Decided to give the Fifa 11 demo one more play before I went to buy the full game because was still a litte unsure. Fifa is usually a day one purchase for me but how 10 looked really bugged me. These games reuse so much, menus, assets, hardly ever adding anything new. (This years new animations are nice though.) Honestly I think sports games just look bad, not just fifa, I play Madden, Tiger woods etc too. They're not horrible, but all they have to do is a pitch and the player models, no enviroments, nothing crazy, and this is the best they can come up with? Look at shit like Final Fantasy, Bioshock etc. They have to do so much more and it all looks so much better. I was playing Juventus and saw something that pretty much summed up what I dislike about sports games. On 10 there was a hair model that was messed up, dudes head would clip through it so it looked like he had a bold patch. Did they fix it? no they use the exact same hair model, no fix, still fucked up. Fuzzy edges, shorts clipping through shorts. Maybe its an age thing, cause I'd used to buy these games every year but I'd rather fuck a duck than fork out forty quid for this lazy exuse of a game this year. Probably not a big deal for most people but little stuff like that bugs the hell out of me. Guess I'll do the same as I did with Madden and skip a year. Amazes me the flak that L4D2 when shit like this still goes on.

Decided to give the Fifa 11 demo one more play before I went to buy the full game because was still a litte unsure. Fifa is usually a day one purchase for me but how 10 looked really bugged me. These games reuse so much, menus, assets, hardly ever adding anything new. (This years new animations are nice though.) Honestly I think sports games just look bad, not just fifa, I play Madden, Tiger woods etc too. They're not horrible, but all they have to do is a pitch and the player models, no enviroments, nothing crazy, and this is the best they can come up with? Look at shit like Final Fantasy, Bioshock etc. They have to do so much more and it all looks so much better. I was playing Juventus and saw something that pretty much summed up what I dislike about sports games. On 10 there was a hair model that was messed up, dudes head would clip through it so it looked like he had a bold patch. Did they fix it? no they use the exact same hair model, no fix, still fucked up. Fuzzy edges, shorts clipping through shorts. Maybe its an age thing, cause I'd used to buy these games every year but I'd rather fuck a duck than fork out forty quid for this lazy exuse of a game this year. Probably not a big deal for most people but little stuff like that bugs the hell out of me. Guess I'll do the same as I did with Madden and skip a year. Amazes me the flak that L4D2 when shit like this still goes on.

Ever tried playing a cricket game? They always try innovative new things to keep their game fresh and different.
 
Pity they all suck.

" @dbz1995: Yes actually. Played the EA ones on PS2 and that Brian Lara one on 360. "

I think Fifa 11 looks rather good,but probably cuz im a PC gamer and pretty much have waited for about 5 years for them to release an actual good game instead of the PS2 ports and slightly updated PS2 ports of 09 and 10,so im pretty happy with this years game.

say that to MLB 10 The Show 
    

A ton of AI control programming goes into sports games, more than most other genres in fact. Stuff like player movement, body contact and interaction, so I'm not surprised there are hiccups every now and again. Also these are annual games, so they probably decide to add features and update player/team stats instead of improving all the art assets etc.  
 
I can understand your frustration though, I've seen a ton of clipping and other graphical hiccups but the AI is doing a ton of work and to be honest the camera doesn't zoom in that often for me to care. Oh, and the fact I never buy sports games full price on release probably helps.

" @TwoOneFive: lol you're funny
 
@DaSoul: It's not that it looks bad. It's that all they have to do it a stadium and some player models, these games should like ridiculousy good. That and the lazyness of the devs. "

You say they "only" have to make the models and a pitch. And then you go and compare it to Bioshock. I'm sorry, but that's silly. Bioshock has no more than 15 (I doubt it's even more than 10) unique models, where in FIFA they have to model hundreds of players (Hell, maybe even over thousand) and every player has to looks like the footballer in real life. I won't even comment on the animations and other aspects that make FIFA so goddamn Epic.
 
Maybe you're right about the menus, but the one we have works, so why change it? You don't really need a Idon'tknowwhatkindof UI, it's not like you need a huge immersion like in let's say RPGs or something. As long as it doesn't have the Windows-like UI, I'm happy. In fact, I find the UI in FIFA rather Elegant.

" You say they "only" have to make the models and a pitch. And then you go and compare it to Bioshock. I'm sorry, but that's silly. Bioshock has no more than 15 (I doubt it's even more than 10) unique models, where in FIFA they have to model hundreds of players (Hell, maybe even over thousand) and every player has to looks like the footballer in real life.  "

" @valrog said:

" You say they "only" have to make the models and a pitch. And then you go and compare it to Bioshock. I'm sorry, but that's silly. Bioshock has no more than 15 (I doubt it's even more than 10) unique models, where in FIFA they have to model hundreds of players (Hell, maybe even over thousand) and every player has to looks like the footballer in real life.  "

Not to be a dick but you have absolutely no idea how modeling works. "

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" @valrog said:

" You say they "only" have to make the models and a pitch. And then you go and compare it to Bioshock. I'm sorry, but that's silly. Bioshock has no more than 15 (I doubt it's even more than 10) unique models, where in FIFA they have to model hundreds of players (Hell, maybe even over thousand) and every player has to looks like the footballer in real life.  "

Not to be a dick but you have absolutely no idea how modeling works. "

Enlighten me. "

NBA 2K11 is gorgeous.

I always thought the sports games looked pretty. Maybe not NHL 2k but any other sport game looks nice.

NHL 11 looks great and plays great.

Sports games start to look worse as you add more player models on the field. Madden & FIFA look the worst & I think EA is just lazy with the Tiger Woods game. NBA 2K11 looks fantastic though and so do the NHL games.