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Apple, EA Deny Relationship Over Plants vs. Zombies 2

Both companies publicly deny exclusivity was paid for on iOS.

Apple and Electronic Arts have both vehemently denied the existence of a paid agreement between the two companies to ensure Plants vs. Zombies 2 launched first on iOS.

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These denials are in response to a story I filed yesterday, which featured a comment made by a high-level EA executive about Android.

“Apple gave us a truckload of money to delay the Android version [of Plants vs Zombies 2],” said Frank Gibeau, former head of EA Labels and now in charge of EA Mobile.

This quote was confirmed by multiple sources attending an employee-only Electronic Arts town hall, and was verified by other sources who came forward after the story published.

Nonetheless, an EA spokesperson today called the story categorically "not true."

This expands on a statement from the company last night.

“A comment from an internal meeting taken out of context has created an unfortunate misunderstanding,” said a company spokesperson in a statement yesterday. “Reports of a paid relationship between Apple and EA are factually inaccurate, and we apologize for any confusion.”

Plants vs Zombies 2 launched on Android in early September but only in China. According to Gibeau’s other comments at the meeting, the Android version has been outselling (which most likely means more installs, not necessarily monetization) the iOS version six-to-one in China. The international version will roll out in October.

Not long after the story was published, Apple quickly issued a denial, as well. A spokesperson painted the allegation that Apple paid for the exclusive debut of Plants vs. Zombie 2 as “not true.”

Using the term “paid” in the headline may have been overreaching on my part. Based on Gibeau’s comments, which is reporting that I continue to stand by, it’s more likely the companies entered into an agreement that ensured promotion of Plants vs. Zombies 2 in a very meaningful capacity. Promotion on the App Store is extremely powerful, and can make or break a game’s success. The idea that Apple would think of leveraging this opportunity to broker deals is not a crazy one, but I’m also surprised at the flurry of responses from both Apple and EA in regards to this story. This is common practice in the video game industry. In any other case, it wouldn’t even be a story, but where there is smoke, there is fire. I smell smoke here. Did Apple deliver a briefcase of cash to EA? No. Do I believe there was some agreement between the two? More than ever.

You don’t make a comment about “truckloads of money” unless there’s something to back it up.

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So we can expect a new lunch show called "Scoops and the (fired) Snitch" (Bombin with S&S Think about it, marketing gold) any day now?

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I dont understand why they would deny this? Sony and MS love to boast about their exclusives.

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@amyggen: Another good point, certainly.

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@starvinggamer said:

@patrickklepek said:

You don’t make a comment about “truckloads of money” unless there’s something to back it up.

Beep beep

Truckloads of money backin' up.
Truckloads of money backin' up.

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@patrickklepek: Okay cool, no worries. Just thought if they released some sort of statement in black and white I'd be interested in seeing what context things were said. If they mention PvZ by name or just a general, 'EA is like everyone else who releases on our app store.' Although it does seem weird that they do mention EA by name specifically and not just blow it off as 'we have no special relationship with third parties,' certainly smoke there.

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Yeah, seriously, why is this a big deal?

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typo in the first line

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I remember a quote that seems appropriate (paraphrased, I don't remember the actual quote): "The more vehemently something is true, the more often it is true."

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You don’t make a comment about “truckloads of money” unless there’s something to back it up.

...beep, beep, beep.

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@morningstar: It's also Apple caring more about Android than they usually admit.

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If it's a quote, then it's a quote. Out of context? I guess that's possible. But again, these corporate entities are screaming way too much for there not to be some truth to this.

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ARRRRG! I'm so anrgy that I'll not buy yet another iPhone, I stop at only 5 iPhone models *fakes rage*

c'mon, using "truck loads of money" in the conference (even if invite-only) usually means that some kind of deal was brokered between the 2 parties. Was it a bad choise of words? Probably. Was there some kind of a deal? Most likely. Personally, I find it funny how EA and Apple were quick to outright deny. Too suspicious

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“Apple gave us a truckload of money to delay the Android version [of Plants vs Zombies 2],”

I can't imagine a "context" where this quote means anything but what we all have assumed.

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When using the words "truckloads of money" I'm more likely to assume it wasn't a serious comment.

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Where are the sources of these responding comments coming from? Are these public press releases or private email responses to you @patrickklepek? I tried to google the 'not true' comment from yesterday and couldn't find it, I would've thought other sites would've picked the response up as well? It also seems like other sites are citing the 'truckload' comment mainly linking to Polygon too?

Everything has been private.

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Where are the sources of these responding comments coming from? Are these public press releases or private email responses to you @patrickklepek? I tried to google the 'not true' comment from yesterday and couldn't find it, I would've thought other sites would've picked the response up as well? It also seems like other sites are citing the 'truckload' comment mainly linking to Polygon too?

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@patrickklepek said:

You don’t make a comment about “truckloads of money” unless there’s something to back it up.

Beep beep

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"Now hiring: New head of EA Mobile.

Job requirements: Creativity, motivation, and not being a fuckin' snitch"

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@morningstar said:

Why is this such a big deal? It's not the first time it has happened and not the last.

Because Apple likes to distance itself from being a game publisher as much as possible. They act like they are above games and that games are only a fraction of the reason why people use their devices. So for them to do something like this, it goes against that whole mindset.

Ahh, that'll explain it, thanks for the heads up. I don't know much about Apple as I have none of their devices. They should get off their high horse then, it wouldn't excactly rock the world anyway.

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It's troubling from a leadership perspective at EA because this means Gibeau is either totally out of the loop in his own department or a bald faced liar. He is pretty far up the ladder to the point of being considered CEO when that job came open. I know it happens all the time, but I don't like it when big companies lie.

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yeah, either true or false: I have no clue on why is this such a big deal...

videogames news, the excitement.

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Isn't the only question now... how much did Apple pay EA to say that they never paid them?

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Why is this such a big deal? It's not the first time it has happened and not the last.

Because Apple likes to distance itself from being a game publisher as much as possible. They act like they are above games and that games are only a fraction of the reason why people use their devices. So for them to do something like this, it goes against that whole mindset.

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The amount of effort being put out there to refute the report seems a tad like overkill.

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Being paid in services instead of cash is the same thing. Exchange of value.

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I'VE BEEN LIED TO NOW TELL ME WHO TO BE ANGRY AT!

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Edited By morningstar

Why is this such a big deal? It's not the first time it has happened and not the last.