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#1 Edited by ShinjiEx (793 posts) -

Like nude big breasts here and their "fan service" and sexual scenes something western game seriously lack

I'm not talking about the hardcore porn stuff though much less being interactive though that would be kewl

But oddly M rated games which are supposed to be for adults are instead marketed for kids

cause you know some stupid parent who bought there kid pretty much a rated R game would flip if there was sex scenes... but it's okay that you can smash though a wall and break someones neck!

TV network have matured like FX which pretty much has sex scenes all over the place especially (The Americans) FX's latest original television drama

So video games need get more mature and stop showing a blank black screen i.e. Fable GTA when when you have "sex"

So to all the publishers pretty much stop screwing over the adults who play video games

^__^

#2 Edited by LiquidPrince (16490 posts) -

I'm not opposed to more boobs in my game if the situation calls for it. I especially hate it when a game tries to be all edgy and sexy by having a strip club in their game for example, but all the women are completely covered. So lame. If you're going to do nudity in your game, do it right.

#3 Posted by Yummylee (23271 posts) -

Kewl?!

I cannot flag this fast enough.

#4 Edited by Video_Game_King (36566 posts) -
Done.

#5 Posted by mrfluke (5661 posts) -

wow arent you bold in just straight up saying I WANT MORE NUDE BOOBS IN MY GAMEZ BUT NOT HARDCORE SEX

but i agree in the sense that people should design their characters the way they want without press complaining about it and saying IM GROWING UP, I THINK THIS IS BAD FOR THE INDUSTRY, NO IM NOT A CENSOR IM MAKING THIS INDUSTRY BETTER

like if an attractive game character female or male's looks/proportions makes you feel uncomfortable then that speaks more to said persons insecurities imo.

#6 Posted by mrfluke (5661 posts) -
#7 Edited by Chibithor (584 posts) -

I agree with the general sentiment, I guess? Inevitable controversy aside they might be worried about getting rated AO. Still, reminds me of a part in Edmund McMillen's manifesto thing:

Chances are you're not a fucking kid anymore, so if you feel like making a more adult game, do so. When you’re indie you don’t have to answer to anyone, so stop designing games like you have to have to pass ESRB. I'm not saying everyone should make porn games, but why do all video games seem to have immature themes? People aren't stupid: stop treating them like they are. Speak through your work like you would to your friends, design for yourself and don't censor your ideas.

#8 Posted by Video_Game_King (36566 posts) -
#9 Posted by mrfluke (5661 posts) -
#10 Edited by TheManWithNoPlan (6289 posts) -

Duder, if you want games full of shameless sexual content, there's already a HUGE market for that.

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#11 Edited by Nightriff (6350 posts) -

I think someone is a little sexually frustrated right now....

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#12 Edited by ShinjiEx (793 posts) -

The way the Witcher 2 "later released for Xbox 360" did sex scenes classy and tasteful which was an optional sub activity

#13 Edited by JasonR86 (10007 posts) -

Huh.

In movies, I think sex scenes can be used for story purposes in a great way. The one that immediately comes to mind for me is Shame. The sex and nudity in that film served a purpose. It was required for the film's story and the atmosphere it created. Other films do this really well. But it seems to me that, more often then not, nudity and sex in film is just there for the sack of being there. They don't serve a value besides being titillating. If I want to see titillating I'll watch porn. When I'm watching a film that isn't porn I expect that everything that is in the film serves a meaningful purpose beyond what I get from the purpose of porn or other forms of film which are more, lets say, 'purpose-built'.

I think games could use nudity and sex in a meaningful way to set tone, tell a story, etc. etc. Especially with the reality that games, being an interactive medium, utilizing those types of scenes and scenarios in gameplay could be really neat. Though it didn't totally work the way I think the creators intended, the club scene in Heavy Rain was a valiant attempt at doing this. But if sex and nudity is simply added so that the M-rating can seem meaningful then fuck that noise. If sex and nudity can't be utilized beyond just for the sake of being titillating then take it the fuck out. There's nothing M-rated about that. In fact that is one of the most juvenile things that could be done to a game.

I took that way more seriously then I thought I would.

#14 Edited by JasonR86 (10007 posts) -

@yummylee said:

Kewl?!

I cannot flag this fast enough.

Hey! I actually put some thought into my post. The world needs to read my words so this thread HAS TO EXIST!!!

#15 Posted by ShadowConqueror (3297 posts) -

Sure. If it fits the world and atmosphere of the game, why not?

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#16 Posted by Thompson820 (417 posts) -

@jasonr86 said:

Huh.

In movies, I think sex scenes can be used for story purposes in a great way. The one that immediately comes to mind for me is Shame. The sex and nudity in that film served a purpose. It was required for the film's story and the atmosphere it created. Other films do this really well. But it seems to me that, more often then not, nudity and sex in film is just there for the sack of being there. They don't serve a value besides being titillating. If I want to see titillating I'll watch porn. When I'm watching a film that isn't porn I expect that everything that is in the film serves a meaningful purpose beyond what I get from the purpose of porn or other forms of film which are more, lets say, 'purpose-built'.

I think games could use nudity and sex in a meaningful way to set tone, tell a story, etc. etc. Especially with the reality that games, being an interactive medium, utilizing those types of scenes and scenarios in gameplay could be really neat. Though it didn't totally work the way I think the creators intended, the club scene in Heavy Rain was a valiant attempt at doing this. But if sex and nudity is simply added so that the M-rating can seem meaningful then fuck that noise. If sex and nudity can't be utilized beyond just for the sake of being titillating then take it the fuck out. There's nothing M-rated about that. In fact that is one of the most juvenile things that could be done to a game.

I took that way more seriously then I thought I would.

I couldn't agree more.

#17 Posted by Mofaz (47 posts) -

No, games don't need more aimless breasts and exaggerated facsimiles of feminine sexuality.

Videogame artists seem to think women are invertebrates with a length of bungee cord as a spinal substitute, if I ever saw a woman like the ones in League of Legends or, well, nearly any videogame I can possibly mention, walking in the streets, I'd be concerned that her back was going to snap in half, either that, or she's going to be suffering unimaginable back pain by the time she turns thirty.

If you want titties and whatnot, I suggest you go buy some Barbie dolls at Toys R Us and undress them in the privacy of your own, possibly very filthy, home.

#18 Posted by Fear_the_Booboo (716 posts) -

The Witcher 2 sex scenes were useless and kinda childish, seriously. It's a great game, and videogames could use some sex scenes if it's done well, but I have yet to see that (it might exist, though).

#19 Posted by HaltIamReptar (2038 posts) -

@shinjiex said:

So to all the publishers pretty much stop screwing over the adults who play video games

great! let us know your opinion on the matter when this applies to you, then.

#20 Posted by fatalbanana (244 posts) -

You should play The Witcher... not sure if that counts since it was made by a Swedish? polish? somthin developer but it's not that it never happens (the God of War games also has boobs) its just not that common. I could agree with you if its done in a "tasteful" way which could be a very fine line to walk. With all the sexism in games talk that's been everywhere lately I'm sure most devs are terrified to even go near that stuff anytime soon but hey fingers crossed. I'm 100% all for artistic expression and if that includes some uncensored sexual content even better but I can imagine it being a walk on the slippery rocks especially with game developers and not to mention all the chuckle heads pushin the same old tired and played out "games aren't art" or "games are too violent" nonsense.

#21 Posted by thechronodarkness (295 posts) -

Alrighty, I watched Fatal Attraction earlier today, and all I could think about during my shower, is how sex in movies and video games just don't really have much a spot to an extent. Why do you watch porn? The answer you'll get from most people, is to climax. I mean, go back in history. Lets take a game. Dramatize a situation. You're walking through a club, and you randomly see a guy getting some services performed on him. If you can just walk right by, its there just to set the mood for the environment you're in. You don't have to spend any time to get to the next encounter. But lets say theres an unskippable cutscene. You have to watch the lead character and some easy woman, that met not even an hour ago, doing their thing. Does seeing polygons clipping with another polygon really do anything for you? If you're really that hard up, you really need to seek some type of help.

Same goes with movies. A few seconds of a scene is one thing, as it probably adds something. Take a bond movie. Connery is sleeping with some whore, and shes pulls out a knife and tries to stab him. *Sounds closer to a Moore bond actually :/* But that sex was there for a plot point. Whereas, take the beginning of 300. Main lead and his wife and banging it out. You already know they are married and love each other. Does showing really bad sex on screen really do anything for the plot? Beyond the point that alot of sex on the screen is pointless, its usually really bad and pathetic sex. Boobies on the screen is one thing. But boobies on the screen, when the developer/director, wants you to get a hard on because of it? Unless its porn, its pointless. You go watch American Pie for the boobies, lets face it. But do you really want Max Payne 4: V for Viagra edition with extended 30 minute sex scenes? *Actually maybe*

#22 Edited by Yummylee (23271 posts) -

@jasonr86: I think this sort of discussion would be better served if you actually just made your own thread about it anyway :P lest it continues with the OP's rampant nonsense forever looming above...

But I also agree, to some extent. I wouldn't mind nudity if the game's intentionally trying to be trash. It's all about the tone the game sets, and if a game can feature copious amounts of gore, then some added bit of titillation should feel right at home. Big whopping knockers I would say fit in perfectly in something like the God of War games, and the ridiculous jigglin' happening in DMC4 was appropriate enough given the tone of everything else. If the story takes your character to a strip club, then I would expect nudity as well and I feel it's often a little cowardly otherwise. But you're right that we also need more balance, more games to implement nudity and sex for a higher purpose and to involve it in the story.

Your Heavy Rain example was spot on as for citing a game that at least tried to use nudity for something besides mere eye candy, too. Though this was also the same game that featured an unnecessary shower scene. For as brief and hilariously animated as they are, the sex scenes in Mass Effect and Dragon Age at least serve a purpose as well. Even if the romances themselves that lead up to them are perhaps a little clumsy. The Saboteur is another good example of where nudity fitted in well. It wasn't especially pandering or at the forefront of the game, and existed purely because of the surroundings.

#23 Edited by RandomHero666 (3184 posts) -

Oh hey guys, I've recently turned 18 and have become an adult.. so I want to see tits everywhere I look. What? no tits in this adult rated game?! How dare you treat me like a child.

That's you OP.

#24 Posted by HaltIamReptar (2038 posts) -

@yummylee said:

If the story takes your character to a strip club, then I would expect nudity as well and I feel it's often a little cowardly otherwise

Why do you feel that way? Nudity is against the law in many jurisdictions in the U.S.

#25 Posted by Animasta (14820 posts) -

as an adult, my enjoyment of something does not depend on how much sex is in something.

so you know

#26 Edited by Ekami (277 posts) -

i wished i loved anything as much as this guy loves the idea of tits. he seems powered by it like a machine that no one would ever want to use or be near

#27 Edited by BigJeffrey (5077 posts) -

Actual sex scenes in Video games are just awkward as fuck.

#28 Edited by Yummylee (23271 posts) -
@haltiamreptar said:

@yummylee said:

If the story takes your character to a strip club, then I would expect nudity as well and I feel it's often a little cowardly otherwise

Why do you feel that way? Nudity is against the law in many jurisdictions in the U.S.

Really? I didn't know that. My point was to keep it in line with reality; if nudity is routine in... I dunno, a European nude beach or whatever for the sake of argument, and a game takes you there (edit: for good reason and is in service of the narrative of course...), then I would expect nudity in-game for that location. I only said strip club because of my ignorance :P

#30 Posted by Cold_Wolven (2356 posts) -

I can't tell if this is a joke thread, I would just like to add that any sexual content in video games like the ones in Mass Effect just come off as awkward because the animations always look janky as hell.

#31 Edited by rebgav (1442 posts) -

Videogames need less sexual content. Both the medium and the audience are too immature to address or appreciate that sort of content in a meaningful or responsible way. The best examples of developers trying to address sexuality or the act itself in mainstream games are uniformly terrible and while the audience seems happy to get its space-opera shooters with a side of hentai, it balks at any remotely relatable representation which isn't entirely neutered and sanitized. If developers can't make it work and the audience can't handle it anyway what exactly would we gain from having more "sexual content" in games?

#32 Edited by McGhee (6128 posts) -

The U.S. needs to stop pussyfooting around and make some full Adult rated games like Japan has.

#33 Posted by ArbitraryWater (12736 posts) -
#35 Posted by MordeaniisChaos (5904 posts) -

I think someone is a little sexually frustrated right now....

How'd you know?

Oh, you weren't talking to me?

#36 Posted by rebgav (1442 posts) -

Considering the "quality" of the "adult" content in video games thus far, I'm still entirely ok with as few poorly-done sex scenes as possible in my video games, be they RPGs that allow you to collect trading cards of all of the women you sex or poorly-contextualized sex scenes with european uncanny valley robots.

I'd argue that the tarot cards in The Witcher were a relatively elegant solution to the problem of representing sex in-game. Trying to touch upon the subject of Geralt's relationship with humanity and women in particular was obviously important to both the characterization and the overarching plot of games, the execution of idea was quite good and the artwork was mostly well made and attractive as far as I can recall. In my opinion, that ought to be enough to justify the inclusion to anyone who might have an issue with it in concept but if it's actually necessary to justify it to the audience at all then it probably isn't worth broaching the subject in the first place. The Witcher wasn't exactly a mainstream title at the time and while the name is slightly more recognizable now I suspect the next game will have a small enough audience that CD Projekt will be able to continue experimenting without whipping up a shitstorm.

#37 Posted by Gamer_152 (14284 posts) -

There is room for a sensible discussion of sex in games on this website, but this is not it. The opening post is poorly presented and looks like borderline troll content, and while there are people here who genuinely want to discuss this, the thread is full of posts that are off-topic or being snarky or attacking towards the OP. This is a somewhat delicate topic and to anyone who wants to start a discussion on this I advise you try to make sure your post is constructive, well thought-out, and properly written and formatted before you submit it.

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