Discussing sex and gender in the industry: Why so toxic?

@hailinel: I think the term social justice warrior is actually quite useful. I don't use it as a pejorative but as a short-hand for a type of person and way of thinking. We need some type of words to describe schools of thought and SJW is as good as any; although I'd happily adopt an alternative if it became popular.

@hailinel: I don't necessarily consider SJW's bad journalists; just a group of people who ascribe to a general way of thinking about the world - and I happen to disagree with them on certain things. I think you're probably right that some people dismiss others when they use the term; but we need to call them something don't we? Imagine every-time you wanted to say something about conservatives or liberals you had to explain conservatism and liberalism. It would make conversations considerably longer and repetitive; we need short-hand words that represent groups of people and their ideas or else discussion becomes impossible. I have respect and even admiration for many people who have been labelled 'SJW'; I just disagree with them and use the term because it makes life easier.

The term SJW is useful in the same way words like 'conservative', 'liberal', 'feminist', 'evangelical', or 'secularist' are useful. They represent groups of people and their ideas; and without them conversation would be much more challenging. I think I agree that the term might make the person saying it look like a dick but I don't know of any alternative where everyone is on the same page.

@musai: I don't know what equations I can add.

If you're part of Group A, stop and grow the fuck up already.

If you're part of Group B, do not rise to Group A's bullshit.

If you're part of Group C, stop judging yourself by the quality of your intentions, and critically think about the effects of your actions.

If you're part of Group D, don't whitewash Group A's bullshit and don't automatically assume Group C can't make a valid point.

If you're part of Group E, there's somewhere on the internet where video game fans haven't been bullied with either misogyny or accusations of misogyny. I don't know where but it must be out there.

And if you're part of Group F, I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one, hit me!

@hailinel: I take your point I just don't know what other phrase to use that everyone understands. I think we're on the same page on this.