You are of cause free to choose, we are free people. The thing about the Xbox one succeeding is that, it sets a precedents for other corporations that they can do anything and the consumers will swallow it. Gaming as great, we all love gaming but we have to draw the line somewhere. With the information that Microsoft is the FIRST company to sign up for the NSA thing, I have no idea how anyone can trust Microsoft ever again. Aside from the DRM thing the Xbox one is a great piece of hardware, it is the precedent it sets that is truly terrifying.
And please don't come to me saying "oh don't be so melodramatic!" I remember a couple of years ago with the rise of smartphone, people were saying the government were tracking us and people say those guys are paranoid/crazy. Not so crazy now are they?
Choosing a Xbox One does not make you wrong but I truly believe that in the long run it sets a precedent that will slowly but surely destroy consumer's rights.
heh. Let's not be silly, shinji. As Jon Stewart(and later John Oliver) pointed out in The Daily Show segment, "Good News: You're Not Paranoid", he just knew that people would now be able to use the NSA surveillance and IRS targeting as excuses for legitimizing -any- conspiracy theories or biggest fears some might have, and while there is reason to be concerned about what the NSA is doing(which doesn't have to do with new cellphone technology; it has to do with government overreach in the War on Terror), that doesn't mean any possible fear you could ever have about something is rational or appropriate.
The issue with the Xbox One is whether it's a device with features you want, not whether it's a threat to our very way of life.
Of cause I am not suggesting it will somehow destroy my life but corporation and governing bodies have shown over the course of human history that when they have too much power/freedom they will abuse that power. I was really surprise to hear Nestle even suggested the idea of privatizing water? What happen when what they suggest become true? I am 100% sure it wont but what if? I thought about the level of hubris it must take for them to even suggest the idea. That is what I am talking about.
When I go to a restaurant and get the wrong order, most of the time I just tell them its ok just change my order to this. The result of that is now when I go to that restaurant the lazy waiter would bring me wrong order on purpose so they can get rid of order that have been sitting there. The owner eventually told me what happen and fire that waiter after he learn of it. I am saying it is a slippery slope sometimes and I think this is one of those times. Other than the DRM push tho, I love the look of Fantasia (we asian loves Disney, what can I say.)
To be honest, shinji, you kind of lost me, especially with that restaurant part. heh. I mean, I definitely understand concerns over the implications of new technology, and we'll always have those with devices trying new things. I just don't see how this is particularly special in its threat. If it turns out to infringe on something, we'll deal with that, but right now, none of what it's offering seems more restrictive than a personal computer. Or my cellphone. For a videogame console, it's certainly more of a push toward treating physical and digital the same, as PC games have done for over a decade, but as far as an actual consumer device, it isn't somehow worse than a ton of other devices in our lives.
I can perfectly respect that some might consider the Xbox One a console they don't want(I'm leaning toward the PS4 myself), but for people to suggest that it is particularly worse or more threatening than numerous other devices that are already widely accepted in society just gives me the impression that somehow the Xbox One just woke some gamers up to how a device could possibly be a concern for them. For a videogame console, I get why people don't like the feeling of suddenly being forced into something that they will eventually give up willingly over time, but that's something you can affect by just choosing to buy something else.
The possible success of the Xbox One isn't some new or truly imposing threat. It's just another in a long line of instances wherein consumers of modern electronics are giving up flexibility in the hopes of greater convenience. Apple has basically made a business of that kind of tradeoff. There isn't something special here as far as consumer devices go; there's only something special here as far as videogame consoles go. And while that can concern some people, we shouldn't mislead ourselves into thinking that there is more here than there is.
If you don't like the features this console is offering, then don't buy it, and if you like another console's features, perhaps purchase it instead and enjoy the games that will be coming out on it in the future.
That is true. I have never deny anyone their rights to choose. I guess to sum it up. Requiring the Kinect to be hook up all the time for the Xbox one to work is wrong and even tho you can "turn it off" it is still require to be plug in and powered. That is a very real and I believe, not at all far fetch worry for a lot of people, considering the NSA information that came to light. That amount of information/power should not and can not be manage by the best of governing body let alone a corporation, if this happens it will be abuse no doubt about that. That is the slippery slope I was talking about. It is the kinect today with the ever watching eyes, what will come out tomorrow? now that this is acceptable?
The used game stuff I believe will eventually soft itself out, as well as the 24 check in thing. Steam like sales will take care of those issue, Sony is already doing it and Microsoft is trying.
Of cause it matters very little to me since I will go pc this gen. FFxv is being considered to be release for pc so if that happen bye bye console. And for the record I do like the Xbox one it is the policies and the kinect that sickens me.
Really, what will tell the tale is how much information is going from the Kinect to their servers and whether that can be adjusted in the settings. I mean, most laptops come with webcams on them now, but it doesn't mean HP or Dell is watching me at the moment. The issue is simply when people aren't aware that they are being watched, and people will hopefully realize that if they turn on their Kinect, it will actually be on. If someone doesn't want that, then they don't need to buy it, but then, we don't know the true extent of what kind of privacy we might be giving up with it on.
Microsoft has stated that they have already taken many countries' laws in mind and have given options which will allow it to adhere to European privacy laws, and I'd say that's something to keep in mind. It sounds like the Kinect will be similar to a webcam in a laptop; something always connected but optionally turned off and on. They'll certainly be encouraging people to leave it on, but people will still have the choice as to whether they want to allow this device to be on or not. Just as they ultimately have the choice whether or not to bring it into their homes in the first place.
As Jeff said in one of their post-announcement videos, you can bet people will be testing on day one what is being sent back to Microsoft's servers. And we'll know more. The biggest thing is people being informed so that they can willingly choose to embrace this technology or not, and hopefully we'll continue to get a greater understanding of new technology so that we can make better personal decisions on what we do and do not want.
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