Should these three pages be merged?

http://www.giantbomb.com/ninja-gaiden/61-20744/
http://www.giantbomb.com/ninja-gaiden/61-1653/
http://www.giantbomb.com/ninja-gaiden/61-20745/

I think so. A section could be added to the main article about "other versions" or "version differences."

I dont think so. I think they are significantly different that they are available to have multiple pages.

i think the first two maybe. but not the third one because it is a different version of the game

The first two definitely should be merged.

You know, people said the same of Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth. I was fucking pissed when they merged it with the original Valkyrie Profile's page.

If this merge doesn't happen, the people with power are hypocrites.

There's no reason at all that they should be merged. They're all entirely different games and it shouldn't matter if the names are the same. Not only is there a sizeable amount of different content, they're completely. different. games.

Wasn't this exact same topic brought up and discussed with Star Trek 25th Anniversary and Batman? Both encompass at least three separate games with the same names but share very little in common. Hell, look at Strider for NES and Arcade or Bionic Commando for NES and Arcade. or Rygar NES vs Rygar Arcade vs Rygar PS2. The list goes on and on.

Please quit trying to combine obviously different games based on the titles alone.

edit - Actually, do yourself a favor and dig through this article sometime to educate yourself on just how wildly different these games are.

there is a special thread where you should post this actually

http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/delete-combine-requests/34/various-duplicateserrors/9275/#35

"There's no reason at all that they should be merged. They're all entirely different games and it shouldn't matter if the names are the same. Not only is there a sizeable amount of different content, they're completely. different. games.

Wasn't this exact same topic brought up and discussed with Star Trek 25th Anniversary and Batman? Both encompass at least three separate games with the same names but share very little in common. Hell, look at Strider for NES and Arcade or Bionic Commando for NES and Arcade. or Rygar NES vs Rygar Arcade vs Rygar PS2. The list goes on and on.

Please quit trying to combine obviously different games based on the titles alone.

edit - Actually, do yourself a favor and dig through this article sometime to educate yourself on just how wildly different these games are."

These aren't 3 different versions of the same game; they're 3 different games with the same title. If these 3 games were to be merged, why not merge the Xbox Ninja Gaiden with them? Obviously not a good idea.

I do think ports, enhanced releases, and even remakes should share the same page in most cases, but it's probably a better idea to look at it case by case like Wikipedia does instead of trying to set a strict standard. If all the changes made to the game can be summed up in a paragraph, why bother giving it its own page? Likewise, if you can write... say... 1500 words on just the new content/changes, creating a new page for it might be appropriate so the original's page doesn't get cluttered up with all this content some readers have no interest in.

But that's just my own opinion; I don't know what the staff's official stance is on this.

In this case though, there isn't even any room for debate. They're different games and shouldn't be merged.

Sleepy_Insomniac said:

"You know, people said the same of Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth. I was fucking pissed when they merged it with the original Valkyrie Profile's page.

If this merge doesn't happen, the people with power are hypocrites."

Which is why there should be a section in the article about "version differences," instead of three separate articles. That way it reduces clutter."

Sleepy_Insomniac said:

"You know, people said the same of Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth. I was fucking pissed when they merged it with the original Valkyrie Profile's page.

If this merge doesn't happen, the people with power are hypocrites."

Why were you pissed? Is it because you thought it would be a good idea to write up your own plot summary on the remake's page even though the original's page already had one and yours got lost in the merge? Well no offense, but you should've known better than to write duplicate information. And if yours did get lost in the merge, it means that whichever staff member did the merge thought your work was inferior.

If you do run into a page of an enhanced release/port/remake, solely focus on the changes made between the games, don't copy-paste, and simply link the reader to the original's article for everything else.

Also, just in case anyone wants to bring this up--yes, I did add a page for Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories to the database a few weeks ago, which sorta contradicts my own words. In retrospect, I probably should've just added a section about it in the article of the original KH: CoM, but I didn't think too much about it in my excitement about the game."

"The people who warned me that a merge would be taking place recommended adding a section noting the changes and differences between the original. Upon hearing that, I did and the pages were still merged using written portions without giving credit (wiki points) to me. Needless to say, I was pissed. And yes, I think these pages should be merged as well as many on this site but I don't want to be the outrageous zealot demanding justice for being wronged."

"StarFoxA said:

Which is why there should be a section in the article about "version differences," instead of three separate articles. That way it reduces clutter."

All of the games I mentioned are not different versions. They're completely different games that just have the same titles.

Not sure how to spell that out any clearer for you. I mean, what's next? Do you want to merge all of the games in a franchise into a single entry so that it further reduces clutter?

How do you handle Ninja Gaiden Shadow, then? It was released in the US as a Ninja Gaiden game, but it's a Gameboy port of Shadow of the Ninja. What about Alex Kid in Shinobi World in relation to Alex Kid and Shinobi?

What about Metal Gear: Ghost Babel? Do you advocate merging it with the Metal Gear Solid article simply because it shares the same title in its US release? Apparently so, because you're more than willing to lump games into the same pile when their only similarity is their title, nevermind the fact that everything else about them is entirely different.

You're just way too merge happy, man."

I admit that merging the NES and arcade games might be a bit of a stretch, but at least the Master System version should be merged with the NES one."

1. completely different graphics
2. different gameplay physics and quirks
3. entirely different levels
4. were developed by different teams
5. were released years apart
6. different story lines

I admit that merging the NES and arcade games might be a bit of a stretch, but at least the Master System version should be merged with the NES one."

"StarFoxA said:

I admit that merging the NES and arcade games might be a bit of a stretch, but at least the Master System version should be merged with the NES one."

No, it doesn't matter if they use similar gameplay mechanics, they're completely different games. Just look at the list of differences roushimsx posted.

Would you merge Super Mario Bros. with Super Mario Bros. The Lost Levels just because they're more of the same? This is very close to what you're currently suggesting.

Or how about merging Super Mario Bros. 2 USA with Super Mario Bros. The Lost Levels (the actual Super Mario Bros. 2) just because they had the same title in the first country they were released in? No, not happening.

It would actually make more sense to merge Super Mario Bros. 2 USA and Doki Doki Panic because they're the same game with character swaps, but I wouldn't want that either because they were marketed as different games.
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They weren't released in the same year; they were released 4 years apart and developed by different teams. In fact, Ninja Gaiden II AND III were already out for the NES by the time Ninja Gaiden for the Master System was released.

And yes, I would like to see games sharing the same name released around the same time actually get their own pages if they're different from eachother.

For example, the PC and console versions of Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban are all the same Action/Adventures while the GBA version is a turn-based RPG. They only loosely follow the same story, and would actually both need to have their own plot summary written for them. There's no reason why they should share the same page.

Not only do the Master System and NES versions share names, they were released in the same year, share the same gameplay mechanics, and much more.

"And yes, I would like to see games sharing the same name released around the same time actually get their own pages if they're different from eachother."

i changed my mind. After reading that article he posted, I am totally with roushimsx. these pages shouldn't be combined