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Mass Effect 3 Wii U Includes Extended Cut DLC, But...

...EA isn't sure if players will have the option to view the original endings.

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(There are no spoilers in this post, but beware the comments.)

When Mass Effect 3 arrives on Wii U, the recent Extended Cut downloadable content will be on the disc, too.

"The extended ending is basically going to be part of the game instead," said series producer Michael Gamble to Siliconera this week. "You won’t have to download it."

The Extended Cut downloadable content tweaked and expanded Mass Effect 3’s multiple endings, finales that came under criticism from fans for not providing enough answers and closure. After the downloadable content is acquired by the player, the endings are seamlessly altered, as if these were the original endings BioWare came up with. We know that’s not the truth, though, but will every Wii U owner?

I asked Electronic Arts if Mass Effect 3 players on Wii U will have the option to see both versions of the ending. In essence, giving the the option to turn back the clock and see the original conclusion designed for Mass Effect 3.

The publisher said it “can’t confirm if that choice will be available,” but hopefully we can sway it.

One hopes EA and BioWare include the option, even if the Extended Cut endings are the default. The changes to Mass Effect 3’s final hours are hardly on the level of Greedo shooting first, but as we’ve seen in film (remember E.T.’s walkie talkies?), revisionism is a slippery slope. Mass Effect 3 isn't a heralded classic enshrined in years of acclaim, and players deserve to know how BioWare decided to close out its trilogy before fans demanded more.

Whether you agreed with BioWare's decision to expand on the endings (hint: I didn't), this option is important.

I’ll make sure to keep my eye on this, and report back when EA has an answer.

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@Shinjitsu said:

@Landon: People that buy a Wii U?

People are going to buy a brand new console then immediately buy a game that not only is the 3rd in a trilogy, but has been out on three other platforms for months?

I'm sure there are some Mass Effect fans that are crazy and buy at least one copy for every platform it's on.
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@Shinjitsu said:

@Landon: People that buy a Wii U?

People are going to buy a brand new console then immediately buy a game that not only is the 3rd in a trilogy, but has been out on three other platforms for months?

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@MordeaniisChaos said:

This is a stupid thing to take a stand on.

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@SmokePants said:

@IliyaMoroumetz said:

The endings are still bad on an objective and creative level. You don't end a story as big as Mass Effect with a fricken Deus Ex Machina ten minutes before the end.

That's bad storytelling!

This is not Deus Ex Machina. They built the Crucible throughout the entire game and the delivery of the Crucible is what allows Shepard to make the choice. The Catalyst serves as little more than a guide and observer, similar to Vigil from ME1. They could have taken him out, but then you wouldn't know what the fuck was happening. Even still, you could have stumbled your way into stopping the Reapers. NOT DEM.

So it's a deus ex machina where you spend the entire game building the machina.

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@IliyaMoroumetz said:

The endings are still bad on an objective and creative level. You don't end a story as big as Mass Effect with a fricken Deus Ex Machina ten minutes before the end.

That's bad storytelling!

This is not Deus Ex Machina. They built the Crucible throughout the entire game and the delivery of the Crucible is what allows Shepard to make the choice. The Catalyst serves as little more than a guide and observer, similar to Vigil from ME1. They could have taken him out, but then you wouldn't know what the fuck was happening. Even still, you could have stumbled your way into stopping the Reapers. NOT DEM.

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Edited By Video_Game_King

No original endings? But that's my entire reason for wanting the Wii U version (and the Wii U, really) in the first place.

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Edited By Enigma777

Eh. The extended cut was much better IMO, and if you really want to see the originals you can always go to YouTube.

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Edited By Mento

The default Shepard in Mass Effect 3 was a goddamned idiot. Even if you don't pick "numerous" for crew deaths during the generation process, many major characters are still dead (jncluding Wrex) and most of the rest of ME2's cast didn't get their loyalty quests done, which means they're toast in ME3. You miss so much going into the game with that hamstrung set-up.

I'd honestly work on that improving that aspect than ensuring that players see the awful original endings, which were still just the new endings with less scenes to explain them, since anyone buying this for the Wii U will be gypped without save files to carry over. But then this is the Wii U version, so they might as well change all the Reapers to Bloopers for all I care. If I buy a Wii U it'll be for the exclusives, as usual.

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@Landon: People that buy a Wii U?

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"No, Wii U user, you won't be able to see the extremely shitty "endings" to ME3. Instead, you'll have to suffer the relatively less shitty "extended endings".

EA doesn't even know what to keep on being evil anymore.

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Honestly, endings aside, who the hell is going to buy Mass Effect 3 on the Wii U?

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I preferred the original endings. The new ones are exposition hell for people with the brain size of mollusks.

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My biggest issue with ME3's ending wasn't the way it ended, it was the way you chose the ending.

As for the WiiU version not getting the "original" versions, I don't see why someone would care. Later releases of a game (be it on a different system or a "gold" release) often have patches included. Especially in this day and age when you have youtube.

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Edited By IliyaMoroumetz

The endings are still bad on an objective and creative level. You don't end a story as big as Mass Effect with a fricken Deus Ex Machina ten minutes before the end.

That's bad storytelling!

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@truckington said:

The entire controversy was completely overblown. Books and movie get their endings changed and edited all the time, even after release. Other games have already had their endings altered by post-release patches before this. It really wasn't the "AMG TEH END OF VIDJA GAEM ART" that people make it out to be. Such a huge fuss over such a insignificant event.

No. This never happened before ever. This copy of Fallout 3 I'm holding doesn't exist. Or this copy of Portal. God, if they added on to the ending of Portal it would've ruined the whole experience for everyone forever.

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Giant Bomb's articles about the ME3 ending are all dumb.

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Why is this still a big deal?

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lol

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While i like most of Patrick's articles, I can't ever really understand the ones about ME3. They all seem heavily rooted in Patrick's opinion of the situation which has never seemed very informed (even it it might be). So I don't understand the slant of all these ME3 articles and I think they just piggyback on the "entitled video gamer" coverage that this game first got. Its a shame. I mean, I don't know (personally, not "some guy in this thread") anybody who, after seeing the extended cut said "The first ones were better". I think that's because the first ones were exactly the same. You just ended up where you were going in 30 minutes instead of 5 and it feels like you got a better chance to say goodbye to a world that sucked up a hundred hours of your time instead of feeling like someone tore off your arm and ran out of the room.

I think this is totally a non issue and I guess I wonder where the question came from. Is this something Patrick just wanted to know based on his feelings regarding the revision or are people ACTUALLY asking this?

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@MordeaniisChaos: Could not agree more.

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I respectfully disagree with Mr. Klepek's Op Ed here. Pistols at dawn, sir!

I've seen the original ending and post-credits coda on Youtube, and can safely say it is not a pristine artistic vision in need of preservation. It's a sloppy rush job, that may or may not be improved by post-launch additions. If Bioware/EA declare that the Extended Cut endings are the "real" endings for future players, that is totally valid.

If future generations are curious about the original, extra-crappy ending to ME3, they can still view it on the internet, where nothing is forgotten. Whatever your feelings about game authorship, the original authors of Mass Effect 3 "patched" their story. This version is the story now.

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This is a stupid thing to take a stand on.

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Man the Internet made me so sick of mass effect to the point that I never want to see anything mass effect again. I agree with Patrick though an option to see the original intended endings should be present.

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@Spaceyoghurt said:

Lovely. Can't understand why anyone would care about this anymore. Haven't played the extended cut, don't intend to either. Nothing can't fix those 15 last minutes.

I am one of the few who actually enjoyed the original ending.

Haven't played the new cut as well and i don't intend to because i was fine with the ending.

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Lovely. Can't understand why anyone would care about this anymore. Haven't played the extended cut, don't intend to either. Nothing can't fix those 15 last minutes.

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Why would you even want to see the original endings?

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Patrick should stop filing his opinions as news.

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@ck1nd said:

Honestly, you would have to have a huge stick up your ass to care about this anymore.

No, that fucking ship sailed in April. If you still care about ME3 endings you've got to be sitting pretty on a Saint Row style dildo bat.

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WON'T ANYONE THINK OF THE ARTISTIC INTEGRITY?

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The existence of this game, as many have pointed out, is strange. Who in their right mind would pick this game up on the WiiU? Also, this makes me wonder how much work it took/is taking for EA to port it to the WiiU, and makes me question whether they actually see it as a sound investment, or if Nintendo is offering them some great incentive to port it over so they can say "Hey, look, we have third party support!" If they really wanted to claim massive third party support, they'd get EA to sell a bundle that has all three games included.

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Oh those poor artists who had their beautiful vision ruined by the Extended Cut. Will anyone think of them?

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The Extended Cut endings are measurably and quantifiably better, but I agree with the sentiment - preserving the original, regardless of the intent behind those original shitty endings, is absolutely necessary.

Optional Director's Cuts and Extended Editions are one thing, total artistic revisionism is another.

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@damswedon: So suddenly people like the original cut more? I don't understand the internet. I fully supported the original cut, but everyone else cried and moaned. Now that they have the extended cut, people are going and saying I hope they leave the original in... What?

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I don't think anyone who saw the original endings and got the extended cut endings would complain about ever seeing the original again.

The only thing you'd hear in the extended cut discussion was, "Why wasn't this in the original game?" No one wants the old endings over the new ones.

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Honestly, you would have to have a huge stick up your ass to care about this anymore.

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I don't understand why this should even be a controversy. The original endings are still present within the extended cut, and besides being much less clear about what exactly you just chose (for those who prefer to construct their own version of the events) there isn't anything in the original that would redeem the fact that it failed to provide even adequate context for players to fully understand why they should have any kind of affinity for one ending over another.

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It's basically the same. Not sure if you can skip the ending cutscene, but if you can, then it can be stopped at the point where the epilogue begins. For the rest I suppose you can close your eyes, cover your ears and ask a friend to nudge you when it's ok to start watching again.

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I don't really care about Mass Effect any more. I have seen the original endings and I was happy with them. I'm pretty much done with third person games in general now too. They all have their problems and the cover system is so damn boring.

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@iAmJohn said:

I'm sure this matters to the five people who have been waiting to play Mass Effect 3 on the Wii U.

That number seems a bit high. Are they all Nintendo executives?

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Who in the right mind would buy the third game (supposedly not playing the first two because they weren't available on the wii) with non of the back story. It was bad enough for PS3 owners to go without one game, let alone two.

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Why is this even a question? Who would want the original endings? It doesn't repair all of the nonsensicalness of the ending, but it's unambiguously better. If the extended cut was the original ending, then there still would have been some grousing, but not nearly to the same degree of it being entirely unsatisfactory.

Beyond that, the extended cut changes parts from the original ending to the degree that it's bad for Bioware to have the original ending out there leading up to the inevitable sequels.

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Hey anyone who hasn't played this game yet and is waiting for the Wii U release. There's this thing called youtube that has them all.

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the original ending is just the first min of dlc so ....if the wii u players are blined mabe they will have problems lol.

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3-1/2 people will actually play this SKU, so it really doesn't matter.

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@rmack
It sounds like such a petty thing, but it really does annoy me that Bioware compromised on its artistic integrity by changing the ending even slightly as opposed to saying "The end is the third part in the trilogy, not the last ten minutes where the net effect of your actions in the world affects the progress you can make in a single cutscene." I'm apparently also a crazy person for enjoying ME3 whole cloth, minus the part where they changed my character.

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The entire controversy was completely overblown. Books and movie get their endings changed and edited all the time, even after release. Other games have already had their endings altered by post-release patches before this. It really wasn't the "AMG TEH END OF VIDJA GAEM ART" that people make it out to be. Such a huge fuss over such a insignificant event.

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Isn't the more important question about if people will be able to choose what choices were from the first two games, and not just go with the default ones? Unless they already confirmed that, and I just didn't see.

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@Evercaptor said:

Bioware will cave under the pressure of cake-fattened fans used to concurrent having and eating states yet again and will in fact remove the extended cut ending via a further DLC exclusive to WiiU.

...ow

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I want to meet this mythical gamer who is buying a WiiU to play Mass Effect. Seriously. Does ANYONE care about this? If your into the new hot 3rd party titles you most likely would have bought a console that plays them or played on PC.

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Valve changed the original ending to Portal. Where's the righteous indignation?

I'd actually like an explanation of why Patrick feels the need to have a worse version of the game released? Is it because you don't like Mass Effect (or popular games in general) and would prefer to have a worse version out there? You're not arguing for 'choice' or 'preservation', otherwise you would object to a WiiU port entirely (especially if it adds anything like touchscreen menus or ability switching).