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    Team Fortress 2

    Game » consists of 12 releases. Released Oct 10, 2007

    The long-awaited sequel to the class-based first-person shooter Team Fortress Classic sports a unique cartoony visual style, more accessible gameplay, and a very large amount of updates and new features since its original release.

    The Kid Who Created Team Fortress 2's Controversial Anti-Free-to-Play Mod

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    #51  Edited By PixelGorilla
    So I'm curious, why does the article refer to him as a kid? I mean, the article gives no indication as to what his age is and it seems that given his other work and knowledge of these systems, I'd peg him as an older gentleman. At least college aged. 
    @Styl3s
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    Play on Vanilla servers. They operate as if TF2 hasn't ever been updated. 
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    Well, I bought TF2 for €20, but I haven't purchased anything from the store, so fuck that guy.

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    #53  Edited By crushed

    @lordofultima said:

    The PC community contradicts itself. We want games, oh no player base, becomes F2P, now they're elitist and try to segregate themselves. What on earth kind of logic is that?

    Honestly, the reaction to F2P by the TF2 community has been overwhelmingly positive. On most servers I play on, people will see a F2Per doing something wrong, laugh a little and maybe record it for posterity, while at the same time helping them out or explaining what they need to do.

    There are a very small handful of jerks (mostly the users on the Steam user forums who complain about everything and barely know how to play the game themselves) who like to pretend they're much better, but it's way smaller than you'd expect based on how enthusiastic the community is.

    When TF2 players heard about this mod, our immediate reaction was, "Oh, for like trade servers. It'd be dumb on regular servers, but nobody's gonna use it there."

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    #54  Edited By JoeyRavn

    Well, if you are running your own server, you run it as you want. If you want to restrict entrance to only people who have bought the game before it went F2P, where's the problem with that? F2P players can go and pick another server, as simple as that. There's no more seggregation here than preventing people with an X amount of ping to enter the server, or blocking IPs from X region.

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    #55  Edited By raiz265
    @S0ndor said:
    Well, I bought TF2 for €20, but I haven't purchased anything from the store, so fuck that guy.
    Huh? 
     
    " anyone who purchased Team Fortress 2 in the past automatically became a premium member when the switch was pulled."
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    #56  Edited By TotalEklypse
    @Styl3s said:

    Get rid of the stupid hats and stat based weapons and i will re-install TF2, till then that game is dead to me, valve ruined it.

    No one misses the whiners. You should just stick with COD or something.
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    #57  Edited By GaspoweR

    The first time i got my own laptop with a reasonable video card two years ago, I downloaded Steam and participated during the TF2 free to play weekend...I had a lot of fun and decided to buy the game when Steam gave a 10% discount for participating.

    Now with TF2 going F2P, I get to play with friends who didn't own TF2 and I have a lot more fun because of it.

    Thanks, Valve.

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    #58  Edited By Clonedzero

    i got the game for free the other day, but i honestly dont really see the problem with this. sure its elitist and douchey, but who cares? its only on private servers who specifically dont want free players on it. 
     
    i havent ran into anyone who's been rude cus i was a new player or free player. if i did i'd just find a new server, theres an insane amount of them lol

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    #59  Edited By wolf_blitzer85

    New players=easy kills. I don't see the problem.

    Seriously it's been so much fun playing as a heavy mowing down everyone just running out into the open. I heard it's been heaven for snipers too.

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    #60  Edited By Cirdain

    Jesus fucking Christ Patrick.. Your articles are amazing. Alex has done alright as well.

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    #61  Edited By warmonked

    I don't see the problem with this... If it's on a private server, then they can do whatever they want. People run absolutely retarded party/music/gravity mods all the time. Just join one of the other hundreds of servers.

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    #62  Edited By musubi

    Spend .99 cents in the store and bada-bing your upgraded.

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    #63  Edited By demarcon

    Amazing article Patrick. As for this mod though, I agree with @Joru , why would anyone want to play on those servers with the people who are stuck up enough to have the mod on it? I've only had TF2 for about 8 months, and don't play very often, but when I do I just wanna have fun with people who aren't going to bitch because I'm not super good at the game. I also only join a total of like 3 servers, and if they are full I just won't play.

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    #64  Edited By handlas
    @thoseposers said:

    @handlas: you're such a hipster :P

    Ya... I got too cool for that shit brah.
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    #65  Edited By Rebirth1337

    No problem here. People pay to run their own servers so they should be allowed to do this. I don't really agree with it but I bought the game years ago so I can pretty much play anywhere.

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    #66  Edited By Chicken008

    I bought TF2 on steam and have yet to play it..

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    #67  Edited By Deusx

    I have no problem with the new players... But I can understand people getting mad at this. I have found so MANY assholes this last week and they where all F2P... This almost never happened to me. It's just about finding the right servers. I spend most of my time in private servers like TF2M and stuff like that so I don't bump with morons all the time like in the valve servers.

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    @raiz265 said:
    @S0ndor said:
    Well, I bought TF2 for €20, but I haven't purchased anything from the store, so fuck that guy.
    Huh?  " anyone who purchased Team Fortress 2 in the past automatically became a premium member when the switch was pulled."
    I misread, but still. Fuck that guy.
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    #69  Edited By Deusx
    @xtrminatr said:

    Amazing article Patrick. As for this mod though, I agree with @Joru , why would anyone want to play on those servers with the people who are stuck up enough to have the mod on it? I've only had TF2 for about 8 months, and don't play very often, but when I do I just wanna have fun with people who aren't going to bitch because I'm not super good at the game. I also only join a total of like 3 servers, and if they are full I just won't play.

    Most of the servers that have the plugin have very experienced players and are made for map training and competitive gameplay. They can't control who gets in there because they want new members all the time. It's just a matter of getting rid of people that "are not worth their time." It's actually a dick move but if you want to keep people playing as a team on a more serious server... well... It's one way to go.
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    #71  Edited By MariachiMacabre

    I welcome the F2P people with open arms

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    #72  Edited By bricewgilbert

    The best part about this is seeing real life politics and prejudice recreated virtually. Screw other people having fun! If there is a possibility I won't get my way 100% of the time then fuck it! I want my perfect society to stay the way it is!

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    #73  Edited By Agent47
    @PeasForFees:  Maybe cause it was never updated.
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    #74  Edited By HydraHam

    @zaglis said:

    @Styl3s said:

    Get rid of the stupid hats and stat based weapons and i will re-install TF2, till then that game is dead to me, valve ruined it.

    Nobody cares. Everyone else is having fun playing with the new weapons and map(s).

    Apparently you care enough to reply.

    And LOL @ all the fanboy replies, to the kid who says go play COD, i don't play COD.

    Sorry i don't love your precious valve game.

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    Thanks for the news, Mr, Klepek. When I first heard about the plugin, I assumed it was made by elitist jerks who didn't want all the other kiddies to have fun in their exclusive club. Now I see there's some logic to it and some legitimate applications. In the end, hopefully everyone everywhere will get along and have fun playing a great game together.

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    #76  Edited By Vexxan

    Oh the things people bitch about on the internet will never surprise me.

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    #77  Edited By falling_fast

    I bought the orange box for pc way back when and have never used it to play tf2, because I wasn't, and am still not, interested at all. so you have nothing to fear from me, I guess.

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    #78  Edited By IamTerics

    This is a unique perspective on the debate. Personally I don't mind the mod. Most servers probably won't even have it. On a side note I thought I read that it can be used to kick non F2P so there can be F2P only servers.

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    #79  Edited By Aus_azn
    @phrosnite said:
    TF2 doesn't interest me. Bring on DOTA 2 but if you can't deny creeps and not lose money when you die like in the noobish LoL, DOTA 2 will be dead to me.
    Until I saw it mentioned, I had completely forgotten about DOTA 2.
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    #80  Edited By bybeach

    Good article. I see reporting like this elsewhere and now I see it here. Idk how to feel about this. If it was aimed more directly at assholes, and lets face it, 99 cents ends the crying, strange as that is, okay. They are private servers, to some extant that should give ppl. control over the venue, I guess. But I would hope to find a valid place to learn the game somewhere without something set up to protect itself from noobie me in effect and still have a good experience with it. Otherwise why bother?

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    #81  Edited By artgarcrunkle

    Totally for this, F2P lookie-loos tend to ruin any game that has even the slightest learning curve.

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    #82  Edited By comradecrash

    People like to defend their community from "outsiders" and everyone does it differently. Reminds me of the final days of the Matrix and Giantbomb going in a reporting about it. That community was hostile at first, then they chilled out.

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    #83  Edited By aspaceinvader

    Well that's one way to alienate new players. How do they expect the community to grow if they keep kicking those who got the game for free. What valve have done is to be commended, i wish more companies would do this from time to time with some of their older games. It's a good way to get more people onto your service. There will always be people who will never be satisfied, you want to kill your game off then alienate player who got the game for free; really smart move on your part. 

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    #84  Edited By Three0neFive

    I don't see the problem here. People pay money for their servers, they have the right to chose who gets to play on them.

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    #85  Edited By time allen
    @Three0neFive said:

    I don't see the problem here. People pay money for their servers, they have the right to chose who gets to play on them.

    they own servers in a game owned entirely by someone else. 
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    #86  Edited By jmrwacko

    I love F2P. Higher KDR.

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    #87  Edited By Sunspots

    Giantbomb is now, (most likely has in the past), being posted on Reddit. I found this link on Reddit and followed it here. And that is a good thing.

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    #88  Edited By dbz1995

    I can understand putting it on trade servers-in fact, that's a great idea.

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    #89  Edited By zor
    @MariachiMacabre said:
    I welcome the F2P people with open arms
    Personally, I welcome them with a knife in the back, but then again, i usually play a spy.
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    #90  Edited By cookiemonster
    @buft said:
    just play on the valve servers and the problem is averted. 
    Yep.
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    #91  Edited By Tennmuerti

    Good job Patrick.

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    #92  Edited By BassmanPaul

    I guess that the TF2 community has joined the other gaggle of cunts called the internet. Cool. Elitism is rife in this medium, another case in point.

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    #93  Edited By dragonzord

    @BassmanPaul said:

    I guess that the TF2 community has joined the other gaggle of cunts called the internet. Cool. Elitism is rife in this medium, another case in point.

    I guess you've joined the gaggle of cunts who can't read an article

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    #94  Edited By CastroCasper

    Very interesting read. I have TF2 with the orange box I had a few years ago and every time I jump in a game, I am immediately kicked. Hell, I was even kicked by Will once in the Tested server. I think my time for that game has passed.

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    #95  Edited By NoXious

    I don't mind Free-to-Play. I do mind the ease at which players can start hacking / ban evading now.

    Thanks Valve! You potentially ruined a great gaming experience just to catch a few cheap-ass punks in your web.

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    #96  Edited By TigerDX

    Shame the technical contents about how this was achieved were not quoted in the article. I would have been really interested to see them.

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    #97  Edited By bacongames

    At least it some some justification. But I have a feeling all those 15 servers aren't just trading ones.

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    #98  Edited By Lazyaza

    While i don't play tf2 I could definitely see the side of the argument that F2P people are ruining the experience. 

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    #99  Edited By zaglis
    @Styl3s said:

    @zaglis said:

    @Styl3s said:

    Get rid of the stupid hats and stat based weapons and i will re-install TF2, till then that game is dead to me, valve ruined it.

    Nobody cares. Everyone else is having fun playing with the new weapons and map(s).

    Apparently you care enough to reply.

    And LOL @ all the fanboy replies, to the kid who says go play COD, i don't play COD.

    Sorry i don't love your precious valve game.

    The less free content hating pricks playing the game, the better.
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    I'm strangely tempted to rent a server and run this mod in the opposite direction, auto-kicking anyone who has a "premium" account, and I don't even like TF2. The thought of even one of these a-holes joining a server, getting kicked, and receiving a "You must have a free TF2 account to play on this server" message warms my heart for some reason.

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