W4R D3N boss unbalanced for solo play?

#1 Edited by HerbieBug (3840 posts) -

So. This thing. It doesn't seem balanced to me. I'm level 14 Zer0. I have an okay corrosive SMG for that level and an alright electricity sniper rifle. Run up, unload three clips worth of the SMG into it's eye, barely take down the shield, get in trouble, run for cover to deal with the respawning minions (infinite spawns?). By the time I've cleared a path back to him, the goddamn shield is fully charged again.

What the hell?

And no, I'm not paying for xbl gold just to beat a boss. D:

edit--- got him, see post below.

#2 Posted by konig_kei (575 posts) -

drop sentry, wait then collect loot.

#3 Posted by Ares42 (2443 posts) -

While some bosses certainly are hard when playing solo I've found the key to succeeding is using your ability. When I did W4R D3N as Zer0 I actually just ran out of the room and got just the right angle to keep sniping him in the eye from range.

#4 Posted by HistoryInRust (6215 posts) -

@HerbieBug: You might have to grind elsewhere for a bit before taking this prick down. If you can find one, use an electric weapon against shields, or slag the Warden and switch quickly to an explosive gun/high powered weapon.

I know it's easier said than done, but if you're playing solo your strategy needs to prioritize your own survival. If you die while playing alone any boss you've encountered will regain all of their health and shielding. Again, grind a bit to 15 or 16 and see if you can't make a bigger dent in the armor.

#5 Posted by Mnemoidian (944 posts) -

Corrosive is pretty terrible against shields, while Lightning damage pretty much shorts the shields immediately. So... it sounds like you are doing it backwards. Snipe the eye, then swap to the SMG.

And as far as I can remember; the W4R D3N is a constructor? So... yeah, it pretty much creates additional enemies infinitely.

#6 Posted by wemibelec90 (1278 posts) -

Shotguns are quite useful on that fight. You will have to run in and out to avoid his pound attack but it drops him pretty quickly. Just did it on Zer0 today using that strategy, in fact.

#7 Edited by HH (523 posts) -

i retreated and bought myself some electicity grenades and a better electricity sniper rifle, then approached him from his right side, where there's decent cover, threw all my grenades at him, and unloaded clips into his eye till he was dead, trying to stay behind cover from the minion's fire. i was lvl 15 i think, a siren. it was the first time i had to rethink / plan something in the game, so i was glad of it.

#8 Edited by HerbieBug (3840 posts) -

Done.

Change of strategy did the trick. Mostly just picking sniping locations that fell on the very edge of the robits aggro range so to minimize the amount of distraction they provide.

Balance on this is wacky though, I will still maintain. That is a random difficulty spike for this area of the game. Particularly due to the 1-way fast travel point nearby = major backtrack if you happen to arrive at this boss with ineffective weaponry.

#9 Posted by 2HeadedNinja (1447 posts) -

I didnt manage to kill him by myself, not even close. But it was fun that you actually get to see a different area if you dont manage to scrap him the first time. The second fight was long but successfull in the end.

#10 Posted by BigDaddy81 (310 posts) -

That fight was pretty intense. I was rocking a Commando, had a corrosive rocket launcher, and had a legendary electrical grenade. Even with all that I still had one hell of a battle. They definitely did a better job with bosses this time around.

#11 Posted by hangedtoaster (156 posts) -

I failed the first time trying to take him down, just couldn't bust through his shields. He took off to the Friendship Gulag and I was able to easily mop him up there with no issues whatsoever. I thought it was just scripted that way. Didn't even realize that you could take him down on the dam

#12 Posted by mosespippy (3735 posts) -

My first time trying it I happened to be in a 4 player party and we got tore up pretty bad so it's not a solo problem. We wiped once and on the second try he went to the Friendship Gulag. We even wiped on the badasses that spawned in after he left. My second time through I was in another 4 player party and we took him down in about 40 seconds.

#13 Posted by knitlife (45 posts) -

I had similar difficulty defeating this one solo as a level 15 gunzerker, it was the first time I had to consider something besides a guns blazing strategy. I eventually hid behind a crate and did jumping and shooting. Vv tedious, but got it done. It should be much easier co-op (which is totally worth $4/month with this game IMO)

#14 Posted by _Zombie_ (1462 posts) -

Seems that the common problem players have with him is Zer0.

#15 Posted by mosdl (3223 posts) -

I pretty much kept a lightning sniper/shotgun just for the constructors around, especially since Siren's skill doesn't do much damage to them.

#16 Posted by GunstarRed (4730 posts) -

Yeah, it was the first point I felt like I was getting killed unfairly (playing as zero) I finally got him by spamming my decoy whilst standing behind a pillar shooting him with a powerful shotgun.

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#17 Posted by Vinny_Says (5630 posts) -

hah just wait until you fight the next constructor....I lost at least $20,000 because I went in with no electric weapons (the game just sorta happened to me) and his fucking rocket attacks devastated me.

BTW W4R D3N was hard to beat even with 2 players, so it's not just a solo problem.

#18 Posted by dekkadekkadekka (708 posts) -

I died once on W4R D3N, using Maya. I ran up, immediately got pummelled by stuff. Second time, I used phase lock to knock it's shields out then dumped a corrosive SMG into it.

#19 Posted by churrific (457 posts) -

Lol maybe I got lucky? Beat it on the first try solo. I had an explosive pistol on me that I used on it. I just ran right up to its face and mashed my shoot button. I think it was able to spawn its minions one time, but I just ignored them and kept on mashing the shoot button. All crit shots, and it died without a problem.

#20 Posted by Tennmuerti (7720 posts) -

I don't even remember the Warden encounter as anything significant during my playthrough. Just pummeled into him and rolled over is memory serves.

Now stuff like Dukino's mom, Super Badass Constructors, and later on some enemies on playthrough 2 , that shit can get vicious.

#21 Posted by Law313 (110 posts) -

@HerbieBug said:

So. This thing. It doesn't seem balanced to me. I'm level 14 Zer0. I have an okay corrosive SMG for that level and an alright electricity sniper rifle. Run up, unload three clips worth of the SMG into it's eye, barely take down the shield, get in trouble, run for cover to deal with the respawning minions (infinite spawns?). By the time I've cleared a path back to him, the goddamn shield is fully charged again.

What the hell?

And no, I'm not paying for xbl gold just to beat a boss. D:

edit--- got him, see post below.

I through a shit ton of grenades and he fell instantly. I had the orange colored one that drops multiple "baby" bombs. That grenade mod is just too sick. Not many enemies I can remember will get up and walk away after that- including that homocidal motherfucking robot.

#22 Posted by Dagbiker (6898 posts) -

The first time I tryed to fight him solo I lost like 3 times. then gave up. I regrouped and got some corrosive guns. Got some badassness, and kicked his ass, solo. But I agree, that fight was pretty hard compared to the guys even just down the hall.

#23 Posted by Garfield518 (390 posts) -

I'm surprised people had trouble with his guy, or any boss in BL2, especially as Zero.

Just stealth in, go up to his eye, and unload.

#24 Posted by Dagbiker (6898 posts) -

@Snail: Yah, to play any game online you have to pay for a gold membership. Yes there is a silver membership, but thats just a non gold member, there is only silver and gold. I agree, paying for online is kind of dumb, but people still do, thats why people get so mad about Xbox having so many ads.

One thing Xbox has that I like over PSN is usability. It is much easer to use Xbox then it is to use the playstation menu.

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