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E3 Needs to Grow Up

Despite a growing call for change, the organizers of E3 have no plans to address the booth babe issue at the industry's biggest show.

I'm sure these women are well versed in the talking points for Namco Bandai's upcoming fighting game.
I'm sure these women are well versed in the talking points for Namco Bandai's upcoming fighting game.

There’s been no shortage of discussion about women and video games this past week.

The conversation’s been driven by the gross response to Anita Sarkeesian’s nearly finished Kickstarter about the unfortunate and exclusionary tropes of female video game characters, and the quickly scrutinized comments from a producer on Tomb Raider about a potential rape scene (a description the studio has walked back) in the new game.

These are all good, uncomfortable conversations to have, but if we're talking about the depiction of women in games at such a serious level, how do we still have E3 booth babes? Other than for easy hits in web galleries, anyway.

The commonly referred to booth babe (also known as a "woman") is hired solely to wear skimpy clothing with a game or company’s logo and take photographs with attendees (who does that, by the way?). Typically, they are not well versed in the product they are hired to represent.

It seemed like a good time to check in with the Entertainment Software Association, who manages E3.

Despite some of the recent heated conversation, there are no plans to shift E3 policies.

"Exhibitors determine for themselves what is the best representation for their companies. Models are welcome if companies would like to have them, but that's an individual exhibitor decision,” said ESA VP of media relations and event management Dan Hewitt in an emailed statement to me yesterday.

Ghost Recon Commander designer Brenda Brathwaite sparked a vocal debate on Twitter over booth babes before she headed to the E3 show floor last Thursday.

“I dread heading off to work at E3 today,” she said. “The show is a constant assault on the female self esteem no matter which direction I look. I am in good shape, yet it is impossible not to compare. I feel uncomfortable. It is as if I walked into a strip club w/o intending to. These are the policies of @e3expo and @RichatESA. I feel uncomfortable in an industry I helped found.”

Her comments found plenty of support, such as Inside Network managing editor AJ Glasser.

@br The worst is when I get so good at seeing right through it that I forget they're actually women underneath the barely-there clothes.

— AJ Glasser (@Joygirl007) June 7, 2012

It’s not a new critique, but it was louder this year, and there seems to be a growing desire for change.

There was also the usual “what’s the big deal?” responses, including 3D Realms co-founder George Broussard.

@br I think you/others take it too seriously. It's not some academic event. It's a glitz show full of spectacle. #serious_business

— George Broussard (@georgeb3dr) June 7, 2012

It’s been a few years, but the ESA policy on booth babes has changed from E3's inception. The last major shift came in 2006, as new penalties, fines and policies were introduced regarding women featured in E3 exhibits.

"What's new in 2006 is an update and clarification of the enforcement policies; as we do from time to time, we have taken steps to ensure that exhibitors are familiar with the policy and how it will be enforced," said E3 show director Mary Dolaher to Reuters at the time.

A violation of the clothing policy would result in, at first, a warning, and then a $5,000 fine. Here’s what the handbook from 2006 said to exhibitors considering booth babes--er, sorry, live models:

"Material, including live models, conduct that is sexually explicit and/or sexually provocative, including but not limited to nudity, partial nudity and bathing suit bottoms, are prohibited on the show floor, all common areas, and at any access points to the show."

Hewitt told me there have been no changes to ESA policy since 2006.

Maybe there should be. Consider this anecdote that didn’t even take place on the show floor itself.

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This was one of the first results the search term "Devil May Cry strippers" gave me, sorry.

We arrived to our Capcom appointment, I plunked down with Lost Planet 3, and Alex Navarro was ushered over to play Devil May Cry. In a room of kiosks, there were pole dancers. It’s unclear what that has to do with Devil May Cry. The girl hired to skimpily waltz around was sitting on the floor, looking bored. Everyone in the room is focused on playing the game, and Alex wasn't playing Devil May Cry in a see-through bubble. No one on the show floor could see this room. Can someone explain how this helps anyone do their job?

Elsewhere, I refused to play any 3DS games at Nintendo’s booth because the company didn’t have a table with machines, and instead tethered its lineup to attractive women. I let that gimmick slide when Nintendo pulled the same trick at the original 3DS unveiling, but I’ll just wait until those games are out now, thanks.

Nintendo probably thought it was a cute idea. I doubt (and this is my sincere hope) Nintendo meant to undermine the credibility of women at gaming’s biggest show. It's still ignorance. Many of the issues regarding women and E3 aren’t overtly offensive, and can be easily rationalized by those who don’t see a problem.

That’s okay--we should have a debate about it.

And this is all hardly an issue that’s exclusive to games. The same week as E3, the Computex Summit was happening in Taipei, and computer manufacturer ASUS sent out the following tweet:

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That tweet has since been deleted and ASUS released an apology, obviously.

I can gripe all I want, but the most effective solution has to come from the ESA itself. Only the ESA can enforce regulations on exhibitors, and let them know this archaic marketing tool needs to go away. If games are growing up, so does the way we go about advertising them in front of, ostensibly, a bunch of professional. This isn’t 1994.

PAX figured this out years ago, even if there have been incidents along the way (i.e. Lollipop Chainsaw at PAX East).

“Our definition of a ‘booth babe’ has been a model (male or female) that has been hired to stand/sit in skimpy clothing to market the product,” said Penny Arcade president of business development in 2010. “If that person knows the product inside and out then it’s less of an issue. A company representative that can interact with attendees in a way that provides value as opposed to ‘hey stare at my body’ is something that we encourage whether or not that representative is physically attractive or not.”

If E3 is supposed to represent the industry’s best, why can’t it figure out how to respect its own attendees?

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There should be booth men, cool ass tough dudes who stand there as shining role models for the swarm of manbabies.

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E3 needs to grow up? E3 is not a person.

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I think it's great that E3 is providing work to a whole bunch of models every year. Models are people that make their living by being attractive, so they're doing exactly the thing they set out to do when they chose that career. Maybe someone should ask the booth babes themselves how they feel about this, before getting all up in arms about it.

As for that ASUS tweet - isn't it great to see a large corporation like that show some humanity? I can imagine the shitfit idiot people everywhere threw when they saw that and the poor fellow who decided to be humorous on that day, probably got fired or some shit.

As for the pole dancers... well, that seems a bit out of place. But again, if the girls are not upset or unwilling to do whatever weird hijinks the PR people put them up to, then who cares? I know I'm not more likely to buy a game or show interest in a product, because boobies - but if I get to see some boobies when I go and look at a game I'm interested in... I'm ok with that.

I'd much prefer a world where we could just relax and have fun instead of having to tiptoe around every fucking issue because people might get, heaven forbid, offended!

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The era of the sexless video game nerd is over since games are now mainstream. That being said I like scantly clad women.

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@dr_mantas said:

@Sharpless said:

Hey, I just looked up "doesn't fucking get it" in the dictionary, and I saw about 75% of the Giant Bomb community!

Good article, Patrick. This issue cannot be brought up and talked about enough in my opinion, though I wish most gamers (wait, should I change this to "men"?) weren't quite so thick-skulled. There's a difference between women presenting themselves in an attractive way and their being objectified. When companies (run by men, almost certainly) stick attractive women in skimpy clothes and put them alongside their products for no other purpose than to have them serve as eye candy, that's demeaning and disrespectful. They're playing to the lowest common denominator, and it's pitiful that the industry still panders to the CoD/Madden cocks (both literally and figuratively). It's like going to Cannes and seeing half-naked women presenting the next Harold and Kumar flick.

Oh, and fuck you, George Broussard.

Are these women slaves? Are they brainwashed? They are models working for money. I think you're being disrespectful by very negatively portraying the work that they do, as if it's somehow inappropriate and they are bad people for doing it...

How is it demeaning and disrespectful to notice that a person is attractive?

You're redirecting the blame, here. What a person chooses to do as a career is their business. I'm not here to debate that. No one is, I don't think. By focusing on that, you're avoiding the issue entirely; the issue being how the companies in this industry choose to represent themselves, their products and, by association, gamers and the industry itself, and also how these choices affect female gamers. There are also women who choose to take their clothes off on stage for a living, but that doesn't make it an acceptable thing to do at E3.

In fact, with all due respect, I don't think you actually give a damn about anyone disrespecting these women's chosen profession. I think you're doing what the vast majority of men are doing in this thread and trying to justify the things you like to see, without actually, genuinely thinking about the issues at play here. These discussions always immediately turn to that: People employing whatever high-handed stance will shut down the opposition the quickest and ensure that they don't have to face the reality that the way things are has to change, regardless of whether or not they actually believe said stance. It's like hiring an ideological bounty hunter to win your discussion for you. Because, casual sexism is easy. Casual racism is easy.* Casual anything is easy. It's fucking casual. Change is hard. Acknowledging the need for change is somehow even harder. The issue is nuanced and, goddamn, gamers are shit at recognizing and understanding nuance.

In the words of MCA, I'm not trying to diss or bring static to you in particular, dr_mantas. Please don't take it personally. But, this thread is, essentially, full of dozens of people doing the exact same thing, just in different words. It's a bunch of men trying to evade any and all issues that threaten their enjoyment of something. Playing Call of Duty while Rome burns, if you will. It's ignorant, sad, and thoroughly disappointing. Also, not at all surprising.

* I'm obviously not saying any racism is at play here. I'm just using it to help illustrate the point I made in the following two sentences. Gamers, and Internet culture in general, lean heavily on casual sexism and racism. It's lazy. It's easy. It appeals to their genitals and to their senses of humor, respectively, such as they are. Why would they want to change? Changing would involve reevaluating their lives and their perceptions of the world around them, not to mention putting others before themselves. Who wants to do that, broski?

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Sorry to say, but I don't think it's the "booth babes and E3" that should grow up. "Babes" or not they're still people.

"OH IM SORRY YOU CANT BE HERE BECAUSE YOUR TOO PRETTY AND NO NOTHING ABOUT MY FUCKING HOBBY/JOB WAH WAH WAH"

Common really?

Ugh there seams to be too much pretentiousness going on lately on here.

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my question is, why do people really care?

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I like how this is still looked at by so many as not a big deal. The ignorance is sad.

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Those Tekken girls up top look pretty bad haha.

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I find great difficulty giving a crap about this. I would also find it difficult to give a crap if the Twilight convention has a bunch of men dressed like sexy vampires as eye candy for the ladies. Seriously, who cares? I couldn't give two craps if women are objectifying men at such a convention, so why should I care if there are people that willingly dress in sexy outfits to show themselves off at a trade show like e3? Some people need to lighten up. Make a crisis out of nothing.

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Does this really fucking matter? It's nothing new. Sex sells. Get off the soap box guys.

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To the people saying she should "grow up" or "learn to ignore it":

I half agree, there are things in this world which get to me, namely injustice and politics. I have learned to avoid them. But if a whole week of my job consisted of going to a convention were injustice and politics were used to sell Photoshop, or Illustrator, then I would probably complain too.

Also I don't see why she is getting so much flack for complaining about a problem in her industry. Perhaps Im complaining about half the conversation, and ignoring the other half, and that might be a little unfair.

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So tired of these bullshit articles everywhere. Do the girls actually get in your way, in front of the TV or something when you're checking out the games? So let them be, why does anyone care?

Actually, I really don't know when all the crap about everything in the games industry started. Be it booth babes, sexy assassins in your CG trailer, imply that a gang of bad guys would attempt to rape a cornered girl in a remote island, applaud a nice demo, everything you do is somehow fucked up to some people. It's like we have a hobby so sofisticated and intellectual that nothing but the highest form of expression and "art" is acceptable.

But maybe I see things this way because I'm from another culture, I don't know.

Also, that Ghost Recon designer needs some help.

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Do Car Shows need to grow up?

How about advertising in general?

What about Calvin Klein ads?

Women's Magazines?

Men's Magazines?

The Fashion industry?

Marketing things with sex is normal. It's not offensive.

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@Superfriend said:

Woah, wait a second. I think the Ghost Recon designer lady has got her feminism a little wrong here. She goes on about a "constant assault on the female self esteem no matter which direction I look. I am in good shape, yet it is impossible not to compare. I feel uncomfortable."

Well, you know- I see a lot of half naked dudes whenever I go to the beach. It doesn´t make me feel uncomfortable about my body though. I just don´t care. I just don´t feel the urge to compare myself to others all the damn time. If I would, then oh god, I would probably take issue with Calvin Klein ads, or movies starring fucking Clive Owen. But I don´t. Both of those are fine if you don´t turn em into a damn competition. Maybe it´s time to grow up a little for the people who do. Life ain´t a competition in every damn aspect.

If you come at it from the "oh god these people are more attractive than me" angle- I´m sorry, but I have no symphathies for you. If you think these booth babes are selling out and have no morals... well, you´re wrong, but at least you don´t have personal issues that you´re trying to force upon others.

You are the greatest person of the day. Once again, a non-issue has become an issue.

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well, I'm not going to anywhere where there's no boobs. What, just fat guys and video games, is that what E3 should be like? Booth babes are good for contrast. Besides, there is always (always!) a chance one of them will for for a daring smile and winning hair and fuck you in the bathroom.

also, what do pole dancers have to do with anything? WHO CARES? They're pole dancers, man. They're supposed to be on every corner doin their thing, in a perfect world. They make every show, every event so much better. If you don't believe me, ask the guys from Monster Magnet. They know what up.

I'm kinda thinkin you wrote this article because that's the trend right now, to be so sensitive and caring about oh how will the females feel. It will go away and you will have the chance to regain your manhood then. The thing is, these booth babes and pole dancers don't do nobody no harm. They're there for a reason, and that's obviously that sex sells. Sex sells video games. Think about it from a man's perspective - you get to your video game content anyway, what's wrong with looking at some ass while you wait? Caring about these women is being oversensitive. The show would be bleak and faceless without these chicks, and it's not like boobalicious bitches are going away from video games themselves, so just... relax, watch some good porn, get laid. After all, life is about getting the most pleasure out of it as you possibly can. The guys that go to events, why take this little visual pleasure away from them?

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@patrickklepek: What is it people in glass houses shouldn't do again? I don't disagree that things with in our society could always be better and we as individuals can be better people, but shaking your finger at E3 and not the games industry as a whole is a little unfair.

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Follow your own damn advice, Giant Bomb.

Vote with your money!

Or in this case with your presence or lack there of. Same goes for consumers, if you think Namco is making women all over the world feel like crap, then tell Namco this and stop buying their products until you hear, or see change. Don't be a lazy ass and expect officials to make the hard choices for you by banning something you are uncomfortable with. You have a choice.

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Oh, this again.

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I hate booth babes and think they're embarrassing, but this article is almost as bad.

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Sure it can make a man feel like he is being pandered to by those who run the show when he knows exactly why those women are there. But I am sure not all of the women mind 50 slovenly overweight men in N7 hoodies take pictures of them to masturbate to later. Well, maybe some do, but some no doubt don't mind the admiring of others. Besides, let's face it: Our entire society is geared toward sex. In the end, everyone just wants to fuck. I don't see the human race embracing a more cerebral point to life anytime in the future. Then again sex mostly is cerebral so maybe this is as far as we get.

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@Vinny_Says said:

@DexterKid said:

@EthanielRain said:

@CaptStickybeard said:

@sixpin said:

What I don't need is other men telling me how I should feel about sex appeal in advertising. I come to Giant Bomb for entertainment and news about entertainment, not to be given one sanctimonious platitude after another. Frankly it is pretty off putting from a site that once made me laugh about Peter Molyneux's balls and Cards Against Humanity.

This.

Amen.

I was under the impression that they hired Patrick to get news about video games, guess I was wrong.

This is hardly about video games.

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Yeah, I bet all you dudes totally wouldn't be uncomfortable with sweaty booth beefcakes walking around jamming their products in your face.

Women deserve eye candy too. Also, I'm not uncomfortable with it.

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Ugh... why did I keep reading past the article, into the comments?

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I see nothing wrong with sex, and nothing wrong with "booth babes" other than the name maybe, should they also have male booth babes for the sake of equality, yeah they should, but if they don't it's only because they're catering to their target audience. People need to stop being so god damned easily offended. First world problems.

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Many women, like my wife for example, don't feel comfortable in strip clubs or places where strippers and maxim models "work it" for cash by standing sexily by stuff they know nothing about. I wouldn't take my wife to e3 because of this. I WOULD take her to PAX. If this industry is serious about being woman friendly then e3 should adopt the same standards as PAX. To all those saying they don't care, great. If you don't care let's be more sensitive and have better standards. To all those that do care, cross the street and go to the strip club - you'll see most of the same women and you won't have to worry about pinky holders like me and educated women getting in the way.

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@shodan2020 said:

Hey man, attractive women need to eat too! It obviously doesn't bother the companies that hire these booth babes, nor the ladies themselves. You could also just not attend E3 if it bothers you that much. There is always PAX... oh wait, aren't there sometimes scantily/suggestively clad cos-players there? Should we also tell them to "grow up" and put some clothes on?

The difference being that PAX requires that "booth babes" actually be knowledgeable in the product that they're advertising.

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@Rawson: I swear, Jonathan Holmes is the most obnoxious, unfunny gaming "journalist" I have ever had the misfortune of discovering.

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The industry as a whole will take time to grow up when games can be at an appreciable level than just man-children who erupt in applause during a God of War: Origins live stage demo. I'm surprised at a lot of the responses that articles like this, as well as Warren Spector who says that video game ultraviolence needs to be toned down. These arguments are right, but it'll take a long time before anything like that could happen. I design games myself. A lot of my friends and family don't want to take me seriously because of games like God of War and Call of Duty where they chalk it up to being over-the-top just for the sake of it or children who happen to learn words like "Fuck!" and "Shit!" due to negligent parenting.

Can we have attention given to a triple-A game without having it being a gritty war shooter? It's like the Quake 1 development community only muddled around the same design architecture and told their friends that the Art Institute really is a way to make it big in their life. (Then they get stuck making CG commercials for insurance and heart-medicine, I'm sure that was part of their big plan.)

Really now, there's many places this argument can go to, but it's been made clear by some people that they like it just the way it is. No one was really threatening to destroy video games, merely just asking for variety. Some of us like to share our hobby with those who are too intimidated by this industry because of the state that it's in right now.

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Hey man, attractive women need to eat too! It obviously doesn't bother the companies that hire these booth babes, nor the ladies themselves. You could also just not attend E3 if it bothers you that much. There is always PAX... oh wait, aren't there sometimes scantily/suggestively clad cos-players there? Should we also tell them to "grow up" and put some clothes on?

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Ugly women are upset because of beautiful women are standing around looking beautiful. Cue the crying and feminist hobbajobba.

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@Jumper: Oh, god. It's the Hasselhoff Recursion!

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Woah, wait a second. I think the Ghost Recon designer lady has got her feminism a little wrong here. She goes on about a "constant assault on the female self esteem no matter which direction I look. I am in good shape, yet it is impossible not to compare. I feel uncomfortable."

Well, you know- I see a lot of half naked dudes whenever I go to the beach. It doesn´t make me feel uncomfortable about my body though. I just don´t care. I just don´t feel the urge to compare myself to others all the damn time. If I would, then oh god, I would probably take issue with Calvin Klein ads, or movies starring fucking Clive Owen. But I don´t. Both of those are fine if you don´t turn em into a damn competition. Maybe it´s time to grow up a little for the people who do. Life ain´t a competition in every damn aspect.

If you come at it from the "oh god these people are more attractive than me" angle- I´m sorry, but I have no symphathies for you. If you think these booth babes are selling out and have no morals... well, you´re wrong, but at least you don´t have personal issues that you´re trying to force upon others.

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The Hoff as a booth Duder (and don't click on the pic or you will be hypnotized)

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Brigning back the booth Duders for consideration (and just cuz I can).

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The hypocrisy here makes me want to cry when there's a quicklook up for a game called Lollipop Chainsaw and an ad for Tomb Raider on this very page with an image of a women who looks like she's been beaten. At what level of blindness are you operating? In fact one could make a good argument that the caricatures of women that video games are filled with is far more backwards then the booth babes themselves. Booth babes are actual women but Lara Croft for example has always been a warped cartoon character and now her new "realistic" make over appears to be in the service of men who like to see women get hurt really badly. In short I'm pretty sure the entire world has come off the rails.

This site covers videogames, more so the quicklook for Lollipop Chainsaw actually featured the excessive "sexy" nonsense in that game as a negative and there has been many a talk on the bombcast about the intentions behind Tombraider culminating in some of them saying very dramatically "Fuck this game!"

I'm all for getting some better female characters in games in fact let's all continue that discussion but it does not mean that we cannot still discuss the issue that this article talks about. Also this article seemed to transition into talking about the booth babes by stating that it seemed a bit ridiculous now that we are having these conversations about Tomb raider and such that we continue to see booth babes.

Personally my two cents are that if the mobile 3ds platforms (M3Ps) were given much more of an informational role in which they act more as presenters then M3Ps then it might be a bit less noticeable and distracting in it's immaturity. In addition I believe the car argument to be untenable due to the simple fact that cars, or more importantly those shows, appeal to a specific audience and are not a broad medium like vidya games. This is not to say that the concept of the booth babe is untenable in of itself, in my opinion all it takes is having them double as presenters of the product, knowing the product, and being able to go get a press kit for Vinny.

Also I'd like to thank for specifically opening up the article as a debate and not simply stating all of this as his rock god decree. I presume that's what this meant:

That’s okay--we should have a debate about it.

Lastly I'd like to thank the GiantBomb site for not posting pictures of themselves body slamming people whilst sporting neckbeards...

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There's nothing wrong with talking about this subject or expecting more from E3. I personally don't think there's anything wrong with the approach that Penny-Arcade and PAX took. It's a really good middle ground. If you're going to have spokespeople there, regardless of whether or not they were hired because they're pretty to look at, they should know about the product and know what they're talking about. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that the bored DMC stripper didn't really know, or care to know, about DMC at all.

Nothing about booth babes strikes me as particularly offensive, it's just lazy and stupid marketing. If PAX can do it better, I'm sure E3 could step up it's game.

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Clearly, getting rid of booth babes isn't the solution. Perhaps we should just make booth bros.

The amusing thing is that booth bros would only attract most women if they were dressed in a tailored suit and were showing the games themselves. A subservient half-naked man taking orders from someone else isn't considered sexy to most women. Men want pretty, women want strong.
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Well said Patrick.

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Or maybe gaming journalists should stop fighting against windmills? Maybe there's a connection between juvenile tactics used by companies, and the actual consumers? Gaming is not the most cerebral activity one can take part in, and it won't become one even if the vendors suddenly stopped hiring good looking women to prance around in their undies at E3. Playing games is juvenile, unproductive and a general waste of time. Games are not art, and gaming culture is a joke.

Stop making excuses and blaming E3, vendors, or marketing, and take responsibility of your own actions. This is disgusting.

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Clearly, getting rid of booth babes isn't the solution. Perhaps we should just make booth bros.

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When Patrick tells you to grow up, it's fucking time to grow up.

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@ck1nd said:

Eh? Is it really that big of a deal?

I agree, this is not that big of a deal. This type of stuff happens at all kinds of trade shows. Ever been to an Auto Show? You get women wearing hardly anything walking around a new Camaro or some concept car. Ever been to CES? Same thing, lots of attractive women standing around product they don't know anything about. I feel every year this conversation starts up about E3. Trade shows including E3 are about advertising. Advertisements have included sexy women (or trying to be sexy) for years and it will never stop. Have you watched TV lately? Commercials play the "sex card" 75% of the time.

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I'm not even sure if I want to play games anymore. The disgusting amount of whining over misogyny in the last few months by the gaming press makes it pretty clear that there's either nothing worth writing about actual games or most game journalists like to imagine themselves as chivalrous knights. The last of which is god-damn well misogynistic in its own right.

I have no other opinion on booth babes than that they are useless. They are there so that Keith Apicary would have someone to annoy in his videos, to collect the woos of hopelessly pathetic nerds or, as Patrick said, to get hits on online galleries. Yet this is not a fucking problem. Would these girls be doing anything better with their time? Would they not be objectified for men to ogle over? No, they would be doing the same exact thing at car and tech expos or even at a strip club. I'll go as far as to say that it might even be the most dignified job these girls might do. Not to detract from the utter uselessness of that occupation, but hell, I think you can understand what I'm saying.

Also that Anita Sarkeesian's kickstarter... She got over a $100k for doing what she was going to do anyway - play games and make videos about them from the standpoint of a blazing feminist. I'm going to say that anyone who gave her money past the $4k goal is dumb. She's going to pocket that and the rest of that money for a short video series that'll change nothing. Video games will still be made to appeal to the average video game player, not to feminists.

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The hypocrisy here makes me want to cry when there's a quicklook up for a game called Lollipop Chainsaw and an ad for Tomb Raider on this very page with an image of a women who looks like she's been beaten. At what level of blindness are you operating? In fact one could make a good argument that the caricatures of women that video games are filled with is far more backwards then the booth babes themselves. Booth babes are actual women but Lara Croft for example has always been a warped cartoon character and now her new "realistic" make over appears to be in the service of men who like to see women get hurt really badly. In short I'm pretty sure the entire world has come off the rails.

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Strippers and pole dancers are obviously way over the line, but I find it a little hard to sympathise with Brathwaite when her complaint is that she feels inadequate compared to models. That's just vanity. Perhaps the whole modelling profession should be abolished for to protect the self esteem of average-looking people everywhere... Edit: for fucks sake, she worked on Playboy The Mansion?!

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I couldn't agree more, no wonder people who don't play games can't take our industry seriously when you see things like this. The Asus tweet makes me extra sad because I just bought one of their laptops

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But tons of other things have hot skimpy girls. Racing, sports, they have them. It's the audience that acts like children that is the issue. When sports and racing fans beat you in maturity you're fucked.