DOES NOT COMPUTE

Jeff can't figure this out. In that case, I have no idea what this fucking means.
 
There's no way this is possible is all I am going to say.

Look around say 4:40 if you don't want listen the whole thing

Wow, that is a shocker. I don't know what this will do for the fighting game scene in Japan..and when the familiars come to Evo from Japan, they'd be at a serious disadvantage playing a game they're not familiar with at all.
 
Also, most US tournaments are on console, but offline. There are no lag tactics in person..

HAHAHA! Take that East and West Coast! You guys don't get the head start like you did last time. Rise of the mid-coast!
 
In all seriousness this will just lead to more people going to other people's houses. So if pro players want to get into this game (like they should and I almost say guarantee) they will have to go to someones house instead of like AI or Chinatown Fair.

This feels like strictly fan service to the non-Japan console players, when you consider how huge the arcade scene is in Japan.

" DOES NOT COMPUTE "

Ardade? What's that?!

This is pretty crazy. It doesn't effect me directaly but I guess if these Japanese players that pretty much exclusively play the Arcade versions want to get into this game competatively they're gunna have to go round people houses or to community halls and set up a bunch of consoles or something because playing online is no good as there's alot of tactics that only work because of the lagg.

As Jeff might say, who is SSF4 for?
 
In only matters to me personally in the sense that arcade releases do get balance tweaks and usually end up considerably better balanced on consoles when they're released.  So far I'm not super interested in SSF4, but maybe that will come.
 
IMO, Capcom is going about SSF4 in all the wrong ways so far.

Meh. Who cares?

" As Jeff might say, who is SSF4 for?  In only matters to me personally in the sense that arcade releases do get balance tweaks and usually end up considerably better balanced on consoles when they're released.  So far I'm not super interested in SSF4, but maybe that will come.  IMO, Capcom is going about SSF4 in all the wrong ways so far. "

" @TheMustacheHero: It's a pretty sweet package for those people I guess.  Most of those people probably didn't care much for SF4 if they hadn't bought it yet.  Casual gamers maybe?  Maybe they'll tie in Natal & PS3 ice cream support too? "

This is absolutely mind-boggling. Like Ultima said, this will benefit the American scene an awful lot. One of the main reasons that Japan is always 3-4 months ahead of North America is the number of arcades and the density of high-quality competition. I wonder how much of that edge will be lost when (if?) the Japanese scene switches to console. If arcades don't run console tournaments, top players will either have to go out of the way to seek each other out or play almost exclusively online, the latter of which is currently functional, but hardly ideal if you're a bleeding-edge Japanese expert. The first months after release will be very interesting, and the American SBO teams may have their first real shot at finally cracking that nut come the end of August next year.

Maybe now all the hard-core American players can finally stop crying over the Japanese players' advantages. 

Real question is if arcades will stick with the old version or try to get a console setup in the arcades. Put an xbox inside a cabinet and it's basically the same. But if they do that then Jap players can't use the card system anymore, which is something I always thought was cool.

...That seems like a really stupid idea when you consider that SFIV is probably one of Japan's most popular arcade games. 
 
However, it does imply that they are going to put out the console versions faster than they would have otherwise.

How can that be?  Are the console only characters like Cammy and Dan never going to make it to the arcades?  I can't believe that.

The arcade income must not have impressed the suits at capcom, so they're terminating it. Super is probably an experiment to see if SFIV actually created enough retaining customers to support the franchise on console.  The answer is obviously no.
 
Japanese console sales have always been low. In the US, every Gamestop is filled with used copies of SFIV, and we've seen the reaction to Super in comments and on forums- they hate it. They paid $60 to lose as Ken, why pay $40 to lose again? Most of the sales on SFIV were probably from hype. Sure, it might have a small faithful supporting, but I doubt Capcom is interested in a negligible series, they want killers like the RE series.
 
I think it's very possible this is the last Street Fighter we'll see in a long long time, if ever again. Capcom doesn't like Street Fighter, not really. Bringing it back was an odd experiment that they probably think is failing. I know Ono had to fight tooth and nail to get the greenlight for SFIV at all.

Since this isn't getting release in the arcades, I wonder how the arcade scene is doing in Japan now.

" Since this isn't getting release in the arcades, I wonder how the arcade scene is doing in Japan now. "

" HAHAHA! Take that East and West Coast! You guys don't get the head start like you did last time. Rise of the mid-coast!  In all seriousness this will just lead to more people going to other people's houses. So if pro players want to get into this game (like they should and I almost say guarantee) they will have to go to someones house instead of like AI or Chinatown Fair. "

" The arcade income must not have impressed the suits at capcom, so they're terminating it. Super is probably an experiment to see if SFIV actually created enough retaining customers to support the franchise on console.  The answer is obviously no.   Japanese console sales have always been low. In the US, every Gamestop is filled with used copies of SFIV, and we've seen the reaction to Super in comments and on forums- they hate it. They paid $60 to lose as Ken, why pay $40 to lose again? Most of the sales on SFIV were probably from hype. Sure, it might have a small faithful supporting, but I doubt Capcom is interested in a negligible series, they want killers like the RE series.   I think it's very possible this is the last Street Fighter we'll see in a long long time, if ever again. Capcom doesn't like Street Fighter, not really. Bringing it back was an odd experiment that they probably think is failing. I know Ono had to fight tooth and nail to get the greenlight for SFIV at all. "

This strikes me as odd.
 
Unless they update the current arcades to the console version of SFIV, then release SSFIV as a console release... This doesn't seem to make too much sense.
 
Looking at the successful characer's used at EVO... none of the new characters, including Seth, did as well as the originals. I don't see why they can't update it after collecting enough info.
 

Perhaps there is indeed a shift in revenue. Where the Arcade version just doesn't bring enough revenue compared to it's console counterparts. 
 
Therefore Capcom doesn't find the need to invest in an Arcade version, and decided to go console only. Aside from a limited amount of arcade tournaments (Well, unless it's in Japan), most tournaments use consoles.
 
 
However, since a lot of people still think a fighting game proves itself in arcades... (I personally don't think so, A lot of arcade fighters have problems concerning balance or bugs etc).
 
It should be wise for Capcom to update the arcades, even as a PR stunt.

I'm guessing they'll just wait a while before bringing it out to arcades. It's just like the exlusive DLC lines. In the end, those lines go no where. 

   @StaticFalconar said: 

" @Chocobo_Blitzer said:

" The arcade income must not have impressed the suits at capcom, so they're terminating it. Super is probably an experiment to see if SFIV actually created enough retaining customers to support the franchise on console.  The answer is obviously no.   Japanese console sales have always been low. In the US, every Gamestop is filled with used copies of SFIV, and we've seen the reaction to Super in comments and on forums- they hate it. They paid $60 to lose as Ken, why pay $40 to lose again? Most of the sales on SFIV were probably from hype. Sure, it might have a small faithful supporting, but I doubt Capcom is interested in a negligible series, they want killers like the RE series.   I think it's very possible this is the last Street Fighter we'll see in a long long time, if ever again. Capcom doesn't like Street Fighter, not really. Bringing it back was an odd experiment that they probably think is failing. I know Ono had to fight tooth and nail to get the greenlight for SFIV at all. "

Troll much? Why don't you go work for Activision with that attitude "

" I'm guessing they'll just wait a while before bringing it out to arcades. It's just like the exlusive DLC lines. In the end, those lines go no where.  "

Can't say I'm shocked.  Nothing has made a whole lot of sense about any of this SSFIV crap.

I love the difference in approach between the different companies. Sega updated Virtua Fighter 5 for arcades like three times. Tekken 6 has been in arcades for two years, and was updated a year ago. Capcom on the other hand, brought it to arcades only a few months before the console release, and seems to have given up on updating the arcade machines. 
 
As has been said in this thread already, the way that Capcom are handling SSF4 is pretty poor, and could well be another vital nail in the coffin of the Japanese arcade scene, which, while still pretty big, has been dropping big time in recent years. I just think the whole thing is a massive bummer.

So. this one won't be, but maybe Hyper Street Fighter IV 3rd Strike Turbo remix will be. There will probably be more versions of the game and maybe it makes more sense to release a later version.

They said SF4 wasn't going to be arcade either, but then surprise loc-tests happened a couple of months later. I really doubt they wouldn't put this out in arcades, but if that were the case it would be a serious blow against SSF4. 
 
You might think that it doesn't affect you since you don't play these people and you don't play the people that play them either, but in truth the Japanese arcade scene has driven every SF game to 'be all it can be'. The resurgence in SF3 popularity wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for Japanese tapes making it's way over to America for instance. The hype generation and innovation that the Japanese arcade rats create is very much a part of how the game evolves. If you played Third Strike a lot you might remember how Makoto, after several years of obscurity, suddenly burst out and became one of the best characters in the game. Without the insanely hardcore arcade players we won't have that happen again. I can't stress the importance of the arcade scene as an innovator and hype machine enough, the majority of people who bought SF4 are casual players and will move on leaving the game dead, but the arcade scene might discover something new or release a video of a stupendous match that will get people excited for the game again and there will be a resurgence in players. 
 
Without the arcade we'll have a much smaller player base, but the level of competition will drop like a fucking rock because the best players are the ones we'll be losing. And it's not like Daigo, Mago and all the other "famous" players will move to consoles, nor will Japanese arcades modify consoles into arcade cabs or any other silliness like that. They will just play another arcade game, because they are arcade players before anything else. The reason the arcade scene fosters so many advances in the games is because they got a community in their arcades, it wouldn't transfer to consoles in the same way. People wouldn't just go back to playing ST, TS and the next hot arcade release and not worry about SSF4 at all.

" @lordofultima: My prediction, Japan's new wave of arcades will evolve to something along the lines of lan gaming centers where there are a bunch of 360 and PS3s around with SSF4 on them. Seriously, nothing can truly replace the true arcade scene since there is something called human interaction that you don't get with online, ever. "

I shall start building arcade cabinets using ps3 and old CRT TVs and send them to all the arcades in the world. Charge 16,000 dollars a pop and call it a day. That way I get rich quick and SSF4 gets an arcade release.

" @animateria: At the 5 on 5 team battle, Team Wild card (composed of nothing but Console exclusive characters) surprised a lot of people and placed 2nd. "

" @StaticFalconar said:

" @animateria: At the 5 on 5 team battle, Team Wild card (composed of nothing but Console exclusive characters) surprised a lot of people and placed 2nd. "

Mike Ross = Honda, Hseng Chang = Akuma, Dagger G = Guile. All not console characters.
 
edit: Seems there may be an arcade release of SSFIVafter all, maybe Ono was toying with our hearts? "

arcades are dead get the fuck over it

" @leky1: I have Street Fighter IV cabs 10 minutes from my house. Dead for you, not for me. bgpo "

Damn you Yoko!  Damn you straight to hell!