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Maybe We Should Start Issuing More Press Releases

UK's Official Nintendo Magazine really wants you to read its next issue.

 Collect 'em all?
 Collect 'em all?
You know, this might only be funny to people who write about games for a living. Or maybe I'm just being a dick. I can't really tell anymore. Either way, Future issued a press release this morning to let us all know about the next issue of Official Nintendo Magazine. The UK book is running its Super Mario Galaxy 2 review in the next issue, and apparently someone's pretty stoked about that. Stoked enough to use "latest Miyamoto masterpiece gets six limited edition covers and massive ten-page review" as the sub-head.

Here's one bit that I found particularly hilarious.

Ahead of Super Mario Galaxy 2 hitting UK stores on Friday 11th June, from Wednesday 12th May Official Nintendo Magazine offers gamers six limited edition covers and a set of exclusive badges, as well as the only review that matters. With a spectacular ten-page review, Official Nintendo Magazine has the definitive verdict on the latest and greatest Mario game.

OK... you've already called it the "latest Miyamoto masterpiece" and you're devoting SIX covers to the game. Are you really going to sit there with a straight face and claim that your official review is "the only review that matters?" You've already tipped your hand! Why would anyone read one page of that review, let alone 10?

Hey guys, do you think Official Nintendo Magazine likes that Super Mario Galaxy 2 game? Call me crazy, but I bet it'll review pretty well.

Personally, I'd love to see them put together six separate covers, call it "Miyamoto's latest masterpiece," and then give it a 60 or something. Of course, that'd be unfair to the game, which appears to be at least somewhat awesome, but a guy can dream, right?

"Hooray, the latest Mario masterpiece is here, collect all six covers and read our 10-pager, and then at the end see that we've given it a 6/10 because it's somewhat middling! The only review that matters!"

I won't even get into how absurd the idea of devoting 10 pages to a review is. Of course, if I was running a magazine devoted to Nintendo's platforms, I'd probably do the same thing. Heck, for a release this monumental, they might as well just devote the entire book to it this month. And next month.

The release closes with a quote from the magazine's editor, Neil Long.

“Super Mario Galaxy 2 is a very special game and to celebrate that we’ve done something very special with this issue. The top notch packaging and different magazine covers reflect the breathtaking quality and diversity within Miyamoto’s latest masterpiece. Combined with several other new projects we’re working on at the moment, it’s an exciting time to be at Official Nintendo Magazine.”

I sympathize with Mr. Long here, as this whole press release seems like something an editorial staff would have nothing to do with. He probably just picked his head up off of his desk one morning to see some excitable marketing person standing there, ranting about multiple covers and getting quotes approved for a press release. Sensing a pounding hangover coming on, he probably said "sure, sure, whatever you need to write, go ahead" and went back to sitting in the darkness. At least, that's how it always happened to me. Next thing I knew, photos of me with soda logos where my eyes should be were circulating around the office as part of some crazy sales pitch, and I decided to start paying more attention in meetings.

OK, so, let's reflect on what we've learned about the next Mario game:

  • It's the "latest Miyamoto masterpiece."
  • It's big enough to warrant 10 pages of review coverage.
  • It's eventful enough to warrant six different covers, one of which is exclusive to subscribers.
  • It contains "breathtaking quality and diversity."
  • The Official Nintendo Magazine review is the "only review that matters."

Be sure to keep all that in mind when all of the other completely useless, unofficial, and non-exclusive reviews start hitting closer to the game's May 23 street date.
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@xobballox said:
" You people be treatin' the internet like it's muh'fuckin' rap beef! "
TOO HUMAN MOTHA FUCKA!!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
In stores now.
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I'm honestly going to buy all 6 at the convenience store nearby, walk across the street to the children's hospital, and leave them on the waiting room table. Bought out of spite, but put to good use.

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if i saw a shelf loaded with magazines with 6 different covers, all the same brand and all published in the same month, that proclaimed a 10 page review of a single game, then i would think the sight ridiculous.  i'm not surprised jeff wrote this article, either, but then again, i actually pay attention to how the staff here discusses things.  almost every single (vocal) person that works at GB can be hyper-critical, especially when it comes to anything they feel is a compromise of journalistic integrity.  i read sites like GB and PA (penny arcade) because of this approach to gaming news and reviews.

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  I would like to chip in here and say only this; maybe Jeff is trying to again highlight what we all know.

Magazines are losing so much ground to the Internet and are now so desperate to sell copies that they have effectively become marketing tools for the Games publishers/developers.

We have all heard of and indeed seen reviews in magazines that were 'questionable' and with 'Official' magazines being the worst culprits.  

Given his past history in this field I think Jeff is exceptionally qualified to point out crass favouritism and even out-right corruption in games journalism.

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Oh so is it a crime to write a 10 page review? It's not like it hasn't been done before by *shock* OTHER magazines. It to me speaks out as they have played it carefully soaking in every little thing to bring the most detailed review they can to people. This is an opinion, that's ok but not only does it try to discredit other opinions but it also hasn't got the details to be critical. You haven't read the review but you've jumped to conclusions that it is biased in every way shape and form of the word, I have and while it is rated highly they justify their score of it and give both good points and constructive criticism. This website is supposed to be an un-biased multi-platform website but to me it seems quite the oppisite. I see hardly any Nintendo content and any of it is usually greeted with cynicism and raised eyebrows. This comment most likely won't be published because the website obviously don't like other opinions but I'm just saying, maybe taking a more dignified and professional approach and waiting until you have read te review and reviewed the game first rather than trying to drag through the dirt, a review that you haven't actually read and a game that hasn't yet been reviewed by you. Yes, everyone is entitled to an opinion and I like Microsoft's X-box 360 but it shouldn't be at the price of making a mockery of a very enlightening, entertaining, humourous magazine that takes the opinion of it's loyal readers and forum members seriously. Well that's my opinion.    I'm sorry but through the somewhat childish review, you have made yourselves look bad not ONM.
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The only practical purpose of a magazine now is reading about something you've already seen on the internet, but in more depth. If the Official Nintendo Magazine didn't squeeze every last drop out of the first direct sequel to a Mario game for god knows how long, which happened to be one of the most highly rated games of all time, then I would feel sorely disappointed. 

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@unclekevo   well said.  i buy these magazines and there reviews are pretty spot on.  if nintendo make a bad game they would say.

" Oh so is it a crime to write a 10 page review? It's not like it hasn't been done before by *shock* OTHER magazines. It to me speaks out as they have played it carefully soaking in every little thing to bring the most detailed review they can to people. This is an opinion, that's ok but not only does it try to discredit other opinions but it also hasn't got the details to be critical. You haven't read the review but you've jumped to conclusions that it is biased in every way shape and form of the word, I have and while it is rated highly they justify their score of it and give both good points and constructive criticism. This website is supposed to be an un-biased multi-platform website but to me it seems quite the oppisite. I see hardly any Nintendo content and any of it is usually greeted with cynicism and raised eyebrows. This comment most likely won't be published because the website obviously don't like other opinions but I'm just saying, maybe taking a more dignified and professional approach and waiting until you have read te review and reviewed the game first rather than trying to drag through the dirt, a review that you haven't actually read and a game that hasn't yet been reviewed by you. Yes, everyone is entitled to an opinion and I like Microsoft's X-box 360 but it shouldn't be at the price of making a mockery of a very enlightening, entertaining, humourous magazine that takes the opinion of it's loyal readers and forum members seriously. Well that's my opinion.    I'm sorry but through the somewhat childish review, you have made yourselves look bad not ONM. "


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@unclekevo said:
" Oh so is it a crime to write a 10 page review? It's not like it hasn't been done before by *shock* OTHER magazines.  
Can you give a specific example?
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@oldschool:  Yeah, I think I agree with you actually. His article was malicious to the extent that it revels in the plight of  print gaming journalism, when internet sites such as this one have already practically killed them. What it highlights is the extremes that such publications have to go to remain competitive, and if what the review writer says is true, this attack was very misguided indeed. In principle, I tend to be cynical about games journalism, not because of the people involved, but because of the unsavoury business side and lack of accepted critical standards (and lack of interest in them). There's no way in knowing if the magazine's layout was pre-determined before the review was written, so yeah, it serves no purpose but give ammunition to an unsavoury anti-Wii camp.
I was wrong.  
@Linkyshinks: I agree. It would be if people were dicks for no reason, like the Nier review on Joystiq that was never completed and defaulted in giving the game a 0. I have no problem with games or games journalists being judged harshly from the standpoint of genuine criticism. I think that would tend to favour games with artistic and/or aesthetic merit instead of the opposite, the purely mechanical approach to reviewing that gives technically polished but otherwise boring and vacuous games inflated scores.
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@owl_of_minerva:
 
 
I think it's important we direct criticisms in the right direction in the right manner, a print magazine that writes primarily for kids, as well as adults (-very Nintendo like) doing all that they can to survive in a very harsh climate is not worthy of such  typical official = bias claims from a fellow journalist. Nor does the, well educated writer of the review deserve to have his work rubbished before it's even been read by Jeff. 
 
It's an editors role to make sure issues fly off teh shelves by whatever means, - multiple covers and tired well used slogans like  -"The Only Review Worth Reading!" are age old ways of doing this. 
 
It's a writers role to create solid and fair reviews and pass them onto his editor so that he can perform the spin based on the reviews content. The PR from Future Publishing editor was based on what he read in Chris's review for the game. He would not be hailing the game as Miyamoto's Masterpiece if Chris had given it a review score in the 8's. 
 
Jeff was being a dick. 
 
I personally love print, hell, if there was a magazine that could cater to all my need.s I wouldn't spend half the time I do currently on videogame websites. I adore the print format, I could elaborate in detail exactly why, but I'm hungry now :) 

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@Linkyshinks:  Yeah, that's what I was saying in reply to oldschool, more or less. He should never have written the article, or at least he chose a 'soft target' when there are much worse ways of violating journalistic ethics. The most charitable interpretation of the article would be that he was pointing out that they were telegraphing they thought the game was amazing, therefore giving the reader no reason to buy the magazine, but the way it was written is too easily taken up as accusations of bias, corruption, etc. 
Personally I think the decline of print is tragic too, although as I'm no longer young I find it hard to justify purchasing them now (especially as they are 10 dollars or more in Australia).
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[quote]
OK... you've already called it the "latest Miyamoto masterpiece" and you're devoting SIX covers to the game. Are you really going to sit there with a straight face and claim that your official review is "the only review that matters?" You've already tipped your hand! Why would anyone read one page of that review, let alone 10?
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Yeah a 10 page review is way too long but  I would guess it's 9 pages of images. Also people read reviews of games that they have already played just for entertainment.

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Ok, so I recently bought myself a black wii (which have been out for an age in the uk) since it was on a 25% off price deal in a supermarket. 
 
This was in part to play Virtual Console games with my daughter, but mainly so I can get my hands on Silent Hill Shattered Memories. 
 
Anyway, after a few days I found myself asking myself something that I've asked myself a lot over the last couple of years: 
 
How do you take Nintendo seriously in this day and age? 
 
So by way of answering this, I downloaded a "sample Ninty podcast", which happened to be from the UK Nintendo Magazine team. What I heard on that show was a few guys stuck the room who covered their material with a detatched irony that just underlined my sus[icions that even people "inside" Nintendo struggle with the modern concept of Nintendo. 
 
The podcast is here: 
 
http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/podcast/onm_podcast.xml 
 
Listen to 5 mins of one and you'll see what I mean - I think it was about the 3rd one I listened to in case it, they do discuss Galaxy 2 in that one anyway having had some advance play time on sample levels of the game.
 
I think the marketing team speculatioin was on the money, but I reckon it's just the the editorial team has hit the point where they don't care any more (or just have to toe the line)
 
I want to play this game (and still need to catch up on Galaxy 1 anyway), but one the whole Nintendo still seems like it's just waiting to implode. 
 
Maybe it's just that I'm still bitter they anounced ANOTHER iteration of the DS about 3 three weeks after I upgraded to a DSi XL. Robdogs! 
 
Oh, and word of warning for anyone about to buy a black wii in the us; that thing attracts dust like brad pitt attracts flap. Just be aware what you're getting into.
 
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Holy shit.
 
So much staff-fellatio going on here.

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Oh, man. How did I miss this shit storm of a comments section? Nintendo fanboys going absolutely fucking nuts and even one of editors of the magazine getting in on it?
 
Sorry I missed this one, guys. Hilarious stuff all around.

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@mutha3 said:
" Holy shit.  So much staff-fellatio going on here. "
 
Welcome to Giant Bomb.
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the fuck have y'all been doing in here

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@Pictoben said:
Maybe it's just that I'm still bitter they anounced ANOTHER iteration of the DS about 3 three weeks after I upgraded to a DSi XL. Robdogs!
The 3DS? That's the "DS2," not a new model of the old DS.
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@Linkyshinks said:
" @mutha3 said:
" Holy shit.  So much staff-fellatio going on here. "
 Welcome to Giant Bomb. "
Yeah man, where ya been?   Staff fanboys are awesome like that  :/
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Yo, this thread...

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@oldschool said:
" @Linkyshinks said:
" @mutha3 said:
" Holy shit.  So much staff-fellatio going on here. "
 Welcome to Giant Bomb. "
Yeah man, where ya been?   Staff fanboys are awesome like that  :/ "
Yeah, yeah I know. I've been lurking this site for a looooooooooooong time.
 
But THIS level of  wankery is unlike anything I've seen so far on this site.
 
271 comments
 
of a pretty embarrassing article
 
and over  90% of the comments are ''LOLJEFFILUVU ''
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Well then, I look forward to a 10/10 from them. Hurray for bias!

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@mutha3 said:
" @oldschool said:
" @Linkyshinks said:
" @mutha3 said:
" Holy shit.  So much staff-fellatio going on here. "
 Welcome to Giant Bomb. "
Yeah man, where ya been?   Staff fanboys are awesome like that  :/ "
Yeah, yeah I know. I've been lurking this site for a looooooooooooong time.  But THIS level of  wankery is unlike anything I've seen so far on this site.  271 comments  of a pretty embarrassing article  and over  90% of the comments are ''LOLJEFFILUVU '' "
In all fairness, I do actually LOLJEFFILUVU.
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OMFG! What kind of  queers actually like the staff of a website that they choose to frequent. You dick holes need to learn how to hate the ones you choose to be around otherwise what the fuck are you doing? seriously?  
  
But for realz yall obviously a games site where a major selling point is the personalities of the Staff is going to have a lot of fans that like them and will agree with what they are saying and defend them to a  ravenous degree... and what is so wrong with that? You don't know it's blind obedience because you don't know everything about everyone, and furthermore why post on a forum you clearly think is completely skewed to your opposite opinion? You guys must get off on being the minority elite dick-bags.  Agree or disagree with them whatever. Just don't act like you are soooooo fucking cool because you don't like people who like people who they like... pretty clear what I'm saying right?  :D 

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@DanP said:
" OMFG! What kind of  queers actually like the staff of a website that they choose to frequent. You dick holes need to learn how to hate the ones you choose to be around otherwise what the fuck are you doing? seriously?    But for realz yall obviously a games site where a major selling point is the personalities of the Staff is going to have a lot of fans that like them and will agree with what they are saying and defend them to a  ravenous degree... and what is so wrong with that? You don't know it's blind obedience because you don't know everything about everyone, and furthermore why post on a forum you clearly think is completely skewed to your opposite opinion? You guys must get off on being the minority elite dick-bags.  Agree or disagree with them whatever. Just don't act like you are soooooo fucking cool because you don't like people who like people who they like... pretty clear what I'm saying right?  :D  "
I think you presuppose to much.  Those of us are not talking in isolation, but rather in the broader context of continual unnatural staff loving, by some of the biggest toads a forum has seen.  These are the types that can't see the rational perspective from being blinded by the inside of Jeff's (and others) anus.  This doesn't include everyone who has ever agreed with Jeff, but rather, those that continually cry out for staff attention by recommitting their undying love at every opportunity, never once considering the possibility that they may be wrong.   
 
Hell, I have agreed with the staff on many occasions, but like most normal members, I back up agreement with sensible dialogue.  You only have one post, so it is unclear which camp you reside in.
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I'm not reading a full 14 pages but is it just the Nintendo alliance that are the ones who don't think Jeff has a point here? Some things never change.

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@HandsomeDead said:
" I'm not reading a full 14 pages but is it just the Nintendo alliance that are the ones who don't think Jeff has a point here? Some things never change. "
Just because you are too lazy to read the truth, let me fill you, so bend over whilst you read  :/ 
 
  • No-one is defending Nintendo at all.   
  • Jeff wrote a fucktard and juvenile article criticising another magazine, once again showing himself to be a juvenile git.
  • The writer from that magazine come and explained his methods. 
  • Many morons came in and gave Jeff a blowjob for his work. 
  • Others came in and criticised the Jeff lovers. 
  • Others came in to criticise those who criticised the Jeff lovers. 
  • And now we are were you finally showed up to "copy/paste" the usual stuff we have come to expect from you. 
 
So, there you go, I saved you from even considering reading 14 pages.  No need to thank me  :/ 
 
I think we should lock this thread now, for one it was pointless anyway, but now Handsome Dead has arrived with his view, what is there left to say?
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@oldschool: When he first thing I see is you complaining that no one is defending Nintendo, I knew I was going to get some noble Nintendo white knight. Jeff wrote an article criticising something that should be critiqued and, sure, dickheads jumped on top of it but you are doing absolutely no better with your cry baby posting. If you weren't so willing to bend over for The Big N at every opportunity, you'd see that.
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How could a Mario game possibly warrant a ten page review? Nine and a half pages worth of pictures, and one half page review? 
 
Review: Peach gets kidnapped, Mario goes to space, and runs on planets all while wearing different themed suits, and tries to rescue Peach, who will not reward his effort in anyway.

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@HandsomeDead said:
" @oldschool: When he first thing I see is you complaining that no one is defending Nintendo, I knew I was going to get some noble Nintendo white knight. Jeff wrote an article criticising something that should be critiqued and, sure, dickheads jumped on top of it but you are doing absolutely no better with your cry baby posting. If you weren't so willing to bend over for The Big N at every opportunity, you'd see that. "
I am just happy with you bending over in front of me thanks  :-) 
 
Jeff was just being a complete dickhead with this and Nintendo is irrelevant.  If you bothered to read stuff here you would know that it has been stated it would be exactly the same moron article if it had have been any other magazine and any other game or game company.  You can't see the forest for the trees, sadly.  I have simply responded to the Jeff fondlers, especially those who responded to me.  Apparently that is how the internet works.  Anything marvellous insights you want to regale us with?
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@oldschool: How was he being a dick? This kinda stuff needs to happen more. 
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@Wes899 said:
" @oldschool: How was he being a dick? This kinda stuff needs to happen more.  "
Geez man, just read what I wrote. 
 
Just for you - criticising in a childish and churlish manner a press release for a magazine is completely stupid, hell, it's retarded.  It is a press release and Captain Bleeding Obvious called to say that press releases are self serving and every man and his dog knows that.  For someone who has elevated himself so high to crawl around in the gutter and write such insipid nonsense only says more about Jeff that the magazine he attacked, which by the way, I don't read. 
 
I look forward to Jeff criticising every movie that comes out now, you know the ones, the ones that tell how great they are and shouldn't be missed - all of them.  The only explanation for Jeff's retarded thread was that someone stole his doughnuts or something.   The whole thing was utterly unprofessional, and worthy of only the worst thread trolls on this site.
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Hey guiz wuts goin on in this thread?
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@oldschool said:

" I look forward to Jeff criticising every movie that comes out now, you know the ones, the ones that tell how great they are and shouldn't be missed - all of them.  The only explanation for Jeff's retarded thread was that someone stole his doughnuts or something.   The whole thing was utterly unprofessional, and worthy of only the worst thread trolls on this site. "

What the hell are you talking about? There is a huge difference between a press release issued by a movie company and a press release issued by a magazine that is supposed to be seen as a credible, reliable source of unbiased information. The only childish thing here is the fact that you feel the need to continually post on this article for the past 3 days. Get over it.
 
God, you Nintendo fanboys will freak out about anything.
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It's probably a marketing move by Nintendo. But I guess that goes without saying.

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@Milkman said:

" @oldschool said:

" I look forward to Jeff criticising every movie that comes out now, you know the ones, the ones that tell how great they are and shouldn't be missed - all of them.  The only explanation for Jeff's retarded thread was that someone stole his doughnuts or something.   The whole thing was utterly unprofessional, and worthy of only the worst thread trolls on this site. "
What the hell are you talking about? There is a difference between complaining about a press release issued by a movie company and a press release issued by a magazine that is suppose to be seen as a credible, reliable source of unbiased information.   God, you Nintendo fanboys will freak out about anything. "
 
From another astute member of the forum:  

To wrap up, the article is poor because (1) ONM is financially independent of Nintendo (2) the editor Chris clarified instances where they've given negative reviews of first-party games (3) there's no evidence that the magazine's layout was determined before the review was written, or that they were going to give it an awesome review no matter what (4) the excessiveness of the magazine's release has nothing to do with Nintendo, and it's a ploy to try to sell more copy, which is valid given how much magazines are struggling and (5) in light of 1-4, the article is unprofessional and undignified. 


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Damn. This thread is complete madness. 
 
Also, the internets iz serizious buzinesz. 

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@Milkman said:

" @oldschool said:

" I look forward to Jeff criticising every movie that comes out now, you know the ones, the ones that tell how great they are and shouldn't be missed - all of them.  The only explanation for Jeff's retarded thread was that someone stole his doughnuts or something.   The whole thing was utterly unprofessional, and worthy of only the worst thread trolls on this site. "

What the hell are you talking about? There is a huge difference between a press release issued by a movie company and a press release issued by a magazine that is supposed to be seen as a credible, reliable source of unbiased information. The only childish thing here is the fact that you feel the need to continually post on this article for the past 3 days. Get over it.  God, you Nintendo fanboys will freak out about anything. "
God you ignorant Jeff fanboys freak out about nothing. 
 
What is required to get through to yours and other completley thick heads,  

THIS HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH NINTENDO  

 are you ignorant or plain stupid? 
 
The only childish thing going on here is that idiots like you continually come and make inaccurate and stupid comments about it being about Nintendo, requiring continuous correction.  Oh, and for the love of Spongebob, who said a magazine that is about Nintendo is going to be unbiased?  Of course it is.  Just like XBox magazines are biased about Xbox, and PS3 magazines are biased about Sony and PC magazines are biased about PC - dear lord you people are as stupid as Jeff's article. 
 
One more time, this isn't about Nintendo.  This is about the most pathetic article ever written by Jeff (and that is saying a lot), pointing out, oooh wait for it, that a press release for a magazine is full of hyperbole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Holy shit - you don't say. 
 
Up until this point I have been temperate about this.  Sure, it is a stupid article by a writer lacking any decent journalistic skills, so in essence, I don't really care.  I made my point, but no, the reason it keeps going is because of the rather nauseating defence of Jeff.   
 

God, the Jeff Defence Squad is clearly the worst bunch of fanboys the internet has spawned.    

 
Get over it, Jeff writes shit and you lap it up.
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@oldschool: Jeff likes to post about stuff he thinks is dumb or mildly funny. Thought you would have received the memo on that by now. Arguing with his followers about the meaning behind his topics or the fact that he shouldn't be posting this kind of stuff as front page news is silly though. It's videogame journalism for goodness sake, don't see why it has to be taken so goddamn seriously. Think he knows full well the consequences which could occur from posting stuff like this, but he speaks his mind anyway regardless of whether it's a good idea or not. You going to get riled up every time he posts something like this, or are you going to walk away and ignore it like you should?
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@oldschool:  Hey man, I don't mean this in any kind of insulting way at all, I'm just curious, but if you don't like the staff, and it looks like you don't really like the community that much either, well then, why are you here?
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@Kowbrainz said:
" @oldschool: Jeff likes to post about stuff he thinks is dumb or mildly funny. Thought you would have received the memo on that by now. Arguing with his followers about the meaning behind his topics or the fact that he shouldn't be posting this kind of stuff as front page news is silly though. It's videogame journalism for goodness sake, don't see why it has to be taken so goddamn seriously. Think he knows full well the consequences which could occur from posting stuff like this, but he speaks his mind anyway regardless of whether it's a good idea or not. You going to get riled up every time he posts something like this, or are you going to walk away and ignore it like you should? "
Actually, I am not taking the articles so seriously at all.  The problem is that when you voice a dissenting view on Giantbomb about the worth of Jeff's "skills" as a journalist, you get crashed by the Jeff Defence Squad, who happen to be the most rabid bunch of supporters you will likely find.  I find it quite comfortable to give such idiots a reply.  It really is the minority though.  However, they subscribe to the George W. Bush school of, "you're either with is, or agin us" and "love Jeff or get out" type parochialism. 
 
Believe it not, I am not riled up.  I posted what I know, and adding some colour to it all is just for the fun.  I am not the fired up type.
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@ArchScabby said:
" @oldschool:  Hey man, I don't mean this in any kind of insulting way at all, I'm just curious, but if you don't like the staff, and it looks like you don't really like the community that much either, well then, why are you here? "
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@oldschool: well, okay. Just seemed like a better idea to let the topic die to me. If you like baiting idiots out for a dumb reply, cool. But it almost seems like that's... oh I dunno, trolling or something.  
 
Can say it's getting a bit tiring seeing this topic at the top of the forums but if you've still yet to have your fill of fun I'll leave you go. :/
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@ArchScabby said:
" @oldschool:  Hey man, I don't mean this in any kind of insulting way at all, I'm just curious, but if you don't like the staff, and it looks like you don't really like the community that much either, well then, why are you here? "
Actually Arch, I do like the community.  A lot.  It is a great community.  Like all communities, there are those you like and those you don't.  Life really.  There is barely a well known member here I don't like, you included.  Thing is, I usually take it subject on a case by case basis, and don't take previous threads disagreements into others.  Hell, I have agreed directly with Handsome Dead on more than a few occasions, and he hates me.   
 
I don't need the news from here, the internet is full of news to read, and I completely don't care what they do or don't cover.  I have supported the staff against "fanboy" attacks from others in the past, as I don't believe they are.  They do what they like and why shouldn't they.  I do have views on how the site could be better, but hey, don't we all.  That still doesn't preclude me or anyone else from calling "shenanigans" when the staff write a crap article - free speech and all. 
 
Hope that answers your question.
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@oldschool: Holy shit, you're still beating this dead horse with a stick? It's got to be little more than a gross pile of gel by now. 
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@oldschool said:
" @ArchScabby said:
" @oldschool:  Hey man, I don't mean this in any kind of insulting way at all, I'm just curious, but if you don't like the staff, and it looks like you don't really like the community that much either, well then, why are you here? "
Actually Arch, I do like the community.  A lot.  It is a great community.  Like all communities, there are those you like and those you don't.  Life really.  There is barely a well known member here I don't like, you included.  Thing is, I usually take it subject on a case by case basis, and don't take previous threads disagreements into others.  Hell, I have agreed directly with Handsome Dead on more than a few occasions, and he hates me.    I don't need the news from here, the internet is full of news to read, and I completely don't care what they do or don't cover.  I have supported the staff against "fanboy" attacks from others in the past, as I don't believe they are.  They do what they like and why shouldn't they.  I do have views on how the site could be better, but hey, don't we all.  That still doesn't preclude me or anyone else from calling "shenanigans" when the staff write a crap article - free speech and all.  Hope that answers your question. "
That's cool.  This thread is just really freaking me out.
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@Kowbrainz said:
" @oldschool: well, okay. Just seemed like a better idea to let the topic die to me. If you like baiting idiots out for a dumb reply, cool. But it almost seems like that's... oh I dunno, trolling or something.   Can say it's getting a bit tiring seeing this topic at the top of the forums but if you've still yet to have your fill of fun I'll leave you go. :/ "
Hey, it takes two to make a conversation and I am one of many who keeps replying.  It isn't trolling in the slightest as it is replying to direct commentary. 
 
@Symphony said:
" @oldschool: Holy shit, you're still beating this dead horse with a stick? It's got to be little more than a gross pile of gel by now.  "
People keep making the same statements, so I just reply.
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@oldschool said:
" @Symphony said:
" @oldschool: Holy shit, you're still beating this dead horse with a stick? It's got to be little more than a gross pile of gel by now.  "
People keep making the same statements, so I just reply. "
And this is exactly why you should leave that poor mangled horse alone.
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@Symphony said:
" @oldschool said:
" @Symphony said:
" @oldschool: Holy shit, you're still beating this dead horse with a stick? It's got to be little more than a gross pile of gel by now.  "
People keep making the same statements, so I just reply. "
And this is exactly why you should leave that poor mangled horse alone. "
This thread, being the article itself does have a dead horse smell about it, so it is apt.  I was done ages ago, but when someone quotes me and either attacks me or asks a question, it normally requires a response.  Perhaps if Jeff didn't write such a stupid article, we wouldn't still be talking about it?  But yeah, unless I get questioned again, I am done and was done at about page 5.
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@Wes899 said:
" @oldschool: How was he being a dick? This kinda stuff needs to happen more.  "
How so?  The stuff you're referring to does not need to happen.  Press is a mixture of marketing and peer review.  Any 'official' magazine in the history of any market is usually more of a marketing product than a peer review platform.  People who are confused on this issue are actually kind of stupid and people who complain about this issue are just tilting at windmills, Jeff included.  Jeff has bespoke experience and so should know better.  There's no way to separate marketing from publishing.  No way at all.  If you think this site doesn't have to pander to publishers and market research firms in any way than you'll be in for a rude awakening.  The only way any internet site remains clear of marketing influence is when no money changes hands and that isn't a reality for any site which wishes to stay afloat.