There's just no way 2 consoles that are more or less the same with more or less the same games and same kind of services are going to be priced differently when both brands are neck and neck.
Sony couldn't get away with this with the PS3 after they trounced the competition for 10 years so Microsoft certainly couldn't get away with it either. No matter what the cost of producing the console, whoever has to cut on profit will do it to match the other company's price.
Pachter has been all over the map with his estimates, but in this case I think he might be right, or at least pretty close. The stuff they are putting into those machines isn't cheap so I think the hope of a $250 console probably isn't going to happen unless they sell them at a loss.
Well, we'll probably know the answer soon. E3 is only a week away.
Maybe. $399 seems to be the price point most people are guessing at, but I honestly have no clue. I would be a bit surprised if they went higher or lower than that, but not completely taken aback.
There's just no way 2 consoles that are more or less the same with more or less the same games and same kind of services are going to be priced differently when both brands are neck and neck.
Sony couldn't get away with this with the PS3 when they trounced the competition for 10 years so Microsoft certainly couldn't get away with it either. No matter what the cost of producing the console, whoever has to cut on profit will do it to match the other company's price.
It's only a $50 difference. Not $300 like last gen. I bet that extra $50 from MS is for the Kinect too.
A $399 price tag seems plausible. I'm a bit curious about what Pachter's justification is for thinking the PS4 will come in $50 under that because I was expecting Sony to actually be a bit higher if the two prices weren't identical.
Personally, I'm expecting something more around the $449 range.
I can't fathom anyone suggesting the PS4 being $349, that's $50 more than they are selling 7 year old PS3s for, it's going to be atleast $399, I can see where he is coming from on a material cost side, but they will add in extras; a game, a year of PS+, a bigger HDD, something, if they put it out at $349, people will immediately start comparing it to the Wii U and it will be perceived as a lesser offering than the XB1 by the general public.
I don't see why he would think the PS4 would be cheaper. (I know I know, the Kinect camera but I don't think that maters as much) So far it sounds like the PS4 is going to be a tad more powerful. With that DDR5 RAM and well, it's Sony. But who knows, maybe Sony is willing to eat a little more on console sales, doesn't sound like them though. I'd say they'll be the same price or the PS4 will be $50-$100 more.
You know, I was in the "$399 on both of them" camp for a while. However, looking overall at the parts in the machines as well as the services attached, I'm not thinking that it's too low of a number. We're going for a "too good to be true" scenario here.
I'm guessing $499 for Xbox One and $449 for Playstation 4.
@jams: It was never 300$ last gen. Equivalent models were 100$ difference.
Wait, I thought the 360 launched at $350 and the PS3 at something like $650~$700?
Xbox 360 was 400$ and the 20GB PS3 was 500$. That why i say equivalent models. I think the 360 had a core model with no HDD for cheaper and Sony had their insanity moment at FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS for the 60GB model.
Anything under $399 and I'd be happy to be honest.
I concur.
It took like two years for the PS3 to get to $399 and that's when I got one. So I too would be glad if it started below. Don't know how likely that is, though.
Sony keeps talking about getting the gamer base to buy in early. If they have a good first party showing at E3, combine it with the lower price, and end up with marginally better performance, I have a hard time imagining who would choose an X1 at launch.
@jams: It was never 300$ last gen. Equivalent models were 100$ difference.
Wait, I thought the 360 launched at $350 and the PS3 at something like $650~$700?
Xbox 360 was 400$ and the 20GB PS3 was 500$. That why i say equivalent models. I think the 360 had a core model with no HDD for cheaper and Sony had their insanity moment at FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS for the 60GB model.
I think "YOU SHOULD GET TWO JABS TO PAY FOR THIS AND ONE OF THEM SHOULD BE PROSTITUTION!!!" comment left me imagining the PS3 costing more than it did I guess.
I think the 360 launched at $400 and it wasn't exactly state of the art at the time, so I'll be surprised if the Xbone is any less than $450 (prices in USD).
Sony launching a console at this price point just doesn't sound like them. Their products almost always cost more than competitors. The only way I see them launching at $349 is if they pull some sort of Vita memory stick style shenanigans.
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