from what we can tell from the trailer, this looks like some kind of "Horde Mode - The Game". it doesn't seem like there will be any PvP. i could be wrong about that, but i am going to assume that's the case for the sake of argument.
it seems like in general, PvP games are attracting a fanbase of sore losers, constant complaining, bitching, moaning, etc, on every platform, in every game.
let's take Gears as a relevant example. i'm not so interested in PvP in Gears 3, but in my opinion, i don't see what else Epic could possibly have done to improve upon the Gears formula than what is in Gears 3. seriously, it is GOOD. but visit the official gears forum or any other forum, and you will find endless bitching and moaning. "i hate the sawed off" "i hate the rifles and noobs that use rifles" "i hate everything but the gnasher" "i hate the shotguns" etc etc etc. gears 3 has a LOT going for it, but epic doesn't seem to be getting much credit from the PvP gears community. it's just endless bitching.
i don't understand what epic is supposed to do to satisfy these people. they tried making the "alpha" playlist to satisfy them, and guess what? like 200 people played it. they put in dedicated servers, and all they hear is "i hate the sawed off." they nerf the sawed off and all they hear is "i hate the retro lancer".
it's not just gears. MW3 is endless bitching about "i hate the shotguns" "i hate the campers" "i hate assassin pro" "lag compensation" blah blah blah. BF3 is all "i hate the bush monsters" "hit detection is horrible" "omg shopper whores". etc etc etc
and it's not just console shooters. http://www.giantbomb.com/dota-2/61-32887/wow-people-can-be-aholes/35-528888/#73 it's like every PvP game available now is populated by people whining and bitching and crying.
and POOR SPORTS. when someone gets killed in a shooter, it's never because he was aiming bad or made a stupid mistake or exposed himself. and it's never because the other guy was just better or aimed better or had better tactics. it's because the developers gave the other guy an OP weapon or because the maps suck or because the devs screwed up matchmaking and put noobs on my team or whatever.
HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO SATISFY THESE PEOPLE?
i don't think it's a coincidence that epic's next IP would seem to be coop-focused and not PvP. horde mode has been a huge success. thousands of people every night in public matches, and who knows how many more in private matches. and thousands of people in coop campaign. and compared to the PvP crowd, they seem to be actually enjoying themselves and not bitching and moaning and blowing up the forums with "i hate this" "i hate that" "nerf this nerf that" "GNASHER ONLY PLZ" "i am entitled to this and that".
i'm sure epic knows that this IP will never make as much money as another macho PvP shooter. but at some point don't you think they get sick of the endless complaining and negativity associated with that type of game? they are human beings too.
i wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that people at epic, after watching the gears PvP community reacting to Gears 3, said "you know what, fuck these people. let's make a game for the horde fans and coop fans that seem to appreciate our hard work".
anyways, as someone whose friends list is almost entirely populated by people i met in rainbow six vegas terrorist hunts and left 4 dead and horde mode, i'm looking forward to getting more information about this game.
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