#1 Posted by robot4me (193 posts) -

If you could get rid of one of the current consoles forever and bring back a console makers that failed to replace them which one would you choose.

Hears why i'm asking. Me and a couple of friends were playing wrestling games on the n64 and fighting games on the dreamcast for new years. We started talking about which game companies we wished still made consoles. I would probably get rid of Microsft Xbox 360 and bring back the Turbografx 16 brand made by Nec. The reason is because MS make very few exclusives and charge for online when no one else does. I feel all gameing companies see us as a $ sign, but Microsoft seem the worst. Also the Turbografx 16 (in japan it would was PC Engine) had a NES style controller with built in turbo switches and some crazy games like bonk. A new console from them might flop, but at least I might get some more classic air zonk shoot em ups.

#2 Posted by SharkEthic (1003 posts) -

I'd get rid of the Nintendo Wii. That is all.

#3 Posted by robot4me (193 posts) -

@SharkEthic: the Nintendo wii is not the current console. If you are hating on the wii to be one of the cool kiddies that'snot cool dude. The wii has a lot more games I love with shitty graphics over the good graphics BS on the ps3 / 360

#4 Posted by SharkEthic (1003 posts) -

@robot4me: I reject your premise and stand by my previous statement.

#5 Posted by Grasu (42 posts) -

@robot4me said:

@SharkEthic: If you are hating on the wii to be one of the cool kiddies that'snot cool dude. The wii has a lot more games I love with shitty graphics over the good graphics BS on the ps3 / 360

Why are you so butthurt?

#6 Posted by Bell_End (1208 posts) -

the vita and replace with the lynx. just for a laugh

#7 Posted by robot4me (193 posts) -

@Grasu: I'm not upset I just kind of dislike trolls.

#8 Edited by believer258 (11565 posts) -

@robot4me said:

@SharkEthic: the Nintendo wii is not the current console. If you are hating on the wii to be one of the cool kiddies that'snot cool dude. The wii has a lot more games I love with shitty graphics over the good graphics BS on the ps3 / 360

Says the guy who's hating on the 360.

Anyway, none of them. There's so much interesting variety on the PC, PS3, and 360 that I don't want to get rid of any of them. Frankly, I would be a very, very happy gamer if Nintendo went the Sega route and stopped making consoles and started releasing their big name games for the PS3, 360, and PC. I'm sorry, I simply do not like the Wii's controller and I don't really want to spend $250 on Nintendo's new sub-par system. The damn thing could barely play Epic Mickey, whereas the 360, an eight year old machine, didn't have any issues running that. That is a serious problem and, frankly, I don't want any of my money going to Nintendo unless they can bring more than Mario and Zelda to the table and can do it with a proper machine, not an underclocked turd.

EDIT: And I motherfucking want the Metroid Prime Trilogy on Steam. NOW.

#9 Posted by musclerider (587 posts) -

This thread is going places.

#10 Posted by robot4me (193 posts) -

@believer258: I play my 360 daily and like it but tell me when MS made more then halo forza fable as exclusives. they throw money around and ghet timed exclusives that fucks every gamer who doesn't own an xbox 360. Please tell me who Besides MS charges for online. Ans fable the journey was dogshit because of the kinect. I see you are just trying to troll because epic mickey was only on the wii. the performance thing wasn't Nintendo's fault because epic mickey was a 3rd party game. Most good wii games let you use a classic controller that looks like a ps3 controller or a gamecube controller. Sorry but metroid will never be on steam. If nintendo stopped making games all everybody would get is greyish turd brown first person shooters or games that have multiplayer killed after 2 years.

#11 Posted by Bell_End (1208 posts) -

@robot4me said:

@believer258: I play my 360 daily and like it but tell me when MS made more then halo forza fable as exclusives. they throw money around and ghet timed exclusives that fucks every gamer who doesn't own an xbox 360. Please tell me who Besides MS charges for online. Ans fable the journey was dogshit because of the kinect. I see you are just trying to troll because epic mickey was only on the wii. the performance thing wasn't Nintendo's fault because epic mickey was a 3rd party game. Most good wii games let you use a classic controller that looks like a ps3 controller or a gamecube controller. Sorry but metroid will never be on steam. If nintendo stopped making games all everybody would get is greyish turd brown first person shooters or games that have multiplayer killed after 2 years.

but all nintendo makes is kids games and boring 2D platformers. i mean come on its not 1996 anymore.

#12 Posted by robot4me (193 posts) -

@HansKisaragi: I love Nintendo myself and don't want a Wii-u. My brother bought one and while playing it I realized I like zelda and smash brothers only but It doesn't justify a console purchase

#13 Posted by believer258 (11565 posts) -

@robot4me said:

@believer258: I play my 360 daily and like it but tell me when MS made more then halo forza fable as exclusives. they throw money around and ghet timed exclusives that fucks every gamer who doesn't own an xbox 360. Please tell me who Besides MS charges for online. Ans fable the journey was dogshit because of the kinect. I see you are just trying to troll because epic mickey was only on the wii. the performance thing wasn't Nintendo's fault because epic mickey was a 3rd party game. Most good wii games let you use a classic controller that looks like a ps3 controller or a gamecube controller. Sorry but metroid will never be on steam. If nintendo stopped making games all everybody would get is greyish turd brown first person shooters or games that have multiplayer killed after 2 years.

Is it worth it? Is it really?

...no, it isn't. But let's tear into it anyway.

I'm not going to defend Microsoft. I left their system for the PC because I never felt treated that well as a customer. I always felt like they expected me to blindly give them money instead of making my own decisions about what to and what not to buy. Still, timed exclusives don't "fuck every gamer". Everyone still gets those exclusives, it's just that 360 gets them first because MS pays for it. 360 people pay for their online and they get their DLC before anyone else. Big deal, you can wait. If you bring up Skyrim, note that particular issue is because the PS3 has serious issues with Skyrim and Bethesda didn't want to release DLC that didn't work.

Fable the Journey was going to be crap with or without the Kinect. Fable 3, from all I've heard of it, is also a steaming pile of crap.

The performance was Nintendo's fault in part. A big part, mind you - the Wii's processor is severely underclocked and it is causing performance issues with more than one third party game as the Wii U livestream illustrated. Note that these are third party games that have been proven to work mostly without issue on the 360 and PS3. And no, I don't give a damn about Epic Mickey. I just noted its severe issues on the Wii U.

I'm not entirely up to date on the Wii's library because what has there been to care about in the past few years that isn't made by Nintendo? But what games support playing with the Classic controller or Gamecube controller aside from Super Smash Bros. Brawl? Metroid Prime 3 didn't. Mario Galaxy didn't. Skyward Sword didn't. Twilight Princess may have but I'm not entirely certain.

I know that Metroid will never be on Steam. I was expressing a wish, not something that's going to happen. I'd really like to play those games on a good PC in 1080p without a controller, because even the original Metroid Prime is still a gorgeous game that, if given a bit of texture work, some anti-aliasing, and played in a high resolution at 60 frames, would be absolutely stunning. Yeah, Dolphin, trust me I know about that, but I'm talking about playing it natively.

I don't want Nintendo to stop making games. I want Nintendo to stop making shitty consoles with stupid gimmicks and start making good games on platforms that I care about, or I want them to make me care about their consoles again by not throttling the processor or third parties. I really like Nintendo and that's why I criticize them so much. They can do so, so much better than they're doing right now.

As for your final comment, about turd brown shooters. Yeah... you should look around you. Most of the games that anyone gave a damn about this year were not turd brown shooters, with the possible exception of Spec Ops the Line and, hey, that was both set in Dubai and had a pretty dark story, and even then all of the stuff I've seen in it has some color. Hell, for that matter, name some turd brown shooters released in the past, say, five years. You could probably name some, but I guarantee that I can disprove most of what you'll think of.

To bring this back around to "on-topic" - all of the above really prove why I'd like to see the Wii U disappear and see Nintendo make games for other, better designed platforms.

#14 Posted by Grasu (42 posts) -

@robot4me said:

@Grasu: I'm not upset I just kind of dislike trolls.

Replying to me twice? Thx for the attention I guess. He didnt say wii sucks, he simply answered your question regarding what console should he give up on. Were you expecting everyone to say PS3 and 360?

#15 Posted by SharkEthic (1003 posts) -

@Grasu said:

@robot4me said:

@Grasu: I'm not upset I just kind of dislike trolls.

Replying to me twice? Thx for the attention I guess. He didnt say wii sucks, he simply answered your question regarding what console should he give up on. Were you expecting everyone to say PS3 and 360?

The Wii absolutely sucks, though. Despite throwing troll around like it's the word of the day, I genuinely believe that it is one of the worst consoles of the past 15-20 years.

#16 Posted by Marcsman (3094 posts) -

Bring back any Neo Geo system

#17 Posted by Demoskinos (14520 posts) -

I want to see what the world would be like if the 32x actually took off. ALTERNATE REALITIES!

#18 Posted by Orbitz89 (229 posts) -

I wish the 6th generation of consoles didn't end. I'd sacrifice this one in a heartbeat to re-live the early to mid 2000's.

But there are those rose tinted glasses again..

#19 Posted by C0V3RT (1338 posts) -

If I'm answering this a few months ago, the right answer is the Wii. It was by far the least played of it's generation, I felt as if the illusion of motion control was poorly implemented, and a lot of their first party titles I loved as a child seemed to be stuck in neutral. But, the jury is still out on the Wii U, so I'll say get rid of the 3DS and Vita. They're both fine, competent devices, but with phone/tablet gaming becoming what it's become, a dedicated handheld is no longer a necessity. As for what I'd bring back? Christ...um...none really but for the sake of answering, have Sega put out another console with the condition they actually market it appropriately.

#20 Posted by GunslingerPanda (4608 posts) -

I'd kill off the Wii and bring back the Gamecube so all the Wii games would have been made without shitty motion controls.

#21 Posted by Dacnomaniac (437 posts) -

Since it's officially not a thing anymore I'd bring back the PS2, and say bye to the Wii.

#22 Posted by Jack268 (3387 posts) -

Sony and replace with Nokia 
 
We all know they were better cellphone makers to begin with

#23 Posted by WickedFather (1730 posts) -

Goodbye 360 means goodbye achievements and games that never learned to smile. Replace with... pffff, anything.

#24 Posted by Azteck (7450 posts) -

@robot4me: Why ask this question if you can't handle people not liking the Wii? There are legitimate reasons for not liking the Wii or the Wii U, just as there are reasons for liking it. It's called personal preference. Respect it, or don't ask questions that are bound to offend you.

For the record, I agree with and

#25 Posted by Video_Game_King (35838 posts) -

@believer258 said:

EDIT: And I motherfucking want the Metroid Prime Trilogy on Steam. NOW.

You know that's not gonna happen, right?

As for right now, I'd get rid of...the PS3? Since I don't own it? And put in its place the...Dreamcast? I guess? There are some cool games on the Dreamcast.

#26 Posted by SharkEthic (1003 posts) -

@WickedFather said:

Goodbye 360 means goodbye achievements and games that never learned to smile. Replace with... pffff, anything.

I like my consoles beaten down by life, straight out of rehab and with with a serious grudge against it's parents.

#27 Posted by Funzzo (834 posts) -

@Marcsman said:

Bring back any Neo Geo system

Yep.

#28 Posted by MrCaptain (363 posts) -

@SharkEthic said:

I'd get rid of the Nintendo Wii. That is all.

Agreed. And the phantom would be fun to see.

#29 Posted by Grillbar (1792 posts) -

@robot4me said:

@SharkEthic: the Nintendo wii is not the current console. If you are hating on the wii to be one of the cool kiddies that'snot cool dude. The wii has a lot more games I love with shitty graphics over the good graphics BS on the ps3 / 360

well no the wii is not really a current console but you you cant really dismiss the wii u yet since it have not been out for that long and would really not stand a fighting chance against the ps3/xbox360. but i would personally inculde the wii as a curent one for that reason. also then the choice is between ps3 and xbox and then we get all fanboyism out of it. instead of a discussion.

i would also like to remove the wii, there are some games there that as fine. but there is also was a ton of shitty and pointless games on there and as the usual Nintendo way a lot of rehash of the same games over used yet again.

sure there are bad games on every console. i own a ps3 due to the fact that i love it i was thinking about buying a xbox for a few exclusives that i found to be fantastic, at least from what i saw, and i also understand why some people would rather have the xbox over the ps3, they are fairly similar. though i agree on the fact that you have to pay a monthly subscription just to be able to play online and still get adds thrown in you face sucks big time. the only reason i diddent buy a xbox was really just because im mainly a pc guy and the ps3 suits my console needs.

the was only 1 game that i wanted that was for the wii and that was the rythm heaven games and i can get that on my ds

there are no specific console i want back but i would love to see what sega could have done if they diddent have that huge downfall.

#30 Posted by believer258 (11565 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

@believer258 said:

EDIT: And I motherfucking want the Metroid Prime Trilogy on Steam. NOW.

You know that's not gonna happen, right?

As for right now, I'd get rid of...the PS3? Since I don't own it? And put in its place the...Dreamcast? I guess? There are some cool games on the Dreamcast.

'Course, It's a first party Nintendo game. It's never gonna happen and if I want to play those games in a higher resolution, I have to use Dolphin. I just think those games could look and play a whole hell of a lot better than they do right now, and that's saying something when you consider that they still look fantastic and they still play wonderfully on the Gamecube. And, all right, they play fine on the Wii-motes as well, but I don't like the Wii-mote.

#31 Posted by fuzzybunny566 (448 posts) -

remove PlayStation 3, bring back Turbografx-16

#32 Edited by BestUsernameEver (4825 posts) -

@musclerider said:

This thread is going places.

Yeeah, asking a game forum which console to replace and put in your favored one really leads to rational, logical discussion.

#33 Edited by BestUsernameEver (4825 posts) -

If the PS2 didn't have so many great games, based on hardware alone, I'd replace the PS2 with the dreamcast.

#34 Posted by TyCobb (1944 posts) -

I would kill off the PS3 or any of the Wiis for the Dreamcast. I really would have liked to see where that console would have gone had they not thrown in the towel so quickly. I owned more Dreamcast games and had more fun with it than the PS3 or the Wii. I've had the PS3 for 4 years and still only have like 4 games for it.

#35 Posted by 71Ranchero (2673 posts) -

I wouldn't get rid of any system. You would have to be a complete idiot to wish a system to be gone. Gamers play games, not consoles.

#36 Posted by TyCobb (1944 posts) -

@Atramentous said:

I wouldn't get rid of any system. You would have to be a complete idiot to wish a system to be gone. Gamers play games, not consoles.

But, if a console doesn't really have any games you are interested in then why not wish it away and hope for something else to take its place?

#37 Posted by 71Ranchero (2673 posts) -

@TyCobb said:

@Atramentous said:

I wouldn't get rid of any system. You would have to be a complete idiot to wish a system to be gone. Gamers play games, not consoles.

But, if a console doesn't really have any games you are interested in then why not wish it away and hope for something else to take its place?

I would be hard pressed to find a console that didn't have at least a single game(if not many)that I could enjoy.

#38 Posted by Bourbon_Warrior (4523 posts) -

Wii U is so boring it can fuck off and die.

#39 Edited by jeffrud (382 posts) -

The Gamecube was pretty goddamn amazing, guys. But to really answer the question, nix Microsoft and replace it with Trip motherfuckin' Hawkins and dat 3DO.

@Jack268 said:

Sony and replace with Nokia We all know they were better cellphone makers to begin with

And this man is a genius.

#40 Posted by egg (1450 posts) -

it would be neat to see PSP stick in for another gen

#41 Posted by Nightriff (4866 posts) -

Any sega console because I never got a chance, if I had to pick one? Saturn because the Panzer Dragoon Series is something that I want to play but way to high of price to jump in