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E3 Needs to Grow Up

Despite a growing call for change, the organizers of E3 have no plans to address the booth babe issue at the industry's biggest show.

I'm sure these women are well versed in the talking points for Namco Bandai's upcoming fighting game.
I'm sure these women are well versed in the talking points for Namco Bandai's upcoming fighting game.

There’s been no shortage of discussion about women and video games this past week.

The conversation’s been driven by the gross response to Anita Sarkeesian’s nearly finished Kickstarter about the unfortunate and exclusionary tropes of female video game characters, and the quickly scrutinized comments from a producer on Tomb Raider about a potential rape scene (a description the studio has walked back) in the new game.

These are all good, uncomfortable conversations to have, but if we're talking about the depiction of women in games at such a serious level, how do we still have E3 booth babes? Other than for easy hits in web galleries, anyway.

The commonly referred to booth babe (also known as a "woman") is hired solely to wear skimpy clothing with a game or company’s logo and take photographs with attendees (who does that, by the way?). Typically, they are not well versed in the product they are hired to represent.

It seemed like a good time to check in with the Entertainment Software Association, who manages E3.

Despite some of the recent heated conversation, there are no plans to shift E3 policies.

"Exhibitors determine for themselves what is the best representation for their companies. Models are welcome if companies would like to have them, but that's an individual exhibitor decision,” said ESA VP of media relations and event management Dan Hewitt in an emailed statement to me yesterday.

Ghost Recon Commander designer Brenda Brathwaite sparked a vocal debate on Twitter over booth babes before she headed to the E3 show floor last Thursday.

“I dread heading off to work at E3 today,” she said. “The show is a constant assault on the female self esteem no matter which direction I look. I am in good shape, yet it is impossible not to compare. I feel uncomfortable. It is as if I walked into a strip club w/o intending to. These are the policies of @e3expo and @RichatESA. I feel uncomfortable in an industry I helped found.”

Her comments found plenty of support, such as Inside Network managing editor AJ Glasser.

@br The worst is when I get so good at seeing right through it that I forget they're actually women underneath the barely-there clothes.

— AJ Glasser (@Joygirl007) June 7, 2012

It’s not a new critique, but it was louder this year, and there seems to be a growing desire for change.

There was also the usual “what’s the big deal?” responses, including 3D Realms co-founder George Broussard.

@br I think you/others take it too seriously. It's not some academic event. It's a glitz show full of spectacle. #serious_business

— George Broussard (@georgeb3dr) June 7, 2012

It’s been a few years, but the ESA policy on booth babes has changed from E3's inception. The last major shift came in 2006, as new penalties, fines and policies were introduced regarding women featured in E3 exhibits.

"What's new in 2006 is an update and clarification of the enforcement policies; as we do from time to time, we have taken steps to ensure that exhibitors are familiar with the policy and how it will be enforced," said E3 show director Mary Dolaher to Reuters at the time.

A violation of the clothing policy would result in, at first, a warning, and then a $5,000 fine. Here’s what the handbook from 2006 said to exhibitors considering booth babes--er, sorry, live models:

"Material, including live models, conduct that is sexually explicit and/or sexually provocative, including but not limited to nudity, partial nudity and bathing suit bottoms, are prohibited on the show floor, all common areas, and at any access points to the show."

Hewitt told me there have been no changes to ESA policy since 2006.

Maybe there should be. Consider this anecdote that didn’t even take place on the show floor itself.

This was one of the first results the search term
This was one of the first results the search term "Devil May Cry strippers" gave me, sorry.

We arrived to our Capcom appointment, I plunked down with Lost Planet 3, and Alex Navarro was ushered over to play Devil May Cry. In a room of kiosks, there were pole dancers. It’s unclear what that has to do with Devil May Cry. The girl hired to skimpily waltz around was sitting on the floor, looking bored. Everyone in the room is focused on playing the game, and Alex wasn't playing Devil May Cry in a see-through bubble. No one on the show floor could see this room. Can someone explain how this helps anyone do their job?

Elsewhere, I refused to play any 3DS games at Nintendo’s booth because the company didn’t have a table with machines, and instead tethered its lineup to attractive women. I let that gimmick slide when Nintendo pulled the same trick at the original 3DS unveiling, but I’ll just wait until those games are out now, thanks.

Nintendo probably thought it was a cute idea. I doubt (and this is my sincere hope) Nintendo meant to undermine the credibility of women at gaming’s biggest show. It's still ignorance. Many of the issues regarding women and E3 aren’t overtly offensive, and can be easily rationalized by those who don’t see a problem.

That’s okay--we should have a debate about it.

And this is all hardly an issue that’s exclusive to games. The same week as E3, the Computex Summit was happening in Taipei, and computer manufacturer ASUS sent out the following tweet:

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That tweet has since been deleted and ASUS released an apology, obviously.

I can gripe all I want, but the most effective solution has to come from the ESA itself. Only the ESA can enforce regulations on exhibitors, and let them know this archaic marketing tool needs to go away. If games are growing up, so does the way we go about advertising them in front of, ostensibly, a bunch of professional. This isn’t 1994.

PAX figured this out years ago, even if there have been incidents along the way (i.e. Lollipop Chainsaw at PAX East).

“Our definition of a ‘booth babe’ has been a model (male or female) that has been hired to stand/sit in skimpy clothing to market the product,” said Penny Arcade president of business development in 2010. “If that person knows the product inside and out then it’s less of an issue. A company representative that can interact with attendees in a way that provides value as opposed to ‘hey stare at my body’ is something that we encourage whether or not that representative is physically attractive or not.”

If E3 is supposed to represent the industry’s best, why can’t it figure out how to respect its own attendees?

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I totally get what this is about and care. I hope more people do too.

Too many times have I felt the need to pause/switch off/divert attention from some game that is on my screen when a family member walks in. Not just because there is nudity or sexually explicit content, after all these things appear in legitimate, serious artistic ventures, of which I include games.

The reason for the embarrassment is when it serves absolutely no purpose other than to stimulate a male audience. When my partner asks me why that woman is dressed like she's on a beach in Rio during a "serious" encounter or situation e.g. Zombie apocolypse, nuclear holocaust etc. and the best answer I have is "because video games", it's just embarrassing and I get why people do not respect them as much as they perhaps should. They understandably see them as some adolescent kids pastime.

Aside from that, there is the anger I feel at being treated like some emotionally devoid sex fiend male that will only like a game if it has scantily clad woman and boobs. It's not the case and it's insulting.

I would re-iterate, I'm not a prude. These things in a contextually relevant scenario are no problem whatsoever, however uncomfortable the topic. It's the insinuation that we are all idiots that really irks me.

I don't think the fact that the vast majority of advertising for any product or service does this is justification, or at least it shouldn't be. Wouldn't it be great, if this industry could stand proud and be all "Yeah, we don't need that shit. We sell our stuff on it's quality". A lofty goal perhaps, but something that could happen should we wish it.

The thought of trying to play a DS or it's games whilst it is strapped to some attractive woman is frankly absurd at best, deeply offensive and hurtful at worst.

Anyway, that's my input. Let's talk.

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@CaptainCody said:

@Allison said:

GAMERS DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF FEMINISM. NEWS AT THE TOP OF THE HOUR, EVERY HOUR, 'TIL THE END OF TIME.

Yes great there are men who are objectified by women. Hooray this is neither the topic at hand and also completely dismissing the issue of women being objectified. 9 times out of 10 you will see a woman in advertising because guess what? Men make more money on average than women. This means that they are the dominant consumer audience. Which means that the majority of advertising is going to cater towards those white, straight middle to upper class men.

This is how a problem begins. The answer to fixing it is not to ignore or dismiss it, but figure out from here, where you can find solutions. "Booth babes" ARE a problem for the gaming community, and not just women. This very article even admits that they were put off of Nintendo's booth because for the second year in a row, they decided that tethering consoles to women was a good idea. There are so many wrong things at play with a phrase like, "Our consoles are tethered to women so that you male gamers can enjoy." There are ways around booth babes, obviously. Good Old Games did VERY WELL WITH THIS last year at PAX: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLgkW91l6fg

Regardless, I expect a lot of people to flame feminism and feminists like they always do so go right ahead. :)

You seem a little slow. This is a very small percentage of the gaming community here, one in which a majority probably understand feminism better than you and could not give a shit about this because it's all semantics. If you want someone to vent at then go bust down every PR managers' home and free the beast. Lastly, their isn't really much to fix, objecting women has been a thing since the beginning of recorded history, it won't change on the fly. Furthermore, you can't fix something when it isn't broken, it's just people in skimpy clothing, get over it. It's not even menial enough to be described as a first world problem. If you want to argue for objectification of women then go rally people where it is a legitimate problem.

I dont understand why you think one group of random people would understand Feminism better then a single other random person.

The same reason why a single person would generalize an entire mass of people.

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Models want to model. they get paid.

Indeed. I guess people think they are basically forced prostitutes and the PR guys are their pimps.

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I think I need a break from the internet for a while. Topics like this are just starting to make my head hurt and I'd rather go play video games.

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"Exhibitors determine for themselves what is the best representation for their companies. Models are welcome if companies would like to have them, but that's an individual exhibitor decision,” said ESA VP of media relations and event management Dan Hewitt in an emailed statement to me yesterday.

As far as I can tell, E3 and the ESA are giving game developers a choice as to how they present their product. Rather than tell them to buckle down on this, maybe we should shame the companies that actually use booth-babes? The ESA can be held at fault by principle I suppose, but when people are given a choice, I think it only intensifies the moral standing of a company that doesn't engage in such childish practices.

Basically, hate the companies that do this, love the ones that don't. The ESA is just making it easier for us to shame the traditionally disrespectful attitudes employed by these companies.

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Models want to model. they get paid.

Cos-players get to cos-play, they like it.

If E3 is so offensive then don't go, and don't cover it.

It really is that simple.

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I am a firm believer that the booth babe is, and should always be, a staple of E3. You wouldn't take mascots away from sporting events or dressed up characters out of Disney World, so don't take the booth babes out of E3. For many at the show, they are a ray of sunshine amid a sea of bo and poor hygiene. Besides, it's nice to see these girls getting some work that doesn't have them removing dollar bills from their ass crack at the end of the night.

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I do think there is a difference between sexy lady cosplaying as a character and sexy lady with a logo on her shirt

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Isn't it abit patriarchal to say these women should not be allowed to choose to be paid to wear scanty clothing at expositions like this?

As for Brenda Braithwaite's comment "yet it is impossible not to compare"; I have no issue comparing my body to male models. I know they look better than me, but I choose not to aspire to that ideal.

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Referring to the "live with it" comments.

I think people are also forgetting that Men and Woman are two different sexes, and have two different psychologies. Woman compete with each other, not psychical like Men, but mentally. Woman compete with each other even when they are friends. And unlike men, it isn't a playful compete, it is a spiteful thing.

Now I don't want to generalize and say all woman are like this. Im sure there are woman who can rise above it. And I'm not saying men are a better sex, just different. What I am saying is that when a woman says she feels uncomfortable because she is being compared to another woman, that doesn't mean she has issues. It means she grew up in a world which compares Woman all the time.

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Old rich men pay for conventions, old rich men are perverts, conventions full of booth babes?

Also people need to lighten the fuck up, these women are payed to walk around in skimpy clothing. These jobs help a lot of women get through school, make a living,buy food, its not like they're forced into slavery. I've known women who worked as booth babes for conventions, and I've never heard a single one complain about being ogled, and told you're hot all day.

Do you want to suddenly fire every model in L.A because you feel bad looking at boobs? Why don't you grow up?

Sexuality in marketing is here to stay still the day humanity stops enjoying sex.

Also according to Overlord Klepek, form this day forth:

1.All women should wear berkas,and be taught using your sexuality is immoral.

2.Sexuality in marketing is a breach of high morals,and is punishable by damnation from High-Overlord Klepek.

3.The entire modeling industry is incorrect according to Savior Klepek.

Show me the way oh merciful Klepek!!

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@atomic_dumpling said:

@dillonj9889 said:

@Sharpless:

"The issue is nuanced and, goddamn, gamers are shit at recognizing and understanding nuance."

Well said.

It has been "nuanced" for twenty years now. It's odd to see it suddenly used as cheap click-bait in Summer 2012.

Are you referring to this article? Because, if so, would there ever be a way to write about it that you wouldn't consider cheap click-bait? You can't just not address the issue because some people will click on it for the sole purpose of trying to glimpse some babes. I see nothing wrong with anything Patrick said or did in this article. The people harping on the header image are just trying to find cheap ways to deflate Patrick's stance. It's an article about booth babes; it's not unreasonable to include an image of some in the article. Like any important issue, it needs to be discussed, and you can't flippantly disregard any given article on the subject as "click-bait." It's unreasonably dismissive.

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Here we go again, Patrick jumping on another band wagon.

The fact is, a product will get more attention from the male population if there is a beautiful woman linked with it. It happens everywhere from tv adverts, ads in magazines and even DVD covers, why should the video game industry be exempt from it? Also, if the booth babes had any problem with it they wouldn't be one in the first place.

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@CaptainCody said:

@Allison said:

GAMERS DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF FEMINISM. NEWS AT THE TOP OF THE HOUR, EVERY HOUR, 'TIL THE END OF TIME.

Yes great there are men who are objectified by women. Hooray this is neither the topic at hand and also completely dismissing the issue of women being objectified. 9 times out of 10 you will see a woman in advertising because guess what? Men make more money on average than women. This means that they are the dominant consumer audience. Which means that the majority of advertising is going to cater towards those white, straight middle to upper class men.

This is how a problem begins. The answer to fixing it is not to ignore or dismiss it, but figure out from here, where you can find solutions. "Booth babes" ARE a problem for the gaming community, and not just women. This very article even admits that they were put off of Nintendo's booth because for the second year in a row, they decided that tethering consoles to women was a good idea. There are so many wrong things at play with a phrase like, "Our consoles are tethered to women so that you male gamers can enjoy." There are ways around booth babes, obviously. Good Old Games did VERY WELL WITH THIS last year at PAX: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLgkW91l6fg

Regardless, I expect a lot of people to flame feminism and feminists like they always do so go right ahead. :)

You seem a little slow. This is a very small percentage of the gaming community here, one in which a majority probably understand feminism better than you and could not give a shit about this because it's all semantics. If you want someone to vent at then go bust down every PR managers' home and free the beast. Lastly, their isn't really much to fix, objecting women has been a thing since the beginning of recorded history, it won't change on the fly. Furthermore, you can't fix something when it isn't broken, it's just people in skimpy clothing, get over it. It's not even menial enough to be described as a first world problem. If you want to argue for objectification of women then go rally people where it is a legitimate problem.

I dont understand why you think one group of random people would understand Feminism better then a single other random person.

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No complaints from me....hot women wearing little clothing make any event better....

Anyone mentioning anything about "objectifying women" needs to wake up. Why do you think you know better then the people choosing to take part in it. Let me know how forcing your moral opinion on people works out for ya...

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@Allison said:

GAMERS DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF FEMINISM. NEWS AT THE TOP OF THE HOUR, EVERY HOUR, 'TIL THE END OF TIME.

Yes great there are men who are objectified by women. Hooray this is neither the topic at hand and also completely dismissing the issue of women being objectified. 9 times out of 10 you will see a woman in advertising because guess what? Men make more money on average than women. This means that they are the dominant consumer audience. Which means that the majority of advertising is going to cater towards those white, straight middle to upper class men.

This is how a problem begins. The answer to fixing it is not to ignore or dismiss it, but figure out from here, where you can find solutions. "Booth babes" ARE a problem for the gaming community, and not just women. This very article even admits that they were put off of Nintendo's booth because for the second year in a row, they decided that tethering consoles to women was a good idea. There are so many wrong things at play with a phrase like, "Our consoles are tethered to women so that you male gamers can enjoy." There are ways around booth babes, obviously. Good Old Games did VERY WELL WITH THIS last year at PAX: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLgkW91l6fg

Regardless, I expect a lot of people to flame feminism and feminists like they always do so go right ahead. :)

It interesting to see that this post brought you to post again. I agree with most of what you said. Although there are plenty of reasons why woman dont get paid the same as men, but thats a different topic for a different thread.

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Every time I see booth babe galleries I always, without fail, think of this...

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@Allison said:

GAMERS DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF FEMINISM. NEWS AT THE TOP OF THE HOUR, EVERY HOUR, 'TIL THE END OF TIME.

Yes great there are men who are objectified by women. Hooray this is neither the topic at hand and also completely dismissing the issue of women being objectified. 9 times out of 10 you will see a woman in advertising because guess what? Men make more money on average than women. This means that they are the dominant consumer audience. Which means that the majority of advertising is going to cater towards those white, straight middle to upper class men.

This is how a problem begins. The answer to fixing it is not to ignore or dismiss it, but figure out from here, where you can find solutions. "Booth babes" ARE a problem for the gaming community, and not just women. This very article even admits that they were put off of Nintendo's booth because for the second year in a row, they decided that tethering consoles to women was a good idea. There are so many wrong things at play with a phrase like, "Our consoles are tethered to women so that you male gamers can enjoy." There are ways around booth babes, obviously. Good Old Games did VERY WELL WITH THIS last year at PAX: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLgkW91l6fg

Regardless, I expect a lot of people to flame feminism and feminists like they always do so go right ahead. :)

You seem a little slow. This is a very small percentage of the gaming community here, one in which a majority probably understand feminism better than you and could not give a shit about this because it's all semantics. If you want someone to vent at then go bust down every PR managers' home and free the beast. Lastly, their isn't really much to fix, objecting women has been a thing since the beginning of recorded history, it won't change on the fly. Furthermore, you can't fix something when it isn't broken, it's just people in skimpy clothing, get over it. It's not even menial enough to be described as a first world problem. If you want to argue for objectification of women then go rally people where it is a legitimate problem.

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GAMERS DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF FEMINISM. NEWS AT THE TOP OF THE HOUR, EVERY HOUR, 'TIL THE END OF TIME.

Yes great there are men who are objectified by women. Hooray this is neither the topic at hand and also completely dismissing the issue of women being objectified. 9 times out of 10 you will see a woman in advertising because guess what? Men make more money on average than women. This means that they are the dominant consumer audience. Which means that the majority of advertising is going to cater towards those white, straight middle to upper class men.

This is how a problem begins. The answer to fixing it is not to ignore or dismiss it, but figure out from here, where you can find solutions. "Booth babes" ARE a problem for the gaming community, and not just women. This very article even admits that they were put off of Nintendo's booth because for the second year in a row, they decided that tethering consoles to women was a good idea. There are so many wrong things at play with a phrase like, "Our consoles are tethered to women so that you male gamers can enjoy." There are ways around booth babes, obviously. Good Old Games did VERY WELL WITH THIS last year at PAX: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLgkW91l6fg

Regardless, I expect a lot of people to flame feminism and feminists like they always do so go right ahead. :)

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@JonahFalcon said:

Two words: sex sells.

Always has, since time immortal til now til the future.

Three words: no it doesn't. Sex sells one thing: sex. If you use sex to advertise something other than sex, people will remember the beautiful models frolicking about, but they'll actually have a hard time remembering your product.

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Ship all women to Mars, problem solved. New problem, where all da womens at? -_-

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@dillonj9889 said:

@Sharpless:

"The issue is nuanced and, goddamn, gamers are shit at recognizing and understanding nuance."

Well said.

It has been "nuanced" for twenty years now. It's odd to see it suddenly used as cheap click-bait in Summer 2012.

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No it doesn't.

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@OllyOxenFree said:

I vote to have this article removed.
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Two words: sex sells.

Always has, since time immortal til now til the future.

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I vote to have this article removed.

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the booth babes need to be performing public sex scenes

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Not this crap again.

Patrick, have you EVER visited any OTHER major industry conventions?

They're just like E3. Seriously.

You know what happened for two years when they decided to tone down E3? No one cared anymore. There was no mainstream media. There was no excitement.

ESA learned the hard way that you need the pizzazz, the glamour, the over-the-top, to get attention.

And I don't know how long you've been attending E3, but I remember the early 2000's when it was loud and crazy and every model in LA was hired for it.

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needs to grow up and the those ladies need to avoid carbs.

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boohoo

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booth babe (also known as a "woman")

Nice.

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@benjaebe: Why is that that big of a difference? It's fine if they are knowledgeable, but they're just doing a job. If you could go up to them and play 20 questions about whatever game they are boothing for, does that make them more valuable to you as women? I wish I could get paid to look the way I do, but sadly, "chubby, balding game nerd" isn't burning up the "attractiveness" charts. That's fine, I'm cool with that, so is my girlfriend.

Also, they are there to attract your attention and they do just that. Look at all the attention they are getting from people who weren't even at E3.

@Karmann said:

I see nothing wrong with sex, and nothing wrong with "booth babes" other than the name maybe, should they also have male booth babes for the sake of equality, yeah they should, but if they don't it's only because they're catering to their target audience. People need to stop being so god damned easily offended. First world problems.

I also agree with this.

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I agree, its absolutely disgusting in my opinion. I mean, we're not even talking about hiring women to smile and hand out pamphlets on the latest video game (booth), we're talking about dressing them skimpily so that Gamers go there to check out there assets. Quite honestly it has always disgusted me, glad to see I'm not the only one. I'm sad to call myself a Gamer, when to the outside world the way they see us is as people who are quite obviously influenced by something a superficial as this.

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@CaptStickybeard said:

@Vinny_Says said:

@DexterKid said:

@EthanielRain said:

@CaptStickybeard said:

@sixpin said:

What I don't need is other men telling me how I should feel about sex appeal in advertising. I come to Giant Bomb for entertainment and news about entertainment, not to be given one sanctimonious platitude after another. Frankly it is pretty off putting from a site that once made me laugh about Peter Molyneux's balls and Cards Against Humanity.

This.

Amen.

I was under the impression that they hired Patrick to get news about video games, guess I was wrong.

This is hardly about video games.

Soon enough this will become Patrick's tumblr blog, telling us all about what life is. Wise words from a guy who looks like he's 15 years old; a man who's seen it all.

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Essentially, they need to class things up. If the outfit looks like underwear or stripper clothes, don't allow it.

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Did I accidentally stumble on to Kotaku by mistake? I thought this kind of politically correct mewling was more appropriate for the Gawker family of sites. When did we become a community of such puritan sissies?

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Ship all women to Mars, problem solved. New problem, where all da womens at? -_-

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comes off as a car show to me.

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@brotherstereo: Articles here often have many comments and a big discussion, I strongly doubt your theory.
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This thread is a great example of why there are booth babes to begin with. Look at how many comments have been posted for this article compared to any other article posted on this site with in the last month. Do you think it's because everyone has insightful views on this topic? Nope. It's because the barrier of entry was the posted picture of the lovely ladies featured in the top most pick. That's why the majority of people clicked on this article to begin with. I'm going out on a limb here, but my guess is that if you had posted this exact same article but associated with a different title pic, not nearly as many people would have viewed it. I imagine it has the same affect at E3, it brings people to their booth, similar to how the title pic of this article consisting of those beautiful women with their small outfits and bright smiles brought people here.

Women are beautiful, they can embrace their physical beauty in whatever ways they want. If they want to wear small white shirts and tight red shorts they should be able to, it's up to the individual.

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@dillonj9889 said:

@Sharpless:

"The issue is nuanced and, goddamn, gamers are shit at recognizing and understanding nuance."

Well said.

This is why we cant have nice things.

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@Sharpless:

"The issue is nuanced and, goddamn, gamers are shit at recognizing and understanding nuance."

Well said.

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After reading the article and most of the comments, I learned that the two ways a gaming site can gain more hits is by either posting pictures of booth babes or posting an article chastising booth babes.

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Uh I can see a bit of a belly on one of those girls. Someone fucked up hiring that thing.

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man, people really defend their right to hoverhand. some of you guys are kinda creepy, just sayin

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@Sweep said:

@Anwar: Orly? Shit, fair enough. Sorry, other Patrick...

You're not the first to make that mistake in this thread.

I imagine is horribly confused right about now, if he's actually checking his PMs.

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@Anwar: Orly? Shit, fair enough. Sorry, other Patrick...

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E3 sucked ass this year.