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Giant Bomb x 8-4

We're already Japanese video game experts, but a few more couldn't hurt.

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You might have noticed a familiar sound at the beginning of this week’s 8-4 Play podcast, the sometimes bi-weekly podcast about Japanese games from the localization party joint known as 8-4.

We’re friends with those guys, and we love the 8-4 Play podcast.

Hell, I’ve been friends with and worked with John Ricciardi and Mark MacDonald since I was...14? Probably earlier than that, if I actually did the math. It all goes back to an IRC channel called #vidgames, which is where I originally met Brad, too. Time flies.

And the last time Giant Bomb went to Japan, Brad toured through 8-4’s office, remember?

Ever since I came on board at Giant Bomb, I’ve been scheming for a way to get those guys involved over here in a way that made sense for Giant Bomb, 8-4, and most importantly, our communities.

That finally happened last night, when the latest 8-4 Play revealed that we’ll be the new home for their podcast. The actual page will go live soon--stay tuned! Thing is, our tools don’t allow us to keep podcast pages secret, so we couldn’t really build anything until the news was out there. Eventually, after the site's rebuilt, we'll be hosting the podcast the moment it's finished being edited, but for the time being, it will go live on Giant Bomb a few hours after 8-4 pushes it live. If you're already an 8-4 Play listener, you won't have to change your current RSS feed--everything stays the same. Over the next few weeks, we'll be adding all of 8-4's back catalog of episodes onto the site, too.

Pretty soon, there will be a spot for 8-4 Play under the Bombcast on the podcasts tab. Nothing about the Bombcast is changing, and nothing about 8-4 Play is changing. This isn’t a merger, it’s just a partnership, which may lead to other cool things later. Who knows? I mean, imagine the trouble we could get up to with 8-4 if we made it back to Japan.

This isn’t the start of some Giant Bomb podcast network, either. Making this move simply felt...right.

For now, take a deep breath. Giant Bomb will continue to have Quick Looks, reviews, and longwinded discussions about Japanese video games and Tetsuya Nomura. But if you’re looking for a little bit more, especially if you’re a fan of that thing Japan calls Monster Hunter, well, 8-4’s got your back. Please give these guys a warm welcome!

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I swear i was thinking how cool it would be if giantbomb was the new home when 8-4 announced they would be going somewhere else. This is fantastic because i was worried i might stop listening when it stops showing up on 1up.

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I've never listened to any other podcast but GB's but I'm excited to get into another one.

Also.....

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@Duffyside said:

@Sergio said:

It's called professionalism.

No, the professional thing to do would have been "hey guys, we like your podcast and all, and wish you nothing but the best, but it just wouldn't make sense for us to host it on our site."

Objectivity is professionalism.

They might as well not review any games from Harmonix, 38 Studios, Double Fine or any number of studios where they have very good friends. I've yet to see their close friendship with Johny V garner any review scores that were better than they deserved.

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@Duffyside said:

@Brendan said:

@Duffyside said:

@Sergio said:

It's called professionalism.

No, the professional thing to do would have been "hey guys, we like your podcast and all, and wish you nothing but the best, but it just wouldn't make sense for us to host it on our site."

If you don't trust the Giantbomb crew's journalistic integrity then you are wasting your time here.

That seems like a really smart way to run a website, especially concerning new users.

"Hey guys, I'm new here and I'm really enjoying the site's sense of humor and content! But, I did have one question; why does Giant Bomb host the 8-4 podcast? Aren't they, like, in the dev-"

"If you don't trust Giant Bomb and everyone who works there then you should just leave right now!"

You are way too fucking paranoid about this shit.

There's a difference between hosting "Building the Bastion" and hosting the 8-4 podcast. The former is a video series documenting the development of a game for promotional purposes. It's all about Bastion. The team has a personal stake and a professional one in it.

The 8-4 podcast is just a podcast that the 8-4 team does on the side to talk about videogames and their opinions, they need a new place to host their podcast is all. It is not an advertisement for the games that they localized, even if they occasionally say "hey check out the game we worked on." And even if GB did review/quick look a game that 8-4 worked on, they'd more likely shit on it for being a bad game and not cause it is localized poorly. And I stress the word "localized." It's not 8-4's own game, it's not their personal videogame concepts being developed like Bastion, so there's no need to tiptoe around when it comes to games they've worked on. 8-4 play podcast is not like the Irrational Games podcast. They rarely talk about their own games or go in depth about their process localizing games. It is essentially the bombcast, except about Japanese games. Giant Bomb dudes would be more uncomfortable criticizing Double Fine games than 8-4 games. And again, the only games that GB has even bothered to cover of 8-4's long gameography is Shadows of the Damned and Monster Hunter Tri. And the reason for that isn't because they are afraid of burning bridges, it's because they generally just don't care for Japanese games.

Stop thinking about how other people will enjoy the site and think about how you will enjoy the site. Do you honestly think this destroys their credibility? Surely you've been on Giant Bomb long enough to trust them. Don't rely on "new member's perspective" to back up your argument. Giant bomb weighed the pros and cons and felt confident that this will only benefit both sides. Don't do their job for them.

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listened to one of their podcasts. It was alright had no humor to it which is what i like when i listen to podcasts but it was still decent.

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@Sergio said:

@Duffyside said:

@Sergio said:

It's called professionalism.

No, the professional thing to do would have been "hey guys, we like your podcast and all, and wish you nothing but the best, but it just wouldn't make sense for us to host it on our site."

Objectivity is professionalism.

They might as well not review any games from Harmonix, 38 Studios, Double Fine or any number of studios where they have very good friends. I've yet to see their close friendship with Johny V garner any review scores that were better than they deserved.

I don't think people actually look at the facts really. Tron was made by probably one of there closest if not most talked about friends and they took a shit all over tron:evolution on the podcasts.

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Looking forward to it!

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I already like 8-4, so this is cool, not to mention it a new perspective. So are they actually PART of giantbomb now or are they just hosted here or what?

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@Coafi said:

We are turning japanese.

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Sounds neat, this should cover a hole in the coverage.

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@Johnny5: Not merging, just simply being hosted on the site, and as far as I know, it's just the podcast feed, no collaboration.

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Awesome my two favorite podcasts in the same place! This is excellent news!

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I wouldn't have a problem with a GB podcast network, as long as it meant the NDX would roll again. CHOO-CHOO

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Sounds great looking forward to future crossovers.

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I listened to the Vita podcast and there's this one dude that just has the mouth of a sailor. Kind of turned me off.

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my two favorite video game podcast together? oh what a wonderful day

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A game localization company based in Shibuya that will be forever remembered for its peerless work on Imagine: Make-up Artist and Petz Hamsterz Bunch.


 
OK, which one of you yuckleheads did this? lol
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Those guys seemed pretty cool, thanks for posting Patty.

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Omg I caaant waaaaait.

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This is the kind of merger I can totally get behind

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This is a little tangential, but that interview was pretty great.  I was very impressed when Brad made sure to focus a question directly to Hiroko when the other 2 dudes were kinda fielding everything.  After that, she seemed to be a lot more comfortable and vocal.  I always tend to notice those things.  Good job getting all the voices in there, Brad. 
 
PROFESSIONAL

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Good stuff. It always took me an extra click in my podcast reader to download their podcasts, an extra click that isn't necessary with the Bombcast. Hopefully this means their podcasts won't anymore. The ultimate great outcome would be for Mark to move for the Bombcast as 8-4 is always at it's best when he isn't on it imo.

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Sounds like a good idea.
 
More content is always good, and content from an area that Giantbomb doesn't tend to cover much is even better.

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Is it blasphemous that I am stationed in Okinawa, Japan but I have no interest in japanese games. I refuse to pay 300 to 400 Yen for a new PS3 just to play games that I do not understand. Plus the idol dating games such as the AKB48 are just really creepy.

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@Ricansoldier23 said:

Is it blasphemous that I am stationed in Okinawa, Japan but I have no interest in japanese games. I refuse to pay 300 to 400 Yen for a new PS3 just to play games that I do not understand. Plus the idol dating games such as the AKB48 are just really creepy.

I'd say it's more blasphemous that you can get a PS3 for that price and still refuse to buy them!

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I like 8-4 and listen to it, even though I tend not to play a lot of JRPGs. However, I can only offer a tepid response to this news, because the rest of me is preoccupied with wondering if this is the new direction CBS is going to aim in for GiantBomb. If GiantBomb is going to have 587,000 different things going on -- all of it poorly organized and maintained -- because quantity is more important than quality on some bean-counter's two-year GB business plan. (This isn't something that can be assured by a line at the end of an article or a verbal reassurance on a podcast -- it's an assurance of intention and direction that only the actions and time will show us).

I hope that is absolutely not the case. I hope this is just a really fantastic addition that was done out of the purist of motives and instigated solely by the desire of the GiantBomb editorial staff to include them here. You'll just have to forgive me if the part of me that has been through how consultants and bean-counters and middle-managers futz good things up enough times to raise one highly suspicious eyebrow to any such news.

Don't take my comments as any slight toward the editorial staff either on 8-4 or GB. I like everyone involved and it'd be cool if GiantBomb expanded a little more here and a little more there. I am just concerned whether this is a "business decision" or if this will be part of an attempt by the GB staff to very cautiously and wisely increase their content by the inclusion of more curated content. That's the problem with a lot of other sites. They go the "throw everything at the wall and see what gets hits" route, instead of carefully curating their content so that everything is valuable and everything is interesting.

Oh -- and I can't wait to hear Cheapy D on the next CAGcast whine about how jealous he is. :D

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@ShakeItBaby said:

This is the kind of merger I can totally get behind

Not so much a merger as probably a mutual expectation that hosting 8-4 here would get 8-4 a larger audience and, with almost no investment on the part of GS/GB/CBS, give GiantBomb a slightly more expanded offering and breadth of coverage. It's not like we're going to see articles and reviews and editorials popping up here from the 8-4 cast.

Although, that would be kind of cool, if they did. I'm not averse to more Japaense game content. I just know so little about it, being a PC-gamer for almost my entire life to the exclusion of consoles until just the last few years.

As long as this didn't portend some sort of attempt to "cover all bases", which wasn't what we came to GB for in the first place. That is, don't make the next move be homing some dude-bro Madden/Sports game podcast here so CBS can feel GB has "put something out there for the sports audience". Blech.

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I've never listened to their podcast, but I will give it a shot!

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Anyone else notice Marks T-shirt...

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Sure, I'll give it a shot, why not? I don't really care for japanese games at all, but I appreciate a different perspective.

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This is great. I’ve only starting listening to 8-4 about 3 months ago in a hunt for more video game talk but was suckered into subscribing immediately. Welcome to GiantBomb 8-4 and keep up the fantastic localizations and show.

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Excellent! Now I can be in love with Hiroko on my fav website.

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Nice, now I can get two podcasts I listen to from the same site, yay for making life easier.

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gona have guest appearances on each podcast?

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Welcome 8-4 guys. By the way, Anime is for jerks.

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@Branthog said:

@ShakeItBaby said:

This is the kind of merger I can totally get behind

Not so much a merger as probably a mutual expectation that hosting 8-4 here would get 8-4 a larger audience and, with almost no investment on the part of GS/GB/CBS, give GiantBomb a slightly more expanded offering and breadth of coverage. It's not like we're going to see articles and reviews and editorials popping up here from the 8-4 cast.

Although, that would be kind of cool, if they did. I'm not averse to more Japaense game content. I just know so little about it, being a PC-gamer for almost my entire life to the exclusion of consoles until just the last few years.

As long as this didn't portend some sort of attempt to "cover all bases", which wasn't what we came to GB for in the first place. That is, don't make the next move be homing some dude-bro Madden/Sports game podcast here so CBS can feel GB has "put something out there for the sports audience". Blech.

What makes you think they won't do that next? They will and idiotic defenders like you will continue to think nothing has changed. Just like Jefferson said "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants." I believe so too should Giantbomb. We should as a community seriously think about kidnapping and seriously mutilating the Giantbomb crew lest they forget that we the people rule.

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@DesertDog said:

@Branthog said:

@ShakeItBaby said:

This is the kind of merger I can totally get behind

Not so much a merger as probably a mutual expectation that hosting 8-4 here would get 8-4 a larger audience and, with almost no investment on the part of GS/GB/CBS, give GiantBomb a slightly more expanded offering and breadth of coverage. It's not like we're going to see articles and reviews and editorials popping up here from the 8-4 cast.

Although, that would be kind of cool, if they did. I'm not averse to more Japaense game content. I just know so little about it, being a PC-gamer for almost my entire life to the exclusion of consoles until just the last few years.

As long as this didn't portend some sort of attempt to "cover all bases", which wasn't what we came to GB for in the first place. That is, don't make the next move be homing some dude-bro Madden/Sports game podcast here so CBS can feel GB has "put something out there for the sports audience". Blech.

What makes you think they won't do that next? They will and idiotic defenders like you will continue to think nothing has changed. Just like Jefferson said "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants." I believe so too should Giantbomb. We should as a community seriously think about kidnapping and seriously mutilating the Giantbomb crew lest they forget that we the people rule.

Never in history has a response been more measured.

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@bobafettjm said:

Nice, now I can get two podcasts I listen to from the same site, yay for making life easier.

Psst. RSS feeds will make you so happy.

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Clever title.

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@Superkenon: Video game websites are the most serious of businesses.

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Awesome.

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@mortface: Well I have a bunch of RRS feeds already, but for some reason I tend to just forget about it, however I come to Giant Bomb multiple times every day.

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8-4 play I salute you. Loved the podcast and I'm really exited about them being here.

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I've been an avid 8-4 play listener since the beginning. This is great news, as it means their podcast will now get more exposure and drive them to make better episodes (less episodes without Mark, please!). That said, I'll still be downloading it through their website, as I have been since 2010.

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I was impressed with their translation of Nier, so I'll be checking out their podcast.

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The fact that every new addition to Giantbomb has a disclaimer at the end making sure everyone understands this isn't a world breaking event says tons about the members of this site. Of their passion and their hatred to all things outside the bubble.

I've never listened to the 8-4 Podcast but listening to it today and I like what I hear. I'm glad I've been exposed to it.