#1 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7240 posts) -

Science! As it evolves the possibilities become more and more vast. But... how about if we used science to tell us the top 100 video games OF ALL TIME. The science is basically just using the averages of 6 different top 100 game lists. Here is the link to the article.

Also, here are the top 10 for you lazy people -

1. Tetris

2. Resident Evil 4

3. Super Mario 64

4. Super Metriod

5. A Link to the Past

6. Bioshock

7. Ocarina of Time

8. Half Life 2

9. Uncharted 2

10. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare.

So, what do you think about the list? Do you agree, disagree or really disagree?

#2 Posted by Nightriff (4990 posts) -

COD4 is the only thing that is confusing me about this list. And where the hell is Persona 4?

#3 Posted by dungbootle (2457 posts) -

That's pretty sound.

#4 Posted by Genkkaku (735 posts) -

I don't like where this science is going.. But then again..

#5 Posted by _Chad (962 posts) -

I've played all of them and I've and enjoyed all of them. Three of them are in my personal top 10 favorites.

#6 Posted by MooseyMcMan (10898 posts) -

I disagree, because despite what most people say, Uncharted 3 is better than Uncharted 2. I'm not saying I like it more, I'm saying it's better. Also I like it more.

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#7 Posted by Shirogane (3569 posts) -

I'm suprised Deus Ex isn't on there, i've always seen it rated quite high in those lists.

#8 Posted by Soap (3577 posts) -

GTA 3 is higher on the full list than Vice City.

SCIENCE IS WRONG!

#9 Posted by BeachThunder (11830 posts) -

@MooseyMcMan said:

I disagree, because despite what most people say, Uncharted 3 is better than Uncharted 2. I'm not saying I like it more, I'm saying it's better. Also I like it more.

B-b-but...science has proven you wrong...:P

Anyway, I appreciate the idea behind the list, but ultimately I feel these kinds of lists lack any sort of focus. I'm more interested in lists that involve things that can reasonably be compared (ie. best games from a certain genre released during a certain time period); because let's face it, comparing Tetris and Modern Warfare 4 is craaazy.

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#10 Edited by Tennmuerti (8073 posts) -

Avarages of whole SIX lists ?!?! two of them from the same publication?

WOAAA !!!!

... That's probably the worst use of the label "science" i've ever had the displeasure of witnessing.

Unless it's a joke article. But if it is, it's not really that funny. So doesn't work either way.

#11 Posted by Athadam (685 posts) -

There's nothing scientific about this.

#12 Posted by Vexxan (4618 posts) -

The use of the word "science" in this process is fucking stupid.

#13 Posted by Kaineda77 (131 posts) -

Weird science..

#14 Posted by ImHungry (377 posts) -

I know it's only supposed to be just for fun, but that methodology is really terrible.

A real scientific proof would be to just ask the Time Trotters for their top 100, those guys seem all about science.

#15 Posted by Nightriff (4990 posts) -

@MooseyMcMan said:

I disagree, because despite what most people say, Uncharted 3 is better than Uncharted 2. I'm not saying I like it more, I'm saying it's better. Also I like it more.

I disagree, despite what you are saying, Uncharted 3 is the worst of the 3, but I also think the first one is the best

#16 Posted by RPGee (759 posts) -

I think the method used is dumb, and is no more scientific than statistics is scientific, but I'll agree with the #1 spot. Tetris is dope.

#17 Posted by Ramone (2961 posts) -

Resident Evil 4 is not the 2nd best game of all time.

#18 Posted by MocBucket62 (1197 posts) -

I guess I can be behind Tetris being the best game ever based on this science, but looking at the full list, I'm not sure if I agree with the arrangement of games. Also, I couldn't see the remaining 233 games on the list. WHY? I want to see if games like RTW, Persona 4 and others got in!

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#19 Posted by lightsoda (540 posts) -

Too much focus on "new" games. Your argument is invalid.

#20 Posted by Swoxx (2993 posts) -

If that's the basis for this science, you mind as well just use metacritic and sort by score.

#21 Posted by Laiv162560asse (487 posts) -

Bioshock at number 6? I'm ditching science for religion.

#22 Posted by ZeForgotten (10397 posts) -
@Swoxx said:

If that's the basis for this science, you mind as well just use metacritic and sort by score.

Pretty much. 
"Isn't science great? look at this! 'clicks "sort by score" button'  
See! science motherfucker! 
#23 Posted by ImmortalSaiyan (4676 posts) -

Why do so many people think Tetris is the best game?

#24 Posted by RedRoach (1191 posts) -

@Nightriff said:

COD4 is the only thing that is confusing me about this list. And where the hell is Persona 4?

At this point CoD is kind of a joke to a lot of gamers, because it's been run into the ground. But CoD 4 was fucking amazing, I'd say it's one of the best games this gen without a doubt.

#25 Posted by mlarrabee (2924 posts) -

I've played the original Tetris, but even if I hadn't it deserves its spot by being the one game every single person has played at some point, whether it was the original, a modern remake, or on a cell phone.

Of the other games on the list, I've played BioShock, Half-Life 2, Uncharted 2, and COD4, and of those, BioShock maybe, maybe cracks number ten. Maybe. The rest are great, absolutely, but not top-ten-of-all-time great.

#26 Posted by MikkaQ (10283 posts) -

@Laivasse said:

Bioshock at number 6? I'm ditching science for religion.

And Haze is the shit...? I can't do this.

#27 Posted by RollingZeppelin (1958 posts) -

Social science is pretend science.

#28 Posted by JordanK85 (140 posts) -

This title of this list would be more accurate if it was: "Games Most Likely to Appear on Best Games Lists."

#29 Posted by algertman (852 posts) -

SCIENCE!

LOL! It's funny because I typed it in all caps!

#30 Posted by atomic_dumpling (2469 posts) -

@JordanK85 said:

This title of this list would be more accurate if it was: "Games Most Likely to Appear on Best Games Lists."

I humbly suggest "Obvious clickbait is obvious"

#31 Edited by Ravenlight (8040 posts) -

That's not science, it's statistics.

@atomic_dumpling said:

@JordanK85 said:

This title of this list would be more accurate if it was: "Games Most Likely to Appear on Best Games Lists."

I humbly suggest "Obvious clickbait is obvious"

Following fellow accuracy enthusiasts.

#32 Posted by pyromagnestir (4296 posts) -

Uncharted 2 is the only one that makes me go, "Really?" And I'm with Jeff on Resident Evil 4. That game is shit. (OK, OK, it's not shit, it just doesn't appeal to me, personally.)

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#33 Posted by FancySoapsMan (5816 posts) -

I don't need science to prove that those are, in fact, games. 

#34 Posted by Deusx (1903 posts) -

I like that list. I approve of science.

#35 Posted by ImmortalSaiyan (4676 posts) -

@rebgav said:

@ImmortalSaiyan said:

Why do so many people think Tetris is the best game?

Because it is the best game.

You really have to fuck Tetris up pretty badly to make it not fun to play (as many shitty versions have proven.)

Tetris is a well made falling block puzzle game. I don't think that warrants the best game ever. I personally don't enjoy it for more than ten minutes at a time.

#36 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7240 posts) -

I'm pretty surprised no one has mentioned A link to the past being on top or Ocarina or time, I thought there would be more... Outrage.

#37 Posted by shinboy630 (1135 posts) -

@FancySoapsMan said:

I don't need science to prove that those are, in fact, games.

I took it a step further and used science to determine that this is, indeed, a list of video games.

#38 Posted by yoshisaur (2701 posts) -

Not to combat the integrity of the final list, but I don't see how adding lists together makes it "science." Sounds like a meme being overused :/

#39 Posted by Vinny_Says (5700 posts) -

This laptop I'm using to view that list was made by science...so....

#40 Edited by Jazzycola (662 posts) -

When i saw top 100 scientifically proven video games, I was thinking that science has proved that the logic within a games story, physics, or other is deemed accurate. Disinterested in top 100 lists because they're literally just a sites way of getting you to click 100 times. We don't need these kind of articles every 3 months.

#41 Edited by Jagged85 (128 posts) -

That list is not "scientifically proven" since the sample size is far too small (only 6 lists) and therefore suffers from selection bias (since it only represents a small fraction of the lists out there).

Here's a far more "scientifically proven" (or rather, "statistically proven") list based on weighted rankings using a much larger sample size of 54 different lists:

http://www.filibustercartoons.com/games.htm

PlaceNameAuthorYearTotal ScoreAverage RankPercent Score
1Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of TimeNintendo19983082.79.93%
2Super Mario 64Nintendo19962014.36.48%
3TetrisAlexey Pajitnov19871984.26.38%
4Final Fantasy VIISquaresoft19971353.94.35%
5Legend of Zelda: A Link to the PastNintendo19921135.43.64%
6GoldenEye 007Rare19971036.33.32%
7Super Mario Bros.Nintendo1985943.23.03%
8Half-Life 2Valve2004845.02.71%
9DOOMid / GT Interactive1993814.82.61%
10Super Mario WorldNintendo1991775.92.48%
#42 Posted by Milkman (16657 posts) -

This is dumb but I'm going to post this anyway. 
  

#43 Posted by Trainer_Red (314 posts) -

Resident Evil 4? Seriously?

#44 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7240 posts) -

@Trainer_Red said:

Resident Evil 4? Seriously?

Why so serious?

#45 Posted by frankfartmouth (1016 posts) -

You obviously can't completely quantify something like this, but as far as something like this is concerned, it's a pretty good stab. I'd say those are definitely ten of the best games ever made, with COD maybe a little out of place and a few games lower or higher than I'd put them, but overall pretty good list.

#46 Posted by Demoskinos (14763 posts) -

@Ramone said:

Resident Evil 4 is not the 2nd best game of all time.

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#47 Posted by fuzzybunny566 (451 posts) -

I thought this was going to be a list of games that obey the laws of physics, reality and the like, i.e., no ragdolls or gibs.

#48 Posted by SaturdayNightSpecials (2373 posts) -

@Jagged85 said:

That list is not "scientifically proven" since the sample size is far too small (only 6 lists) and therefore suffers from selection bias (since it only represents a small fraction of the lists out there).

Here's a far more "scientifically proven" (or rather, "statistically proven") list based on weighted rankings using a much larger sample size of 54 different lists:

http://www.filibustercartoons.com/games.htm

PlaceNameAuthorYearTotal ScoreAverage RankPercent Score
1Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of TimeNintendo19983082.79.93%
2Super Mario 64Nintendo19962014.36.48%
3TetrisAlexey Pajitnov19871984.26.38%
4Final Fantasy VIISquaresoft19971353.94.35%
5Legend of Zelda: A Link to the PastNintendo19921135.43.64%
6GoldenEye 007Rare19971036.33.32%
7Super Mario Bros.Nintendo1985943.23.03%
8Half-Life 2Valve2004845.02.71%
9DOOMid / GT Interactive1993814.82.61%
10Super Mario WorldNintendo1991775.92.48%

This list seems much more accurate to me, though Goldeneye still sticks out. Not just because I don't agree with it, but because I don't feel like it really holds that sort of place in popular opinion.

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#49 Posted by Jagged85 (128 posts) -

@SaturdayNightSpecials said:

@Jagged85 said:

That list is not "scientifically proven" since the sample size is far too small (only 6 lists) and therefore suffers from selection bias (since it only represents a small fraction of the lists out there).

Here's a far more "scientifically proven" (or rather, "statistically proven") list based on weighted rankings using a much larger sample size of 54 different lists:

http://www.filibustercartoons.com/games.htm

PlaceNameAuthorYearTotal ScoreAverage RankPercent Score
1Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of TimeNintendo19983082.79.93%
2Super Mario 64Nintendo19962014.36.48%
3TetrisAlexey Pajitnov19871984.26.38%
4Final Fantasy VIISquaresoft19971353.94.35%
5Legend of Zelda: A Link to the PastNintendo19921135.43.64%
6GoldenEye 007Rare19971036.33.32%
7Super Mario Bros.Nintendo1985943.23.03%
8Half-Life 2Valve2004845.02.71%
9DOOMid / GT Interactive1993814.82.61%
10Super Mario WorldNintendo1991775.92.48%

This list seems much more accurate to me, though Goldeneye still sticks out. Not just because I don't agree with it, but because I don't feel like it really holds that sort of place in popular opinion.

Popular opinion changes with the times. Its star may have faded over the years, but back In the late 90s to early 2000s, critical and popular opinion of GoldenEye was very high, more so than any other FPS up until Half-Life 2.

#50 Posted by IBurningStar (2162 posts) -

Two of their sources were IGN and G4. This whole thing is invalid.