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So, Fez II

Some stuff happened over the weekend.

Fez II is no longer in active development, according to developer Polytron and its designer, Phil Fish. That’s the word from Fish, who dropped his mic this weekend.

“FEZ II is cancelled,” said Fish in a statement on Polytron’s website. "i am done.i take the money and i run. this is as much as i can stomach. this is isn’t the result of any one thing, but the end of a long, bloody campaign. you win.”

For the record, I don’t believe him, even though I’ve “confirmed” the news with Fish myself over email. I suspect we will, at some point, see (and play) the sequel to Fez, but this weekend’s events provide an opportunity for Fish to leave the spotlight and protect his sanity from the world and, well, himself. Fish speaks too passionately about games to leave them behind. That isn’t some subtle hint, either. It’s my gut feeling.

But how did we get here? It begins with the latest episode of Invisible Walls, a Game Trailers podcast, featuring a lengthy rant from Marcus Beer, a longtime member of the industry now commentating under the named “Annoyed Gamer.” The podcast was discussing the recent turn of events regarding Xbox One self-publishing, and how both Fish and Braid designer Jonathan Blow used Twitter to criticize the press for running towards both of them for quotes about what was, then, still a rumor coming from Game Informer about the news. A rumor with some legitimacy? Sure, and while it eventually proved true, Blow was upset reporters were asking for commentary without more information (for example, the revenue share ratio) and Fish lamented the press seeking a quote before everything was confirmed. Fish's divisive nature is easy traffic.

Cue Beer:

“But, of course, the press, wanting to get reactions, they went to a couple of indie developers. In this case, Jonathan Blow and Phil Fish, because those guys are the self-styled kings of the indie genre. They’ve been on Indie Game: The Movie, and they’ll turn up and quote for anything and everyone. And Ms. Fish and Blow, or BlowFish as I’m going to call the two them right, because while they may be moderately tasty, they’re also kind of lethal. [They] decided to go bananas and bitch and moan to Game Informer, in particular about “How dare you, how dare you ask us questions about this story! I’m sick of you guys wanting my opinion on this story!” Both of them, both bitching away. And I’ve just got a little message for the BlowFish. Gents, you are the guys who did Indie Games: The Movie, and some of you looked relatively normal in it, one of you looked like a total tosspot in it. You can’t have it both ways. You’re successful game designers, you’re indie game designers--hurrah, good for you, you fucking hipsters. Let’s get something out of the way. If you are successful and you want people to promote your games, and you go to the press and give them quotes for anything that pertains to your shilling your next title, when the press, then, come to you and say “this is something that’s pertinent to the indie scene, let’s talk to BlowFish because BlowFish are successful and they are, you know, supposedly these pioneers” don’t get fucking snicky about it, alright? Jesus, you should be grateful that these guys consider what you say something of use.. Me? I think the both of you are a pair of tosspots. You may make good games. Well, Blow makes...Blow makes a good game. Fez, I’m just not into at all. I’m just not into it. I respect people that do [enjoy it]. My own personal opinion, though? Having seen these wankers over and over again, bitch and moan--Phil Fish in particular, though.

Other Commentator: He does come across as whiny.

Beer: Whiny? He’s a fucking asshole most of the time. I’m an asshole, but that’s what I am, that’s what I do. I suck it up. But what I’m saying is that if you guys want the promotion the next time around on your Fez 2 or...what’s the follow-up to Braid, The Witless? Witless? Whoa! Yeah, c’mon. I would like to say to every outlet who got dismissed by BlowFish, fuck ‘em. Next time they have something to shill, say “yeah, not so much interested.” It is a two-way street, it’s a symbiotic relationship. You guys are out there, you have to suck it up.”

Game developers do not owe us anything, and I don’t owe them anything. It’s archaic to view the press-developer relationship as strictly symbiotic, and is indicative of an old view of the press-developer relationship. Do I often rely on developers to open up and allow me to tell their stories? Yes, but it’s an optional dance we do the tango to. No one is indebted to the other once that exchange has run its course, and that's the end of the road. If you're on a writer/journalist making this argument, that's really bad.

Anyway.

Fish caught wind of Beer’s comments, and exploded on Twitter.

("Compare your life to mine and then kill yourself" is a Futurama quote, but that's a bit besides the point.)

That’s just a taste. Beer eventually responded, and offered Fish an opportunity to discuss his commentary on camera, but Fish wasn’t interested. Over the next hour or so, Fish continued to vocally express his displeasure, speaking more broadly about his feelings about people slinging crap his way, and the toll it takes on psyche. It ended with Fez II’s abrupt cancellation, despite having been announced only recently.

I spent the weekend largely disconnected from the Internet. Like Fish, I’m a public figure, someone who puts themselves out there and deals with what comes back--the good and the bad. I’m not proud of the fact that I’ve grown a thick enough skin to deal with rape threats targeted at my wife simply because I’ve had the audacity to talk about sexism in video games. Nor am I proud of being able to withstand pot shots from anonymous jerks about my deceased father. These are not traits that will ever be mentioned in my resume.

We all handle criticism, especially the vitriolic kind, differently. I stopped responding to jerks, and ask people to come in my direction through email, private messages, or questions over Tumblr. Over time, it's produced excellent results, but not pulling the trigger and snarking back at a jerk is hard. Vocal game designer Hideki Kamiya tells people to fuck off. Fish responded by yelling, stirring the pot, and unironically latching himself to a photo of known troller (he probably would have hated that term) and comedian Andy Kaufman.

Some of his comments are indefensible, and some, I suspect, he wishes he could take back.

But I know the good of the Internet, too, and I wish Fish had, either, seen more of it or reminded himself of what it produces. I’ve had my moments with the Giant Bomb community, but so much has been tremendous.

I mean, look at this stuff.

When my father passed, the Giant Bomb community started a thread with well wishes about my work and anonymous comments about my father, a person none of them had ever met. I kept that thread bookmarked on my phone during the first week of my father’s passing, and would often head into the bathroom, page through the thread, not really reading anything, and cry. It was a showing of genuine compassion by a group of people who only knew me from what I put out there. When I needed them, they had my back.

And that's to say nothing of how we pulled together for during the passing of the irreplaceable Ryan Davis.

Whenever someone gets under my skin, I reach into my bag. Tucked into a pocket are a series of letters, private thoughts from people who have reached out over the years, thanking me for one thing or another that I've been involved in. Most of them bring a tear to my eye, and each reminds me why I'm still doing this.

99% of the Internet has been nothing but nice to me, even when it’s a backhanded compliment. It’s easy to focus on that 1%. That 1% is vile, hateful, spiteful, jealous, mean, and would likely be as venomous in a public place as they are with a badge of anonymity. Many are probably teenagers who will grow up and learn to regret their ignorant actions, but some of them aren’t, and those are the people who scare me the most. But I can’t spend my day worrying about the 1%. I wake up every day trying to make the other 99% happy.

I hope I’m doing an okay job of that.

Patrick Klepek on Google+
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Edited by KaneRobot

Justin McElroy said it best on Twitter - "It's probably a good thing that gifted, somewhat troubled artists didn't have Twitter until recently. We would have a lot less art I think."

Is Phil the best person to deal with socially? Certianly not. But it's hilarious that people are taking his "kill yourself" comment so heavily after he was called a fucking asshole wanker by this do-nothing moron game "critic." Here's some news for you - if you only support games made by people who are nice, politically correct, and calm 100% of the time, your game collection is going to look like garbage.

You can go fuck right off and please go find another hobby to shit on if you think Phil cancelling this is a "good thing." I don't care if you like Fez or not, we need more diversity and fresh ideas like what Phil came up with if gaming is going to thrive. Call of Duty ain't gonna last forever, kiddies.

Posted by Crash_Happy

All I know is that I rather liked Fez and was hoping Fez 2 would also be enjoyable. I've only briefly seen 'annoyed gamer', wasn't impressed.

Edited by Nekroskop

Phil Fish is a big fucking baby with severe emotional problems. I hope he takes this time off to get some professional help.

Posted by Deathpooky

I've always thought the hate Fish gets is ridiculous. He doesn't deal well with the hundreds of twitter comments, personal attacks, and pages of forum posts about him, but who's to say how any of us would act when put in that situation. Outside of the confines of the Internet he's seemed like a pretty cool dude, especially on the Giant Bomb stuff he's done. And his "controversial" comments are almost always way overblown because of his Internet image.

On the other hand, Marcus Beer seems like an actual asshole, or at the least playing a very convincing asshole character for show. And Beer just is a dime a dozen Internet gaming bullshitter who's shtick is insulting rants, as opposed to the two guys he apparently hates, who made two of the most creative downloadable games of the last decade. Why anyone is ending up on Beer's side, after he started this whole pissing match, is beyond me.

Posted by Hardtarget

@mdnthrvst: whether he deserves it or not is not the issue, the issue is that on any given day he's an asshole and because of this that's why people lash out at him. The guy hasn't learned anything after years of this going on, he just posted this in April for god's sakes http://steamcommunity.com/app/224760/discussions/0/828936719094418300/#p1

There's a reason people are assholes to him whether they should be or not and if he can't figure this out then it's going to just keep on happening forever.

Posted by shinjin977

Good write up Scoops. Sorry to hear about all the hate you got from random asshole. I have to say it really surprise me to read about that. I don't think I have one bad thing to say about the giantbomb crew, well except for that pie toilet thing, that was just wasteful.

I have said it before and I will say it again. You are the only gaming journalist that I considered a real journalist. Keep up the good work.

I hope Phil will be back, that Japanese comment aside (which is true by the way, just badly worded) I think he could have made something truly inspiring in the future.

Posted by SeanFoster

@mildmolasses said:
@deegee said:

@rmack said:

Nice article about yourself, Patrick. Could you write one about Phil now?

This is exactly my response when I read this.

Yeah, the nerve of someone on this personality driven site trying to provide personal insight into what it's like being on the receiving end internet hate and the difficulties of coping with it.

What next, are these guys gonna tell us about their weekends on the Bombcast?!

Oh, wait.

Posted by Shnippie

@patrickklepek The end of this article is exactly why I love Giant Bomb. You don't pretend to be above it all, and you act like real people. Obviously you're now famous, but it's still great to have an insight into the minds of you guys (that seems like terrible english), be that through Quick Looks, podcasts or articles. Anyways, thanks for the article, it was a really interesting read.

Edited by sonicrift

Whenever anyone says "you should be grateful" they deserve at least an eyeroll.

I like Phil Fish. I like what he created and I like his persona. He's a dick, but he's fun to watch. In this case, he's being a little petty, but yeah, this guy gets to choose to work on whatever project he can dream up. He's got no one telling him what to do (or what to say) and he chose that he wanted to devote himself to another Fez game. Every project can be a passion project if that's what he wants, so I doubt he's done with this game.

I've got no problem with him sending a big "Fuck you!" to any slimy journalist that thinks the industry owes them anything, just, hopefully it doesn't come at the player's expense.

Posted by Hardtarget

@jman240 said:

I'd like to point out that this actually started with Fish attacking Polygon over their quoting of Kevin Dent. That prompted a response from Beer, who in my opinion is a tasteless and tactless example of a nonconstructive critic, which then apparently became the straw that broke the camels back. Unfortunately, this is a premier example of a person who treated everyone else like they have thick skin, and yet does not possess the trait himself. I've never had a problem with the things that have been attributed to Fish, but I can't sympathize with this being the thing that finally drives him away when he speaks so very loudly and with such vitriol regarding his topics of choice. Beer is a strange person to let get under your skin though.

He's openly embracing of the fact that he's a dick to everyone. I also feel he supports his points poorly and uses few constructive elements in any of his criticism. He attacks people, that's what he does. Take his segment on the issue of Dragon's Crown. It was an attack on people who took issue with the portrayal of the female characters in that game. An attack on their character, an attack on their publications, and an attack on their opinions. All he said in that segment was that they were focusing on the wrong thing, that they were pushing agendas, and that he wasn't sexist. He spent half the video covering his ass without even attempting to present an alternative to what he though was wrong. That's not criticism, that's whining. He's not a person anyone should let get under their skin. There's no reason or excuse for Beer acting like he does, the only logical explanation for it is that he does it for attention. Which, honestly, is an even worse agenda to have than the ones he attacked. It's twice as harmful and a million times more unpleasant. None of his "criticism" need to be presented in that format and none of them are more effective for it.

this is what I was trying to say but @jman240 is a better speaker than I

Posted by Draxyle

I will say, the videogaming community is weaker without auteurs like Phil Fish in it, even if you didn't like him. The people crying "good riddance" disappoint me; while his "kill yourself" comment is definitely over the line, there's really nothing he's said or done beforehand that would deserve such intense hatred or ire.

I've only seen really him on Giantbomb or on twitter over just the last year, but I just don't see him as a legitimately bad person. Most of the people attacking Phil have no right to call him an asshole for the conduct that they, themselves, show towards him.

While I can't defend Phil for how he's handled all this, I do greatly empathize. Being constantly attacked by the entire internet for years on end, being constantly called a racist for one hyperbolic quote out of context, I can't possibly imagine what that does to the psyche. Just look at the comments the CoD guy got just for the weapon balance patch; Phil has been getting that for ages most likely. That's horrifying.

Edited by Sieghardt

Great article, there will always be those scumbags and cowards out there, you cant do much about them, you can only choose your own actions and turning around and being nasty to the other 99% because of that 1% is never the right choice.

Edited by Sticky_Pennies

Thanks for the writeup, Patrick. You brought a really interesting viewpoint to this kinda crazy recent event.

Edited by joshwent

A brilliant quote that someone put in the other thread about this. Needs to be reiterated because it sums this whole mess up.

From Justified:

"you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole; you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole."

Edited by mdnthrvst

@hardtarget said:

@mdnthrvst: whether he deserves it or not is not the issue, the issue is that on any given day he's an asshole and because of this that's why people lash out at him. The guy hasn't learned anything after years of this going on, he just posted this in April for god's sakes http://steamcommunity.com/app/224760/discussions/0/828936719094418300/#p1

There's a reason people are assholes to him whether they should be or not and if he can't figure this out then it's going to just keep on happening forever.

>whether he deserves it or not is not the issue

Disgusting viewpoints like these sometimes make me think that full, true-name transparency is the only way to change anything online. Maybe eighteen-year-old boys won't tell people they're going to rape and murder them if it actually had any consequence.

There are a lot of famous assholes! Baseball coaches, actors, R&B singers - they don't deserve to be taunted by thousands of anonymous OTHER assholes wildly out of proportion to any offense they could ever inflict themselves.

Posted by Nick

I always got the impression that Phil Fish is a good guy who doesn't know how to handle being a public figure.

Edited by Fallen189

Well arent you a special little snowflake

Edited by mostman

Just a quick PSA - if you are complaining about Patrick talking about his experience with the "bad internet" - you are entirely missing the point of his point. Try reading the article again. All of it. With an open mind. He isn't reporting on the news. You know the news. He is writing an editorial on the subject. Also - thank you for making his point.

Edited by Hardtarget

@hardtarget said:

@mdnthrvst: whether he deserves it or not is not the issue, the issue is that on any given day he's an asshole and because of this that's why people lash out at him. The guy hasn't learned anything after years of this going on, he just posted this in April for god's sakes http://steamcommunity.com/app/224760/discussions/0/828936719094418300/#p1

There's a reason people are assholes to him whether they should be or not and if he can't figure this out then it's going to just keep on happening forever.

>whether he deserves it or not is not the issue

Disgusting viewpoints like these sometimes make me think that full, real-identity transparency is the only way to change anything online. Maybe eighteen-year-old boys won't tell people they're going to rape and murder them if it actually had any consequence.

There are a lot of famous assholes! Baseball coaches, actors, R&B singers - they don't deserve to be taunted by thousands of anonymous OTHER assholes wildly out of proportion to any offense they could ever inflict themselves.

I don't think you're getting what I'm saying...

Edited by YarHar707

Good riddance, this guy was an egotistical dick, a racist and has yet to make a good game.

He should take his own advice under consideration.

Posted by leinad44

Twitter is the worst thing for people to use if they are mentally unstable. Especially if they are a public figure. I've seen a couple of instances when this exact thing has happened.

Edited by baldgye

One of the best put together FEZ2 stories I've read over the last couple of days, thanks Patrick.

Posted by Palaeomerus

"We all handle criticism, especially the vitriolic kind, differently."

This simply does not cover or begin to cover what happened. Marcus was rude and Fish was...welll..insane. His blow up was repulsive, creepily narcissistic, out of control, ridiculous, and frankly more akin to someone threatening to rape your wife or mocking your dead father than what Marcus did. And it is not new for Fish. He once tweeted that someone should suck his dick and choke on it because the person said he had not published a game yet and FIsh had won an award for his unreleased game. Fish is just a trainwreck.

I simply cannot tolerate the kind of muck than Fish in his ire thought he was magically entitled to spew. I am glad that he canceled his second game. I uninstalled Fez, which I never played, from Steam today and wish I could give it back somehow. I dislike Marcus (and Jim Sterling) as cheap muck raking shock-jock wanna be's, but Fish was so appalling and alienating that I hope he gets help and stays out of the news. I never want to see or hear from him again. I have NEVER felt less respect for anyone in the gaming industry than I did for Fish after his sad and insipid tirade. That's not on me or Marcus Beer or the faceless gradient of the internet. That's on Fish.

Posted by smcn

@deegee said:

@rmack said:

Nice article about yourself, Patrick. Could you write one about Phil now?

This is exactly my response when I read this.

You guys should switch places with the commenters on Ben Kuchera's story who are complaining about it having too much Phil Fish.

Edited by PimblyCharles

Where's that photo of Phil sitting on Ryan's lap when you need it?

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Posted by AlmostSwedish

@iamnotbatman said:

@mildmolasses said:
@deegee said:

@rmack said:

Nice article about yourself, Patrick. Could you write one about Phil now?

This is exactly my response when I read this.

Yeah, the nerve of someone on this personality driven site trying to provide personal insight into what it's like being on the receiving end internet hate and the difficulties of coping with it.

What next, are these guys gonna tell us about their weekends on the Bombcast?!

Oh, wait.


Who do they think they are, telling us their opinion about video games?

Posted by Cleric22

That last paragraph man....like a headshot to the feels *sniff* I love this website!

Posted by Jayzilla

Phil tells people to Eff off. Like for serious he tells them that. You can't tell people off on Twitter like that and not expect it to not happen to you as well. You also can't have Tony Clifton as your avatar on Twitter and throw a temper tantrum for real.

This just in guys: PHIL FISH IS TROLLING ALL OF YOU.

Posted by sundowner

Is it just me or could this have all been avoided if they didn't immediately go to whining about how the press is always asking them questions and just said "I don't want to talk about a rumor"

I really have no personal opinion of Phil Fish one way or the other, but he's obviously a dude with some issues that he needs to work out and I hope he finally realizes it. Because let's be real, if you treat people the way that he's treated people over the past few years, what are you expecting? People to be nice to you? Not to excuse in any way the shit that he gets, nobody deserves that, but at some point he has to look at himself before going on about "the internet"

Posted by danielheard

Great article.
One of the things I took away from "Indie Game" was how sensitive a fella Mr Fish is. To know that and levy such awful undo anger at him in an effort to provoke a response is unprofessional and immoral. It still bogles my mind that people enjoy abject negativity as an entertaining critical stance, or that anyone expressing that much vitriol can claim to be a "journalist".

I wish Mr Fish the best, and not only because I very selfishly want to play "Fez II".

Edited by Baltimore

LOVE FEZ.

That is all.

Posted by Duxa

Good riddance Phil Fish, you will not be missed by anyone I know. Between my friends and I we gave you several hundred $$ for FEZ... most of us cant finish it because of bugs, some of us tried playing it over again, investing 10+ hours just to be c0ck blocked by the same bug at the very very end. If you werent such a drama queen and spent the money or effort necessary to patch or at least find workarounds for these bugs then we'd have at least some respect for you. But instead you come off as an entitled egotistical asshole... have fun doing whatever you are going to do.. love FEZ before it broke on us, but at this point the taste is so sour that we are not interested in FEZ II even a bit. You are too much drama Phil Fish, tired of your shenanigans and negative energy you spew all over everyone.

Posted by andrew2696

@subjugation: I like AVGN but that's it really. Used to like Zero Punctuation if that fits the description.

Posted by johnLongview

@bishop113: Awesome job proving Patrick's point.

*looks at your post history*

Oh, got it. You don't like one of the personalities on the site. Hey, neither do I. One guy on here just rubs me the wrong way. Even when he's covering stuff I love, I end up watching 3 minutes of it, and turning it off. Then I realize there are hours upon hours of other content on the site, and spend my time on them.

You imply that Patrick's personal perspective on the story is "nonsense," and unnecessary. So why would you click through, once you saw the headline and byline? If you were looking for facts alone, surely there are many other sites with those?

Edited by Stepside

@danlongman: I liked your post, I really did. Just please keep out the mass generalization of Quebeckers. We're not all like Phil Fish. Thanks.

Edited by leinad44

Good riddance, this guy was an egotistical dick, a racist and has yet to make a good game.

He should take his own advice under consideration.

Woah! When was he racist? I must have missed that. Are you talking about that Japanese games thing? That wasn't racist!

Posted by Redhotchilimist

Nice article! I appreciate this kind of report a lot more than those that initially reported on this. It was even uplifting at the end, which was a pleasant surprise. I reacted to these news first with anger directed at Fish for saying outrageous things again, but reading what Beer and everyone on twitter has been saying to him I just felt bad. Everyone were saying awful stuff. Until Fish and the thousands of people online he keeps arguing with make up, this article is the happiest ending I could hope for.

Posted by nate6858
Posted by Leosol

Thanks for the article Patrick, and for the added insight. I've enjoyed beer's commentaries from time to time as a form of entertainment, but never as some sort of news outlet. Regardless of Fish's personality, or Beer's for that matter, no one deserves the punishment the Internet is constantly subjecting them to. Fish is perfectly entitled to take his game and go home. He doesn't owe anyone anything, and shouldn't be treated as such.

Posted by Fobwashed

I don't know that Beer guy except from this ordeal and I for one hope that he gets nothing from Devs ever again.

What it boils down to is that there is only one Phil Fish and Jonathan Blow who do the unique things they do while there are plenty of people out there that seem to be able to do what Beer is doing, and do it better. What I don't need from games reporting is more snark and assholes. What I do want from game devs are more interesting games. So while I'm not defending the trash talking that does come from JB and PF, I still want to consume their content whereas I don't give two shits about anything that Beer guy writes.

Posted by Blu3V3nom07

So, I don't understand. What's Polytron gonna do now without Fish?

Posted by mdnthrvst

@mdnthrvst said:

@hardtarget said:

@mdnthrvst: whether he deserves it or not is not the issue, the issue is that on any given day he's an asshole and because of this that's why people lash out at him. The guy hasn't learned anything after years of this going on, he just posted this in April for god's sakes http://steamcommunity.com/app/224760/discussions/0/828936719094418300/#p1

There's a reason people are assholes to him whether they should be or not and if he can't figure this out then it's going to just keep on happening forever.

>whether he deserves it or not is not the issue

Disgusting viewpoints like these sometimes make me think that full, real-identity transparency is the only way to change anything online. Maybe eighteen-year-old boys won't tell people they're going to rape and murder them if it actually had any consequence.

There are a lot of famous assholes! Baseball coaches, actors, R&B singers - they don't deserve to be taunted by thousands of anonymous OTHER assholes wildly out of proportion to any offense they could ever inflict themselves.

I don't think you're getting what I'm saying...

I didn't miss your point, I ignored your point. Telling someone to change their fundamental personality to maybe get tens of thousands of teenage boys to stop screaming at them (which wouldn't work anyway, since Fish's reputation is set in stone by now) is a ludicrous request, especially if Phil truly is bipolar, which I don't know, but is easy to imagine.

There are a lot of fucking troubled artists throughout history. A lot of assholes, prone to rude or distasteful statements.

If Twitter had been around for all of the past five hundred years, I'd bet my life that most of their work would never have happened. It's the worst.

Posted by Nick

Remember, friends, this is the guy who is famous for this. He doesn't understand the concept of tact. He is just mean.

If someone from Giantbomb said "they suck, i'm sorry you guys need to get with the times and make better interfaces and update your technology....etc" I don't think they would receive such a negative response because people expect them to be critical, I could even imagine Ryan or Alex saying this. I don't know... I just think it's better to be honest about your opinion that to sweeten it up just for the sake of being nice.

Posted by jarowdowsky

Phil has mentioned on Neogaf that he's bipolar. Assuming that's true, he's going to be prone to severe mood swings, and if that's the case, talking to gamers on the internet is probably the worst possible thing he could do. When you look at the people who have antagonized him, it's always younger, self-important gamers who seem to feel like the world owes them a favor and throw around words like 'fag' in normal conversation like it has no lasting undertones.

Ah, hadn't read that but was thinking it. I've worked in mental health services for plenty of years and did have that feeling from Phil when I've seen him interviewed.

I think what makes me worry around that is how exposed he seems to be. I've no doubt that the kind of drive and even manic energy that's seen him created something Fez will probably see him do other great things. He doesn't however seem to have much professional support or walls against these kind of insults and without that grounding influence I think the industry he's in is always going to be prodding for a reaction. If that's on a bad day, yeah, well here's the inevitable reaction.

Hopefully out of the limelight there are enough people to provide him support that his next project keeps going. I mean, just look at Fez, even if you don't like him or the game it's clearly good enough to want him to keep making games. I'm staggered by the people here who would like him to never work on anything else again. I just do not understand that? There world would be better with less interesting games?

That Marcus Beer though, well I guess the world lost a fucking toilet attendant when they invented 'shite youtube commentator' as a job.

Edited by Robopengy

I really, really hate people like Phil Fish. That is to say, ego maniacs without the littlest bit of humility. You can't act like he does and expect people to like you. Remember when he told everyone to suck his dick after he won that IGF? Remember when he said "I AM THE GENIUS VOICE OF A GENERATION"? No matter how you feel on the inside, you can't go through life acting like he does and expect love in return.

Posted by Sarnecki

Just when you think games are maturing, a writer of Patricks caliber is forced to write about a kindergarten fight and pretend it's serious news.

Posted by berfarah

I would love to see or hear more of Phil – as a guest on the podcast or part of a video feature. I feel like the Giant Bomb is the best place for him to eventually come back onto the internet, in a safe environment, since the only type of antagonizing that seems to happen here is tongue and cheek, not vicious.

Posted by alwaysbebombing

Patrick, in your older years you should just become a blazer-wearing Journalism College Professor.

Edited by Bakumatsu

People that spend their time criticizing the work of other people or the people themselves, don't have anything better to do with their lifes. Period. If they had a life with friends, children, a job, a partner who cares about him/her or bigger problems than something said by someone on the internet that they didn't like, they probably didn't have too much time to talk or write about something that isn't that important, specially to their happiness.

Want I just want so say is (and this is something that I learned with the passage of years): Chill out. We only have one life. Enjoy it.

Edited by Gunslinger0130

Great article as usual Patrick. Nice work.