There needs to be a "haters gon' hate" gif of Patrick.
Patrick is the shit. Can he sometimes say some dumb stuff? Sure. But so has Jeff and every other member of the crew. For whatever reason everything Patrick says is put under a microscope. Plus - Yo. At the end of the day this is all about video games. Chill the fuck out and learn to ignore whatever you dislike.
Weird shit from some bodies from the anonymous internet. Where you can get cheap attention with no retribution. Where anybody who is sick in mind or soul to some degree can vomit on others. Who would of guessed?
Generally the World sucks, that should be evident anyways if you look around. Kudos to those who answered of their worth and decent heart. They are the ones who deserve the attention.
It needed to be said, so good on you. Patrick gets much more shit than he deserves, which is dumb because he's kinda done nothing but good for the site including his feature stories, videos and dump trucks. Hell, he covers games that none of the other guys would.
The shitty excuse for a person who sent that voicemail really needs to re-evaluate his life if he's sending that kind of crap to people. If someone you've never met makes you that angry, I don't know what to tell you other than step back and chill the fuck out.
The same thing that was said in that clip has been posted on this site before. It's bullshit, but it's also why the mod team have taken a pro-active stance against trying to move as many idiots like this off-site as possible. Due to a variety of factors I think we're seeing less direct vitriol spewed towards Patrick, but there are still people there and there who will take a jab at him because they can't understand things like why thoughtful indie games might be worth covering or why we might want to be empathetic towards other people online. I really salute what the guy does and continue to wholeheartedly believe that calling out crap like this is important.
Man thats rough. I read the reaction on his tumblr but I didnt think it was that bad until I heard it myself. It's sad to see someone who puts up so much content and seems to put in so much work into the site to be given shit like this in return. Imagine working so hard on an essay/report for someone just to rip it up in your face. I definately have more respect for Patrick for still staying motivated to put up content for us.
That is why we need our real names, addresses connected with accounts. You need to to be trackaable and should not be able to hide under anonymity . People need to make responsible for their actions just like in real life. Without people just go amok because many people are assholes on the internet.
@darji: You've just kinda proven that having your identity out there is not a deterrent considering TB still has a massive following after that ridiculous hissy fit he and his wife threw over basically nothing but their own mistakes. It's not just about people being associated with the shit they spew online. It's a much more complex issue than that. The massive amount of bullshit that goes on in any alley of the internet is indicative of a completely diseased societal conscience. Just because the internet is a safe place for symptoms to manifest doesn't mean the internet is to blame.
@darji: Well, TB just wrote a pretty long explanation/rant on his own subreddit about this very issue, and admits to having issues with being able to handle all the negativity that gets thrown his way. Since this is just a stream of responses to other people, I have no idea what exactly they said to him, so out of context twitter responses are kind of all sorts of useless, unless you are pointing out that an internet famous dude is an asshole, and well, so what? He admits that. I really think you should take the time to read this where he talks about his mental and physical health and about his own issues, as well as what he deals with online. I think that it's important to realize that some people may be able to "take the heat" of a ton of negative comments a day, but some people can't. We also shouldn't judge them on that. I appreciate a guy who says "yeah, I fucked up and here's why" as opposed to a guy who probably wouldn't admit that he made a poor judgment call.
In this case, I think Patrick handles stuff very well considering what people say/write to him and I feel sorry that the dude has to deal with it. I feel sorry that people like Phil Fish and TB have to deal with it too, but their responses are less elegant than what I see from Patrick. It actually astounds me when people don't crack under the pressure and can handle the vitriol well. I would expect more people to lash out considering the stream of hate and nasty comments. I doubt I could keep up such a good face if I were somehow popular on the internet and then fostered a hate brigade.
@jadegl: This was just a poor example of what I wanted to say. Basically the Internet is a almost lawless place for privacy. I can go to every site a person made and leave anonymous comments and say stuff like that and harass and insult or even stalk these people. It is just much easier to do this with more famous people. In my opinion we really need to get to a point when you have to take responsibility to your actions on the internet. If you would do this in real life you already would get the police on you.
And yes some people handle this very well but some absolutely do not. And even Patrick said that you can ignore tons of comments but there is always one that ruins your day and makes you question what you are doing. We need laws for this kind of stuff. Laws which are easy to execute and as harsh as they need to be to make this stop.
@mercutio123: There probably is, but the equivalent of vigilante justice isn't the answer. Hell, we all know the internet is a bad place, but until WE (that is the entire internet community) begins to see stuff like this as bad, it won't change. People do stuff like this because they know they'll get attention/they're anonymous. There's few ways to get around that. All we can hope to be is a better person to others online, so we're not being "that guy".
I'll probably make a blog post on this sometime next week. This topic hit very close to home for me recently.
Wow people. And i'm not saying wow for the same reasons you are. Ryan Davis is dead. DEAD. DEAD. I'm not saying you shouldn't remember him. But don't cling to his memory in an unhealthy manner. The guy that posted that "offensive clip" (like you guys have never posted, or said anything along those lines... but oh wait, you didn't take Ryan Davis' name in vain...) is just as fixated on Ryan Davis as the majority of posters on this site. I come to this site for opinions and blogs about video games. I don't like seeing it turned into the Ryan Davis memorial, and I don't think he would either. The level of grieving that is going on with you guys is distorted, complicated, prolonged, and ultimately unhealthy. I never met the guy, and have only seen a few of his videos, but only a narcacisst would be ok with the type of attention you shower on him, and he didn't seem like that kind of guy to me.
Yeah, because not wanting someone to make a vile and unnecessary comment is TOTALLY the same thing as erecting giant golden statues of Ryan Davis right? We remember Ryan because he was a great man, and he affected a lot of our lives in ways we didn't think was possible. If you think this site is being turned into a "Ryan Davis Memorial" you really need to get some perspective.
He was, and will always be, someone I look up too. I understand what it means to have a hero that you try and make yourself a better person for. It's OK to remember someone when they meant that much to you. And if there was a solid gold Ryan statue. He'd want it to be flipping the bird, let's be honest.
I listened to the message that guy sent. What a sniveling coward.
@patrickklepek I don't always agree with what you say, but I respect your voice and the way you command it. Keep doing what you do, and don't stop for anything or anyone (you already know that, but I figured I'd show my support).
Does google voice have some sort of caller ID? I'd just post his number on twitter and say, "have at 'em boys."
And no,that doesn't stoop you down to "their level."
Yes. Yes, that's pretty much exactly what it does.
DON'T GIVE ATTENTION SEEKERS ATTENTION. It's not all that complicated a concept. We're all told not to reply to trolls, and to just flag their posts. Instead, Patrick puts this guy on Twitter, and now we have an entire thread devoted to him. This is quite the opposite of not feeding the trolls.
@spaceinsomniac: I do not approve getting back to them and attack them, but I have to disagree about showing what they did.
Thing is, even if Patrick would've not give him attention, he would've received that call (I don't even want to listen to it). As long as he is gonna be working here, he's gonna get hate. It won't stop, even if he stops talking about (like spambot and trolls never cease to exist). Talking about it got him some support, made some people realise how hurtful they can be when they're mean on the internet, and made others realise how much hate he and others can get.
If he would have said nothing, that kind of hate would be his own burden to bear, and nobody would've been there to relativize the hate he got. I don't think anybody deserve that kind of hate, especially not him.
That was... a lot less worse than I was expecting. Still disgusting and unacceptable.
@darji So assume this asshole couldn't hide behind anonymity and we knew his real name, what then? Are we supposed to go to his house and beat him up? Call the cops for using strong language on the internet? Insulting someone? Just sounds like witch hunting.