Anyone prefer this to War of the Roses? So far I am not impressed, it just feels like a mod and not as tight as WotR. Maybe if there was more progression in the multiplayer it would help.

I've enjoyed it a lot more actually. Combat feels a lot better to me, and the objectives are a lot of fun. I think there is some progression actually, there's clearly some weapons and whatnot to be unlocked for each class, but I'm not sure how to see your progress in game, or if that's implemented yet.

Didn't play either yet, but Chivalry seems more my type of game than WotR based on the footage I've seen.

combat in chivalry is awesome, haven't played WotR though so I can't compare the two, also I can't find any fricken servers for it... have played only with bots so far...

I own WotR and really like the combat and progression in that game. But Chivalry looks pretty decent as well, kinda conflicted if I should purchase it or not since I already have WotR =/

I saw a livestream of this game. I'm definitely getting it. The combat looks amazing to me. I think it looks better than War of the Roses by a mile. I haven't got to play either yet though. I definitely want to play both but I am for sure getting Chivalry.

I'm kind of just shocked that Chivalry is the the second best selling game on Steam right now, ahead of XCOM, Dishonored, Borderlands 2, the new Borderlands 2 DLC, and Mark of the Ninja.

People are actually talking about all of the aforementioned games. Who the fuck are these tens of thousands of people who are losing their goddamn minds over Chivalry and buying it day 1? I'm not trying to insult the game, I just honestly hadn't heard a thing about it anywhere but Rock Paper Shotgun, and I don't recall them claiming it was the best game ever or anything.

@BisonHero: The top sellers page is the only reason I even know this game exists, and I absolutely mirror your confusion about the whole thing. It's gotta be selling a lot, especially for something I've never even heard of. Borderlands 2, XCOM, and Dishonored are all really popular games right now and lower than this (admittedly, the pass for BL2 trumps them all).

@Giantstalker: I know, right! Mount & Blade, while popular, is still kind of obscure and niche, and while this game looks to be of higher graphical quality, it's still indie, a weird niche genre, and PC-only, so I have no goddamn idea how so many people know about it and are buying it. Seriously, XCOM is like the hottest shit around right now, and I cannot fathom how random medieval PC game is suddenly outselling it. Is every single gamer in Europe buying this game or something?

Baffling.

@BisonHero said:

@Giantstalker: I know, right! Mount & Blade, while popular, is still kind of obscure and niche, and while this game looks to be of higher graphical quality, it's still indie, a weird niche genre, and PC-only, so I have no goddamn idea how so many people know about it and are buying it. Seriously, XCOM is like the hottest shit around right, and I cannot fathom how random medieval PC game is suddenly outselling it. Is every single gamer in Europe buying this game or something?

Baffling.

Age of Chivalry. That's probably why.

@SlasherMan: I know that mod was pretty popular, but I'm still shocked that it has enough pull that it is topping games from major studios.

Totalbiscuit said he might do a comparison video of them. He seemed to like both despite their differences, so a comparison by someone who enjoys both (and not from someone who likes one but not the other, which seems to be all I can find so far) should be interesting to watch.

@Giantstalker: I know, right! Mount & Blade, while popular, is still kind of obscure and niche, and while this game looks to be of higher graphical quality, it's still indie, a weird niche genre, and PC-only, so I have no goddamn idea how so many people know about it and are buying it. Seriously, XCOM is like the hottest shit around right, and I cannot fathom how random medieval PC game is suddenly outselling it. Is every single gamer in Europe buying this game or something?

Baffling.

@Ben_H said:

Edit: also, Chivalry is below Xcom for me.

Yeah, it has gone below XCOM on my page as well. But when I took that screenshot 3 hours ago, that's where it stood.

Chivalry was more enjoyable on a second play last night. It is very different than WotR, and I'd say the combat moves faster (or at least I or my opponent died quicker, which might just be a reflection on new player skillset). I still am not a fan of the archery in it, I think WotR does a better job in that aspect. Chivalry does look great, and the modes are varied.

Im still not sure what one i want to grab and waiting for a QL to help ...

I've not played WotR but it seems very similar to Mount and Blade. Chivalry is more arcadey, accessible and fun. It has a superficially simple but effective melee system where you have three attack types (slash, overhead swing or stab), a kick, the ability to block or parry and a dodge (which may be restricted to the man-at-arms class?). This is a good thing, as it means the game relies more on reactions, skill and understanding of the mechanics and of the right time to use each ability, rather than having to wrap your head around the weird controls better than your opponent, which is the problem with Mount and Blade (and why I greatly prefer the gunpowder-based Napoleonic Wars mod over the melee combat era game). This means you can get locked into long yet fast-paced, tense duels, with each of you strafing, dodging and blocking your opponent's attacks with aplomb, trying to predict when your opponent will attack so you can find and opening. In this respect it almost feels like a boxing game, mechanically. Also, there's nice differentiation between the four classes - I like the Knight class most.

Where M&B and WotR are more like semi-simulatorish type games - a medieval version of Red Orchestra or something like that - this is more a fast-paced arena-based first person brawler.

Being decapitated is also funny, and it's really satisfying to cave someone's skull in.

I've played WotR and enjoyed it but the footage i've seen of Chivalry just looks like a generic mod to me. If they release a demo for it i may check it out. looking forward to the Giant Bomb QL of it tomorrow.

I played about an hour last night. This game is bonkers. So much crazy crap just happens, though that is because few people knew what they were doing. I did a double decapitation by accident when I was playing the Vanguard class. I just swung my sword and two dudes ran into it and both lost their heads. I'm pretty sure if you get decapitated when you die you can see your own body but I'm not 100% sure on that, it might have just been someone else's but my head did fall faster than normal.

@DizzyMedal said:

Totalbiscuit said he might do a comparison video of them. He seemed to like both despite their differences, so a comparison by someone who enjoys both (and not from someone who likes one but not the other, which seems to be all I can find so far) should be interesting to watch.

Funny you should mention that. :P

For those not interested in watching a 20 minute video...

Anyway... I don't have either game myself, but I'm not surprised Chivalry's supposedly selling quite well due to it being a new retail version for a popular source mod.

I will say as a spectator, I'm pretty sure I'd prefer Chivalry over War of the Roses- just because the melee combat in War of the Roses from what I've seen looks really weird and off-putting compared to Chivalry's. (Though the first-person jousting/cavalry charges in War of the Roses look fun... :P )

I own and have played both a little bit. Gotta say, from my limited experience so far, War of the Roses is the much superior game. Chivalry just seems like a strafe-fest. It's like a huge counterstrike knife fight.

I have both and I like Chivalry more. For all the extra control WotR gives you over your blade it doesn't actually seem meaningfully deeper.

Both games seem pretty bad-ass.

The constant man-cries in Chivalry would do my nut in, though.

This game is serious catharsis. Swinging off about 8 years of Bush. Neither perfect nor fluid nor intellectual- but they succeeded in giving the combat a heaviness. One feels the disadvantages of 60 pounds of armor. Reminds me of the last fight in Polanski's Macbeth:

@dross24: I think that might be the first and only realistic medieval duel I've ever seen in a movie.

Game is so good. Also War of the Roses online is pretty much dead or dying at this point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1B9sHBbyhs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxFl4MNvdJs

The constant man-cries in Chivalry would do my nut in, though.