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Posted by Onomatopoeia (101 posts) -

Every shit storm that comes along the video game industry manages to make itself seem less credible and proceeds to kill the very little credibility it has left (if it has any at all is debatable). It descended in to nothing but click bait to get more money from ads, the interests of the people who visit the sites aren't the priority of the people making the content. It has come down to people in the industry are shamelessly making sensationalised content to increase site visitors.

The surge of Anti-Advertising software had press 'celebrities' crawling out of the wood work protesting how dare people use browser extensions, look at Game Trailers for example. On some websites certain journalists have turned it in to a platform to push their own political agenda which is the most damaging factors the industry faces today along with shit like Doritogate, IGN putting in one of their own to Mass Effect and Gawker making up things about David Jaffe. Journalism in the industry needs to stay neutral as possible if it wants to improve and gain some journalistic integrity. The very people in the gaming press that are doing this practice are the very people that are hurting the industry the most.

Fucking stop it.

#1 Edited by McLargepants (381 posts) -

I think video games are doing just fine. If you feel the Enthusiast Press scene or forum communities are ruining your enjoyment of video games, then you should stop following them.

#2 Posted by coaxmetal (1619 posts) -

It's true, video games are dead because of the internet. There are no more video games, they have been killed. If only nobody talked about video games we would still have video games.

#3 Posted by Vuud (1999 posts) -

I think you can't see the circus for the clowns, Onomatopoeia.

#4 Posted by csl316 (8691 posts) -

Depends where you go.

On Giant Bomb, they're just guilty of pushing their North Korean agenda that one time and starting wars via Bombcast.

#5 Edited by Milkman (16802 posts) -

big, if true

#6 Posted by Demoskinos (14839 posts) -

First off hardly anything of what is reported is "journalism" what Patrick does THAT is journalism he digs and finds a story. Places like Kotaku and most other news sites just regurgitate press releases or make speculative opinion posts. Its never been about journalism at its core. Secondly, the fact that you think it should be neutral is laughable. If everything was entirely neutral it would be boring and stale. Personality and opinions is what makes people writing about the games industry fun and exciting to read.

#7 Posted by JasonR86 (9710 posts) -

Follow the money.

Sexism bullshit.

That shit ain't a game.

Chemtrails.

Other stuff.

Rabble rabble rabble.

#8 Posted by adam1808 (1500 posts) -

@jasonr86 said:

Follow the money.

Sexism bullshit.

That shit ain't a game.

Chemtrails.

Other stuff.

Rabble rabble rabble.

Hear hear brother.

#9 Posted by Animasta (14692 posts) -

@jasonr86 said:

Follow the money.

Sexism bullshit.

That shit ain't a game.

Chemtrails.

Other stuff.

Rabble rabble rabble.

#jointheconversation

#10 Posted by CaLe (3988 posts) -

You know most people who play games have never come in contact with any of the bullshit you mention? You're in too deep, man. Fucking eject.

#11 Posted by TheHumanDove (2523 posts) -

There's no getting off this ride

#12 Posted by AMyggen (3065 posts) -

We're having a discussion about video game journalism again, huh?

#13 Posted by Aegon (5643 posts) -

Tell me more about Doritogate.

#14 Posted by Brodehouse (9951 posts) -

@cale said:

You know most people who play games have never come in contact with any of the bullshit you mention? You're in too deep, man. Fucking eject.

There's no getting off this ride

So it goes.

#15 Posted by Barf_Surprise (67 posts) -
#16 Edited by GaspoweR (3044 posts) -

@jasonr86 said:

Follow the money.

Sexism bullshit.

That shit ain't a game.

Chemtrails.

Other stuff.

Rabble rabble rabble.

#17 Posted by Sniipe (216 posts) -

Dude, unplug.

#18 Posted by ArbitraryWater (11748 posts) -

I don't need to read video game journalism to have a good time, Maaaaaaaannnnnn.

#20 Posted by TruthTellah (9122 posts) -
Are you happy now, game journalists?

#21 Edited by Chaser324 (6552 posts) -

I would argue that none of the stuff you mentioned actually is "journalism" and has no obligation to maintain absolute objectivity. The vast majority of video game media coverage is editorial, which by definition is opinion-based. If you don't like the opinions of a particular person or outlet, seek out other opinions.

As for the issues of integrity that you touch on, that's an entirely different discussion, but 99.999% of all that follow the money conspiracy theory junk is total nonsense.

If you find that you absolutely can't accept an ounce of opinion creeping into video game coverage, I'm sure there's probably some soulless website similar to Kotaku just without any commentary at all that cranks out nothing but press releases and trailers, and there's always http://www.objectivegamereviews.com/ for your game reviews.

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#22 Posted by DrDarkStryfe (1118 posts) -

I'm going to share a little secret about journalism.

It is never neutral.

#23 Posted by EpicSteve (6487 posts) -

Do you have any specific examples?

#24 Posted by Yummylee (21665 posts) -

But how could they be killing something THAT'S ALREADY DEEEEEAD AGHHHHHHHHHH

#25 Posted by Tireyo (6413 posts) -

When it comes to a few games, I feel like journalism and fan base can be responsible in determining a games outcome.

#26 Posted by boysef (76 posts) -

boredom breeds vitriol... it's ok... i'm bored too

#27 Posted by MB (12425 posts) -

You stop it!

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#28 Edited by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

@boysef said:

boredom breeds vitriol... it's ok... i'm bored too

Does this mean that the Star Wars franchise only exists because some key characters were bored out of their minds? Because that makes way too much sense.

#29 Edited by Pinmonkey (49 posts) -

Haha, you said "Doritogate" seriously in a sentence.

#30 Edited by boysef (76 posts) -

@boysef said:

boredom breeds vitriol... it's ok... i'm bored too

Does this mean that the Star Wars franchise only exists because some key characters were bored out of their minds? Because that makes way too much sense.

dude wanted to bang his sister he was so bored... those poor womp womp rats never stood a chance did they?

#31 Edited by jimmyfenix (3855 posts) -
#32 Posted by GiantLizardKing (447 posts) -

Quit reading dumb bullshit and you won't be so worried. Nobody matters but giantbomb, rockpapershotgun, and usgamer anyway.

#33 Posted by Wolfgame (755 posts) -

This topic is dangerously presumptuous in assuming "video game journalism" ever had integrity to begin with.

#34 Edited by Butler (384 posts) -

EA does a better job at killing video games than any journalist did.

Also, I tune out every-time someone mentions IGN, it's like Fox News nothing ever good comes from it.

#35 Posted by Brendan (7811 posts) -

I'm getting a weird feeling that you're one of the angry people on Twitter that use the phrase "SJW" as a way to insult someone.

#36 Edited by alwaysbebombing (1588 posts) -

@jasonr86 said:

Follow the money.

Sexism bullshit.

That shit ain't a game.

Chemtrails.

Other stuff.

Rabble rabble rabble.

Sheeple.

Also, I don't understand why people imply that any journalism has integrity anymore.

#37 Edited by Pr1mus (3914 posts) -

#38 Posted by Random45 (1212 posts) -

I actually do think that a lot of game journalism relies on sensationalist topics and titles. It's why I don't visit Gamespot anymore - they kept releasing news related to the Xbox One and the PS4 that is just freaking click bait. The article that made me just give up was when they reported about two whole Xbox One consoles have some sort of liquid leaking out of them. Not to mention they kept reporting non-news stuff like World of Warcraft getting a new patch... just... why?

It's why I like Patrick so much, he actually reports about things that really mean something and he puts in a lot of time and effort into everything he writes. It reminds me of that amazing article on Kotaku of all places that explained the collapse of Silicon Knights, man that was an AMAZING article. We need more of that shit.

#39 Edited by TruthTellah (9122 posts) -
#40 Edited by subyman (624 posts) -

Write sensational blog article about journalists killing the industry with sensationalism.

#41 Posted by Alex (2175 posts) -

That oughta do it. Thanks very much, Ray.

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#42 Posted by TruthTellah (9122 posts) -

@random45: Have you tried reading more Polygon articles? That place is chock full of thorough articles like that. I may not like them for the day to day coverage, but their special features are regularly quite good.

#43 Posted by EXTomar (4738 posts) -

This is a fringe element in fringe culture complaining about nutty fringe elements.

I don't think the OP has much to worry about.

#44 Posted by Kevin_Cogneto (1077 posts) -

@alex: Are you a game journalist?

Then... DIE!

#45 Posted by TheHT (11290 posts) -

DONGLES.

#46 Posted by Random45 (1212 posts) -

@random45: Have you tried reading more Polygon articles? That place is chock full of thorough articles like that. I may not like them for the day to day coverage, but their special features are regularly quite good.

Giantbomb is the only video game site i regularly visit, I haven't ever gone to Polygon, despite people mentioning it here a few times. I've just started checking it out, and I think I might start frequenting the site now, haha. Thank you.

#47 Posted by Clonedzero (4200 posts) -

I'm just sick of everything being a controversy and people being way too serious about shit.
But yeah, i stopped giving a shit awhile ago.They can shoehorn their social issues and shout about it from their soapbox. I'll just be over here actually enjoying games.

#48 Posted by bluefish (466 posts) -

PC gaming is dead.

#49 Edited by TruthTellah (9122 posts) -

@random45 said:

@truthtellah said:

@random45: Have you tried reading more Polygon articles? That place is chock full of thorough articles like that. I may not like them for the day to day coverage, but their special features are regularly quite good.

Giantbomb is the only video game site i regularly visit, I haven't ever gone to Polygon, despite people mentioning it here a few times. I've just started checking it out, and I think I might start frequenting the site now, haha. Thank you.

No problem! They have some great features; so, if you like in-depth articles on games and game development, they're a nice place to check out.

#50 Posted by TruthTellah (9122 posts) -

I'm just sick of everything being a controversy and people being way too serious about shit.

But yeah, i stopped giving a shit awhile ago.They can shoehorn their social issues and shout about it from their soapbox. I'll just be over here actually enjoying games.

People upset about others taking some things seriously would probably be helped by lightening up a bit. Don't take things so seriously! heh.

I take a lot of things seriously, but I don't let them ruin my day or my gaming experience. If people want to be serious about something, let them; it's not the end of the world. Those who seem to regularly be bothered by people taking anything seriously tend to be taking the sanctity of their hobby too seriously. Let people say what they will, and enjoy what you will enjoy. There's room for fun, seriousness, and even more fun in gaming. :)