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Warhammer 40K MMO is No Longer a Warhammer 40K MMO, Layoffs Hit Relic and Vigil

There's probably going to be a day when we report happy THQ news. This isn't that day.

It's not that we enjoy talking about THQ's miseries, though you'd be forgiven for thinking so, given the general volume of rather lousy news we've reported on the publisher in the last several months. Today's news probably isn't going to help matters, but we swear, we hate reporting on this. It's just that this stuff keeps happening.

Imagine this, but less massively online.
Imagine this, but less massively online.

Today's woeful news comes surrounding THQ's former Warhammer MMO, Dark Millennium. At one point not too long ago, industry fixture Kevin Dent proclaimed the game dead on twitter, which got THQ PR into a tizzy of denials, claiming the game was still in the works, though eventually conceding that the company was seeking a partner to help finance and publish the game.

Now Dent's proclamations of doom have been proven partially right, as the game has been shifted to a more traditional "premium" single- and multiplayer game. Dark Millennium, the MMO, is dead. Long live Dark Millennium, the single-player-focused adventure, apparently. The new version of Millennium will include online multiplayer, but it shall be decidedly less massive than previously intended.

As if that news weren't troubling enough, THQ decided to put a particularly unpleasant tasting cherry on top of this whole shit sundae by also announcing over a hundred layoffs, split between Vigil Games and Relic Entertainment. 79 were let go from Vigil, while 39 were laid off at Relic.

The layoffs were perhaps inevitable, given the shift in Dark Millennium's direction. Still, this is just the latest volley of layoffs surrounding THQ products in a year's span that has already seen several bouts of this. 240 employees were let go back in February, while last June THQ shuttered Kaos Studios, the team behind Homefront, altogether.

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The Emperor protects.

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@iAmJohn said:

@Rincewind

THQ is going to ruin the Warhammer franchise. I think another developer should get a hold of it now and see what they can do.

Yup, they sure are going to ruin it with games like Dawn of War, all the expansions, Space Marine...

lol thank you. Those games were fucking awesome. Also, EA has done more damage than THQ ever will. WAR was pretty fucking good (or could have been with a few simple updates), but EA didn't give a fuck about that game and now we're left with the atrocity we have today.

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I would still absolutely play a non-MMO Vigil made Warhammer 40k action-RPG.

Ditto
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@spazmaster666 said:

Layoffs are never a good thing, but I have to say that I'm more excited about Dark Millennium now that it's no longer going to be an MMO. Though I love pretty much everything about the Warhammer 40K universe, I don't think even that would have been enough to make me want to play an MMO.

Agreed.

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Too bad

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@sushisteve:

Based it on the Gaunts Ghost books and I'll buy 40

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Layoffs are never a good thing, but I have to say that I'm more excited about Dark Millennium now that it's no longer going to be an MMO. Though I love pretty much everything about the Warhammer 40K universe, I don't think even that would have been enough to make me want to play an MMO.

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@Rincewind said:

THQ is going to ruin the Warhammer franchise. I think another developer should get a hold of it now and see what they can do.

I'd love to see a DICE made Battlefield 40K...

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And now I no longer feel sure enough to pre-order Darksiders 2. *sigh* Sorry, Vigil, but I have to wait for reviews.

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Well, okay. My brother was looking forward to the MMO, don't know how he'll feel about this.

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This sucks for the guys who lost their jobs but the odds of me playing this game just greatly increased.

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I feel obligated to go out and purchase every game THQ puts out in the future, just to try and support them.

Goddammit, I don't care what you put out, just give me a product and I'll give you money.

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Fuck.

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This is utter nonsense.

They're going to retool Vigil's MMO in to a single player action adventure instead of continuing Relic's already stellar Warhammer 40k action adventure!?

This is why you're falling apart, THQ. It's shit like this.

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@adoggz said:

Does this make it more or less likely that there will be a space marine 2? I loved the shit out of the first one.

They said already (around Space Marines release if I remember) that there was no chance of a sequel.

Which sucks.

Really really really sucks.

Wasn't that because they were gonna have an mmo? They wont now so maybe they might change that never gonna happen stance.
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@LordAndrew said:

@revel said:

Actually now this game is on my radar! Because MMO's are for shit... Its like they are turning a pack of crappy cigarretes into a cheeseburger.

I hope it reworks into a cool Single Player game. With a real end to it.

I'm not sure I'd eat a cheeseburger that used to be a pack of cigarettes, but you're welcome to try to change my mind. What condiments would be on this cigburger?

Ketchup, spicy mustard, tomatoes, pickles, and a whoooooole lotta nicotine!

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@revel said:

Actually now this game is on my radar! Because MMO's are for shit... Its like they are turning a pack of crappy cigarretes into a cheeseburger.

I hope it reworks into a cool Single Player game. With a real end to it.

I'm not sure I'd eat a cheeseburger that used to be a pack of cigarettes, but you're welcome to try to change my mind. What condiments would be on this cigburger?
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@forkboy said:

@TheHT said:

I would still absolutely play a non-MMO Vigil made Warhammer 40k action-RPG.

Yeah, that appeals to me more than an MMO to be honest. It could be a good thing in the long run?

Kinda with you guys. A 40K MMO sounds super rad but I'm not really an MMO guy so I'm not too upset about this.

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STOP MAKING MMO'S EVERYONE, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

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Did anyone really think this game was going come out? As an MMO, that is. Not to piss anyone off, but it would have failed. It would have quickly been turned into a free to play MMO and slowly dwindle in the charts of popularity/player count. MMO's, subscription wise, are a thing of the past. Too many have failed at this point, and the market for it has changed. As costs continue to go up, and as more and more players continue to keep their money in their pocket (most players would rather not pay for subscriptions) it's just not worth the risk. If the developer doesn't have the money to TRY and make a high end MMO (most developers do not), then in the end, it's not even worth the cost. They are better off creating this game, and others, in a single player/multi-player setting.

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@SerHulse said:

@adoggz said:

Does this make it more or less likely that there will be a space marine 2? I loved the shit out of the first one.

They said already (around Space Marines release if I remember) that there was no chance of a sequel.

Which sucks.

Really really really sucks.

Link? Was it a sales thing? This is the first I've heard of this and I am NONE TOO PLEASED.

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MMOs are designed very differently than Single-player games. This is going to be a rough transition.

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@AndrooD2 said:

It sucks for the people laid off, but I'm more excited about a single-player 40K RPG than I was for the MMO.

My sentiments exactly. A Skyrim-like set in WH40K? Yes please.
 
I fucking hate MMOs.
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Actually now this game is on my radar! Because MMO's are for shit... Its like they are turning a pack of crappy cigarretes into a cheeseburger.

I hope it reworks into a cool Single Player game. With a real end to it.

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well that sucks was pretty pumped for this MMO but a single player with online mode could be pretty damn fun just make the combat as good as the last warhammer game and Add in levels and loot and you sold me.

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Sad day, I know a guy at relic, I'll have to ask him what's up.

Though as a huge 40k fan, that game looked terrible, bad art style.

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Fuuuuuuuuuuuck. Dark Millenium got me hyped more than, well, SWTOR.

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Sure, why not? The MMO part was always going to end up being the worst part of them game, so removing it might push the whole project in a better direction.

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I swear, if this shit impacts Vigil to the point of impairing/jeopardizing Darksiders 2, while Dudebro McDouche FPS No. 37 rakes in the millions, what point is there in gaming anymore?

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That's sad I like both those studios

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Hmmm, aside from the lay offs this is good news for me. I'd rather have a Kingdoms of Amalar style Warhammer 40k game than another MMO.

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Fuck. Relic is such a great studio. They don't deserve this. Fucking THQ.

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Who told you to die? Keep fighting!

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Bummer.
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I doubt it'll ever actually come out, and it sucks for Relic to be losing people, but I'd take a single player RPG set in 40K over yet another shit sandwich of an MMO ANYDAY.

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That sucks.

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@adoggz said:

Does this make it more or less likely that there will be a space marine 2? I loved the shit out of the first one.

They said already (around Space Marines release if I remember) that there was no chance of a sequel.

Which sucks.

Really really really sucks.

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@HarlechQuinn said:

Oh well... there goes my most anticipated MMO... So I have to put my hopes in "The Secret World"... And we all know how this might end, judging by Funcom's track record so far...

I know :(

I heard from a couple of people (and Jeff) that GW2 wasn't as amazing as it looked, which Fing suuuuucks, because the only thing that will get me back into MMOs is something very different.

I don't actually think Secret World looks that great, I don't get why everyone thinks it does. Is there a video or something I missed?

Even so Age of Conan was my last Funcom game (I was so excited for that game, and it started great) but man they really let you down.

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I feel bad for the people who lost their jobs :/

especially at Relic. they are a good company that makes good games.

(also they're canadian)

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The Warhammer 40k universe is immense. For any studio to do an mmo successfully, they will need ALOT of money behind it. A half-ass 40k mmo won't cut it.

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It sucks for the people laid off, but I'm more excited about a single-player 40K RPG than I was for the MMO.

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:'(

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It's disturbing to see layoffs hit THQ's "successful" studios. Darksiders from Vigil and Space Marine from Relic were a few bright spots in THQ's lineup.

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Relic REALLY needs to do Homeworld 3. If they don't I will literally die. LITERALLY.

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Oh well... there goes my most anticipated MMO... So I have to put my hopes in "The Secret World"... And we all know how this might end, judging by Funcom's track record so far...

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Relic and Vergil didn't deserve to get laid off...the last games they have made weren't blockbusters but were still pretty good (Darksiders and Space Marine). Relic also has Dawn of War 2 which is my favorite RTS other than Company of Heroes. I mean those guys really made great tactical and terrain-focused RTS games wherein the battlefield itself would dynamically change over time as a match progressed. I enjoy their games more compared to Starcraft which I find to be more fun as a spectator rather than a player. I hope those guys laid off would be able to a land another job soon.

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That's a bummer, I didn't really care about a 40K MMO, but never good to see great studios lose people to downsizing.

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@Rincewind: Relic is the developer, THQ is a publishing company.

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An MMO turned into a regular game. I'm sure that will do well. Hopefully they are just shifting the story and assets. Otherwise... Ugh. Anyway, that sux for THQ... Somebody send them some flowers or something, they need it.

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79 people from Vigil?

Ouch.