#1 Edited by RedRoach (1191 posts) -

..Or am I just crazy.

I hold a controller fairly regularly, except for one thing. Instead of having my right index finger on the right trigger, I curl it up and rest it on the face buttons. Then I have my middle finger pulling the trigger. I mostly only do this in shooters, so I can reload, jump and more while still being able to aim.

(and yes I know out of 8 billion or so people there's no way "i'm the only one" stop being a jerk, it's a figure of speech, I'm just wondering if it's a common thing.)

#2 Posted by nintendoeats (5975 posts) -

I just tried it. I see the use, but it feels like it would get very uncomfortable. Most games are designed under the assumption that you can't use the face buttons and the right stick at the same time, so sometimes it's going to break the balance and other times it's going to make life harder for you.

#3 Posted by Cr0ssbow (102 posts) -

If I'm reading your description correctly, that's the "claw technique" (I think?) that's more common than you'd think among competitive FPS players. I think it's crazy and painful but I've seen it done.

#4 Posted by Cloudenvy (5891 posts) -

You're crazy! I don't think I could ever play like that.

#5 Posted by TheHBK (5486 posts) -

That's the way you hold a controller if you watch a lot of porn.

#6 Posted by wewantsthering (1567 posts) -

No and you will probably have problems with that index finger over time honestly. Haha.

#7 Posted by RedRoach (1191 posts) -

@Cr0ssbow said:

If I'm reading your description correctly, that's the "claw technique" (I think?) that's more common than you'd think among competitive FPS players. I think it's crazy and painful but I've seen it done.

To be clear, my index finger is rested horizontally, and I push the buttons down with the side of my finger.

#8 Posted by OwnlyUzinWonHan (1480 posts) -
@Jason_Bourne: I do the same exact thing for the same reasons. I started when Gears 1 came out so I can get to cover and aim and have been playing shooters ever since. 
#9 Edited by Seppli (10251 posts) -

@Jason_Bourne said:

@Cr0ssbow said:

If I'm reading your description correctly, that's the "claw technique" (I think?) that's more common than you'd think among competitive FPS players. I think it's crazy and painful but I've seen it done.

To be clear, my index finger is rested horizontally, and I push the buttons down with the side of my finger.

Could be awesome, if I got used to it. Already switched to 4-finger stance regarding shoulderbuttons since about a year, it's second nature now. Adding your cripple finger tactic to the 4 finger stance, that'd be a handy 8 hotkeys without ever taking my thumb of the thumbsticks....

...but alas, I think I'll not try it. It'd take a game with a controlscheme benefitting from such a thing, to make do it. Like what Vanquish did for me and the 4-finger stance.

#10 Posted by captain_clayman (3321 posts) -

only when i play monster hunter, and that hurts my hands.

#11 Posted by Virago (2486 posts) -

Nope. Slower reflexes that way.

#12 Posted by RandomInternetUser (6789 posts) -

I do that in Dark Souls when I need to have complete control over my character's movement while also having complete control over his actions.

#13 Posted by Bourbon_Warrior (4523 posts) -

i play inverted with the controller upside down.

#14 Posted by xMP44x (2193 posts) -

I've heard of people playing the same way as the OP before. They call it the 'claw' or something, and it's fairly common among Call of Duty players since it means that they can hit all the face buttons quickly, as well as using their middle finger for grenades or shooting at dudes.

#15 Posted by 71Ranchero (2772 posts) -

Nope. Never had an issue with not being able to hit face buttons. I am one of the crazy people that can play 6 button fighting games on a controller with just my thumb just as well as I can with my fingertips on an arcade stick.

#16 Posted by believer258 (11923 posts) -

Nope. I hold my controllers like normal. Left thumb on analog stick, right on either analog stick or face buttons, index fingers on shoulder buttons, and the rest of my fingers holding the controller. I tried to hold the PS3 controller with four fingers on the top for a while, but I just couldn't stand it, so I went back to normal.

However, I must admit to having placed my left index finger on the directional buttons on the PSP on occasion. Due to lack of buttons, important functions were sometimes placed on the directional buttons and I had to get to them pretty quick.

#17 Edited by Wes899 (2115 posts) -

@Jason_Bourne said:

..Or am I just crazy.

I hold a controller fairly regularly, except for one thing. Instead of having my right index finger on the right trigger, I curl it up and rest it on the face buttons. Then I have my middle finger pulling the trigger. I mostly only do this in shooters, so I can reload, jump and more while still being able to aim.

(and yes I know out of 8 billion or so people there's no way "i'm the only one" stop being a jerk, it's a figure of speech, I'm just wondering if it's a common thing.)

That's the exact way I play console shooters.

#18 Posted by TentPole (1858 posts) -

I bet you would be great at Monster Hunter.

#19 Posted by TheHumanDove (2523 posts) -

Classic claw technique bro!

#20 Posted by Hockeymask27 (3683 posts) -

Nope. Also who else solves the titlte problem.

#21 Edited by MrKlorox (11209 posts) -

Depends on the game. When I need to use the face buttons and analog stick at the same time, I do this method. In GTA4 for example, you can press the A button to move quickly while you have your gun drawn and are aiming at enemies, however it's not possible to use it unless you do the claw maneuver. This is why I say there should be a third trigger/shoulder button for each hand.
 
Then there's the move where you stretch your right thumb across the controller to press a direction on the d-pad to select an item or weapon while still using your left thumb to manipulate the left stick. I find it much more difficult to pull off on the PS3 controller due to the swapped position of the left stick and d-pad. I hope next generation controllers have both sticks on the outside and the d-pad and face buttons on the inside for this reason.

#22 Posted by sopranosfan (1935 posts) -

No, I think it would be useful if you could get used to it but I just tried and I can't get my middle finger to tap fast enough. I am sure if I used it enough I could learn but I am afraid of people laughing at me.

#23 Posted by Winternet (8019 posts) -

I place my right index finger on the left mouse button so I have no idea what you're talking about.

#24 Posted by upwarDBound (654 posts) -

It sounds like a good way to get carpal tunnel syndrome.

#25 Posted by ajamafalous (12003 posts) -
@Jason_Bourne said:
(and yes I know out of 8 billion or so people there's no way "i'm the only one" stop being a jerk, it's a figure of speech, I'm just wondering if it's a common thing.)
You didn't say "Am I the only one?" so you're fine by me.
#26 Posted by RedRoach (1191 posts) -

@MrKlorox said:

Depends on the game. When I need to use the face buttons and analog stick at the same time, I do this method. In GTA4 for example, you can press the A button to move quickly while you have your gun drawn and are aiming at enemies, however it's not possible to use it unless you do the claw maneuver. This is why I say there should be a third trigger/shoulder button for each hand.

I got my 50 year old dad a 3rd party controller for xmas because he's been wanting to get back into playing games again (I used to play Halo, split screen with him, and I dutifully pressed the quicksave in Max Payne when he told me, good times.) The controller I got him has a bunch of extra features including 4 bumper buttons and two triggers. The 2 extra bumpers are entirely programable.

#27 Posted by NoobSauceG7 (1248 posts) -

I use to do that for Halo 3 so I can jump and aim at the same time but then found the bumper jumper layout and have been using that for each Halo game since.

#28 Posted by Getz (3018 posts) -

@Jason_Bourne said:

(and yes I know out of 8 billion or so people there's no way "i'm the only one" stop being a jerk, it's a figure of speech, I'm just wondering if it's a common thing.)

Well actually you didn't begin your thread with "Am I the only one ____" so I think you can be spared the ridicule.

#29 Posted by ShaggE (6459 posts) -

Ack, no way. My hand feels uncomfortable when I even imagine the claw technique. I understand the usefulness of it, but it doesn't seem worth the discomfort.

#30 Edited by MikkaQ (10294 posts) -

Nope, because ergonomics.

#31 Posted by xaLieNxGrEyx (2605 posts) -

@Jason_Bourne said:

@Cr0ssbow said:

If I'm reading your description correctly, that's the "claw technique" (I think?) that's more common than you'd think among competitive FPS players. I think it's crazy and painful but I've seen it done.

To be clear, my index finger is rested horizontally, and I push the buttons down with the side of my finger.

It's called "Playing Claw" and it's rather common to see in the competitive field mostly with COD. Me personally, (as I play a lot of competitive games on gamebattles.com) I feel its use isn't as great as some think and being able to jump and aim in COD isn't as useful as a drop shot. Plus I'm pretty good at jumping and aiming without playing claw.

#32 Posted by Grillbar (1838 posts) -

my index finger are on the L1 and R1 and my middle fingers are below the L/R2 rarely on them

#33 Posted by Pinworm45 (4088 posts) -

This sounds like a good way to develope hand problems later on... I'll pass

#34 Posted by Soapy86 (2622 posts) -

I first heard of "the claw" a few years ago. I tried it and actually got used to it (mostly), but it did get uncomfortable at times and I'm just not competitive enough to go to such lengths to get an edge on my opponents.

#35 Posted by pyromagnestir (4324 posts) -

I've done that but not regularly, only in odd cases.

#36 Posted by Slaegar (713 posts) -

Sounds like controllers need to be redesigned so that most of the buttons are controlled with fingers instead of thumbs if we continue using our thumbs just for movement.

As for your silly claw hand. I do that sometimes too. I don't rest my index finger on the face buttons, but I can move it done to them easy enough if I need to jump and turn or reload and turn.

.This is why fps shouldn't be played on consoles. Also autoaim.