There will be a Hardcore Mode!

• No Killcam
• Friendly Fire ON
• No Aiming Reticule - Ironsights Only (and Scopes and Red Dot of course)
• Higher Bullet Damage
• No Minimap
• No HUD whatsoever
• No Spotting On-screen Indicators
• Sensorballs just start to piep, when somebody moves in it's area of effect (and only a limited number active per team)

Woot! The first game sort of had a "normal" and "hard" level for multiplayer but I didn't think there was much of a difference. This "hardcore" mode seems like it is up my alley. I just hope idiots won't use this mode to thoughtlessly teamkill everyone. This is most excellent news, now those killcam whiners can shut up.

I share your concern about sniper damage and I think you don't have to worry since the Battlefield series has yet to overpower their snipers, which of course would allow snipers to dominate on the big maps that the games have always had.  I'd be surprised if they slipped up now.
 
Excited for this game though.

sweet! 

I'm thinking snipers won't be a problem, since the damage will be offset by the difficulty of finding targets with no hud. Aside from that, woo!

That's awesome. Now I won't have to download a mod to play a "realistic" version of vanilla BFBC2. There's still room for tactical realism mods like PR, though.

This just gets better and better, I CANNOT wait for this game.

I can't see myself playing a hardcore mode at all in a Battlefield game -- I just vision people in tanks not caring whom they're shooting at and the such. I'll play the hell out of regular online play however!

I just hope the bullet damage isn't too high, 1 shot kills from assault rifles with be stupid as hell.

Great... now not only do I get shot by a camper sniper hiding in a bush 2KM away, but I can't even find out where he is *angry face*

" Great... now not only do I get shot by a camper sniper hiding in a bush 2KM away, but I can't even find out where he is *angry face* "

Modern Warfare 2 anyone?
 
Whatever, it is good that they are putting in these features. Might actually check this game out now.

" @essaregee said:

" Great... now not only do I get shot by a camper sniper hiding in a bush 2KM away, but I can't even find out where he is *angry face* "

That's the beauty of the optional nature of the mode.  If you don't like it, don't use it. "

" @Stephen_Von_Cloud said:

" @essaregee said:

" Great... now not only do I get shot by a camper sniper hiding in a bush 2KM away, but I can't even find out where he is *angry face* "

That's the beauty of the optional nature of the mode.  If you don't like it, don't use it. "

 Very true, but I like hardcore modes haha "

Some forum guys living in SoCal were invited to the Squad Deathmatch reveal event and have played 7 hours of Panama Canal Conquest and the Jungle Map Squad Deathmatch. There have also been previews from that event on Gamespot, Kotaku, Destructoid and IGN, some of which are mentioning the Hardcore mode.  Too tired to check for it right now. It's like 6 AM... played a whole night of BF:BC 2 PS3 Beta again. I'm sure you'll find it. Check the official UK Battlefield forum. There's a couple of threads there too.
 
There was a 'Hard' mode planned for BF:BC 1, which would have included similiar changes to the gamebalance. It had been pulled in the last second for unknown reasons. Let's hope this doesn't happen this time around. Wouldn't be a Battlefield game with Friendly Fire OFF. ;P

  @Seppli said:

"

• No Aiming Reticule - Ironsights Only (and Scopes and Red Dot of course)
• No HUD whatsoever "
  

" Modern Warfare 2 anyone?   "

"   @Seppli said:

"

• No Aiming Reticule - Ironsights Only (and Scopes and Red Dot of course)
• No HUD whatsoever "
  

By "aiming reticule," do you mean the onscreen crosshair?
And surely vehicles have a HUD element to tell the operator how damaged they are, right?

Game keeps getting better and better.

I don't like that they're making all these lumped into one "mode."  IMO, friendly fire and killcam should be their own, individual options/filters, because I don't want the killcam and I do want friendly fire on, and they're significant enough on their own to be separate checkbox options.  But I don't want no minimap, no aiming reticule, higher bullet damage, no HUD, and no spotting.  This means I'll have to play with a killcam and friendly fire off if I don't want to have an even less desireable set of feature-enabling/disabling.  I don't like it.

Everything about that sounds fun, other than friendly fire. I'll waste so many goddamned teammates by accident in this.

" Modern Warfare 2 anyone?"

so hardcore will be bad company just without good things like hud and reticule and minimap. Its funny how casual games are getting when they call the basics hardcore.

" so hardcore will be bad company just without good things like hud and reticule and minimap. Its funny how casual games are getting when they call the basics hardcore. "

" I don't like that they're making all these lumped into one "mode."  IMO, friendly fire and killcam should be their own, individual options/filters, because I don't want the killcam and I do want friendly fire on, and they're significant enough on their own to be separate checkbox options.  But I don't want no minimap, no aiming reticule, higher bullet damage, no HUD, and no spotting.  This means I'll have to play with a killcam and friendly fire off if I don't want to have an even less desireable set of feature-enabling/disabling.  I don't like it. "

Wow, this game keeps getting better and better. I really like what they're doing with it. Doesn't just sound like just a small upgrade of BC1. Feels like they're putting a lot of effort into it, even in the PC version!

" @JP_Russell said:

" I don't like that they're making all these lumped into one "mode."  IMO, friendly fire and killcam should be their own, individual options/filters, because I don't want the killcam and I do want friendly fire on, and they're significant enough on their own to be separate checkbox options.  But I don't want no minimap, no aiming reticule, higher bullet damage, no HUD, and no spotting.  This means I'll have to play with a killcam and friendly fire off if I don't want to have an even less desireable set of feature-enabling/disabling.  I don't like it. "

I wonder what kind of options dedicated server admins will have. It would be great to be able to set basic things like killcam, spotting, individual hud elements, crosshairs, friendly fire, and ticket count. However some things should be kept strictly to realism mode and realism mode shouldn't be changeable.  But I doubt they'll get many options with the way EA's trying to control the process. "

Kind of sucks they are getting rid of the friendly fire from the normal mode. Made you think more about where you were shooting and really think about where you were going to put down heavy fire from a tank or artillery.

" Kind of sucks they are getting rid of the friendly fire from the normal mode. Made you think more about where you were shooting and really think about where you were going to put down heavy fire from a tank or artillery. "