre trying to get at me which i under stand and i am glad you are not interested in arguing politics on here because im not either . and yes, they made a joke, a joke which was not funny, and was not stated in a humorous manner, and did nothing but show ignorance ! if you believe that it was funny and that ron paul says no to everything then you are simply ignorant as well, and have probably been consuming some brainwashy type media! llet me also clarify i have no problem with giant bomb for this. it was unexpected, thats all i said . i also disagree with their tastes in music and in a lot of video games and movies but that doesnt make me dis like them at all . have a nice day

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@Tarsier: Man, you have some things that you need to work out, and a video game website definitely isn't the place to do so. I won't indulge you in anything more because I'm afraid that it'll only work as negative reinforcement, so I'll leave you with this:

If your political opinion is so important to you that it needs to permeate everything you consume and be shared by every person you take interest in (which you have made it seem to be), Giant Bomb, a site run by a group of progressive, Democratic-voting Californians, is not the site for you.

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@sissylion said:

@Tarsier: Man, you have some things that you need to work out, and a video game website definitely isn't the place to do so. I won't indulge you in anything more because I'm afraid that it'll only work as negative reinforcement, so I'll leave you with this:

If your political opinion is so important to you that it needs to permeate everything you consume and be shared by every person you take interest in (which you have made it seem to be), Giant Bomb, a site run by a group of progressive, Democratic-voting Californians, is not the site for you.

i dont understand where you got any of these ideas from but ok! :) in my post i basically said 'i didnt expect the giant bomb crew to be ignorant about ron paul'... what youre trying to create is weird and its the only current source of negativity in this comment thread! also you seem to be not wanting to engage in negativity or and argument. and if thats true you should stop putting words in my mouth ! because i am going to defend against that!

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Stack Stackhouse originated from Kenya.exe

SHOW THE LONGFORM CONSOLE LOG

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Fucking Christ you guys, stop debating politics.

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@sissylion: The mere fact that you assume that they are "democratic voting" simply because they live in California, is one of the biggest problems with California(I live in Marin and it drives me nuts). Also, this is not the place for this kind of debate, and I doubt the video was ever intended to create such a debate.

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Based 2012

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@Tarsier said:

@SathingtonWaltz said:

@Tarsier said:

@Darkstorn said:

@Tarsier said:

@damnable_fiend said:

@Tarsier said:

woa i didnt think giant bomb would be ignorant about ron paul

what are you talking about

I know who ron paul is. he's that guy who is crazy and loves ayn rand :]

i was referring to the video, jeff and brad show ignorance of ron paul. unexpected

The GB crew are largely sensible guys. Dismissing ron paul's batshit policy positions is entirely expected imo

lol now its not unexpected that there are typical brainwashed liberals on the giant bomb FORUM, but i just didnt think the crew would be ignorant about paul. i dont think they are brainwashed liberals, they seem too smart for that. jeff not so much.

Nobody's fucking brainwashed, they just hold different political ethics/ideals/stances/fuck than you.

no, i disagree completely. a lot of people are brainwashed. a LOT.

look at this brainwashed libertarian

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Why is this a game?

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@NAQ said:

@Tarsier said:

@SathingtonWaltz said:

@Tarsier said:

@Darkstorn said:

@Tarsier said:

@damnable_fiend said:

@Tarsier said:

woa i didnt think giant bomb would be ignorant about ron paul

what are you talking about

I know who ron paul is. he's that guy who is crazy and loves ayn rand :]

i was referring to the video, jeff and brad show ignorance of ron paul. unexpected

The GB crew are largely sensible guys. Dismissing ron paul's batshit policy positions is entirely expected imo

lol now its not unexpected that there are typical brainwashed liberals on the giant bomb FORUM, but i just didnt think the crew would be ignorant about paul. i dont think they are brainwashed liberals, they seem too smart for that. jeff not so much.

Nobody's fucking brainwashed, they just hold different political ethics/ideals/stances/fuck than you.

no, i disagree completely. a lot of people are brainwashed. a LOT.

look at this brainwashed libertarian

HUG IT OUT.

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Lol love the comments on this.

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@gladspooky said:

@mnzy said:

Why are some videos not on youtube? Hate the player here.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

rofl

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@Sbaitso: Never said that their collective progressive stance was a direct product of where they live. Half the guys aren't even from the state.

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Nice to see "Dr. No" getting his token appearance.

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Oh jeez, politics on giantbomb. You guys get worked up over Patrick Klepek never mind world leaders. 

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See friends this Is why we don't TALK about politics. Can't we just all get along