"Confused here (once again) are you saying that both adaptation and tie in can be used to describe a game based on another medium depending on how truly it sticks to the medium... ?"

I agree that Dante's Inferno shouldn't be on that list.  As the blurb describes it, these are book based off of video games, and I'm pretty sure that Dante's Inferno is working the other way around on that one.

"Endogene said:

"Confused here (once again) are you saying that both adaptation and tie in can be used to describe a game based on another medium depending on how truly it sticks to the medium... ?"

You mean about what I said of Dante's Inferno? I think it's a bad example since we don't really know the game's plot. It could be they just took the title, so it's hard to say. But, from what I got, a Tie-In has to stick at least to the same universe as the original source... doesn't it?

And, yes, Sam & Max was originally a strip, then it became a comic book and then became a game. So I guess it's correct to say it's a Comic Book Tie-In."

"Endogene said:

"Just to be sure:

Book or novel adaptation: Books or novels based upon a video games.

Book Tie-In: Games based upon a novel or a book."

Yes, I like how the conclusion is to leave it as it was originally."

"Endogene said:

"Confused here (once again) are you saying that both adaptation and tie in can be used to describe a game based on another medium depending on how truly it sticks to the medium... ?"

You mean about what I said of Dante's Inferno? I think it's a bad example since we don't really know the game's plot. It could be they just took the title, so it's hard to say. But, from what I got, a Tie-In has to stick at least to the same universe as the original source... doesn't it?

And, yes, Sam & Max was originally a strip, then it became a comic book and then became a game. So I guess it's correct to say it's a Comic Book Tie-In."

chililili said:

"Endogene said:

"Just to be sure:

Book or novel adaptation: Books or novels based upon a video games.

Book Tie-In: Games based upon a novel or a book."

Yes, I like how the conclusion is to leave it as it was originally."

this here. Well lets skip dante's infirno since we do not know much about it but lets take American Mc Gee's Alice witch is based upon the fable/novel, how would you classify that game?
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"zitosilva said:

"Endogene said:

"Confused here (once again) are you saying that both adaptation and tie in can be used to describe a game based on another medium depending on how truly it sticks to the medium... ?"

You mean about what I said of Dante's Inferno? I think it's a bad example since we don't really know the game's plot. It could be they just took the title, so it's hard to say. But, from what I got, a Tie-In has to stick at least to the same universe as the original source... doesn't it?

And, yes, Sam & Max was originally a strip, then it became a comic book and then became a game. So I guess it's correct to say it's a Comic Book Tie-In."

I think that we could have a debate on that, but in order to keep it simple lets jsut say that regardless of how much of the source material remains intact, if something is a  XXXXX adaptation, the videogame inspired the XXXXX, but if it is an XXXXX tie-in, then the videogame comes from the XXXXX."

It is just like i said some post higher up but with the type of medium replaced by XXXXX

Book or novel adaptation: Books or novels based upon a video games.

Book Tie-In: Games based upon a novel or a book.

"this here. Well lets skip dante's infirno since we do not know much about it but lets take American Mc Gee's Alice witch is based upon the fable/novel, how would you classify that game?"

"Endogene said:

"this here. Well lets skip dante's infirno since we do not know much about it but lets take American Mc Gee's Alice witch is based upon the fable/novel, how would you classify that game?"

It's an adaptation.

Definition of adaptation via Merriam-Webster:  a composition rewritten into a new form

So, in turn...it would mean that most of what we've talked about are adaptations.  A tie-in would be something that is almost expressly made as a way to gain extra profit from a property all at once.  i.e. Harry Potter: Order of the Phoenix game released at the same time as Harry Potter: Order of the Phoenix movie

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"jakob187 said:

"Endogene said:

"this here. Well lets skip dante's infirno since we do not know much about it but lets take American Mc Gee's Alice witch is based upon the fable/novel, how would you classify that game?"

It's an adaptation.

Definition of adaptation via Merriam-Webster:  a composition rewritten into a new form

So, in turn...it would mean that most of what we've talked about are adaptations.  A tie-in would be something that is almost expressly made as a way to gain extra profit from a property all at once.  i.e. Harry Potter: Order of the Phoenix game released at the same time as Harry Potter: Order of the Phoenix movie

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Ha back to zero we are...

How about we just call these different concepts:

Game adapted from Medium X
Game adapted to Medium X

Since tie-in and adaptation are the same thing in some manner?
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A tie-in adds on to the product (or gets tied on), while an adaptation retells it.

Example: The Blizzard books are tie-ins because they add on to the universe they are based on, but Spider-man: The Movie (game) is an adaptation because it's a retelling of the movie in video game form.

"A tie-in adds on to the product (or gets tied on), while an adaptation retells it.

Example: The Blizzard books are tie-ins because they add on to the universe they are based on, but Spider-man: The Movie (game) is an adaptation because it's a retelling of the movie in video game form."

There's no reason to have a movies based on games page since this isn't a movie website.

And there i was thinking it would be fun to know what games where remade in other mediums...
Those concept pages could have been really interesting.

Hey gang, great discussion...

The original intent of this concept was simple... I saw many games listed with "movie tie-in" or "tv tie-in" concepts and I thought, "why not a book tie-in?"  It seemed such a simple step, but I agree with the general discussion that there are really two categories here.  Some games are based on intellectual property that originated in book/novel form (e.g. all LOTR games are based on Tolkien's books), and some books are based on IP that originated in a video game (e.g. books in the Halo franchise, I think).

The original concept was not divided and simply indicated that a book/novel exists that relates to the events/characters of a game.  I'm willing to admit that you all have put a lot more thought into the concept than I had, and I think it's awesome that this site can evolve and grow based on our input and discussion.