#1 Edited by Redbullet685 (6068 posts) -

So I was just checking out what was on Netflix and hidden deep within the Documentaries section I found, excitedly so, Indie Game: The Movie! I have wanted to see this for a long while but have yet to do so, but I know what I'm watching tonight! Since it's kinda hard to find newly added, good movies on Netflix, I thought I would give a heads-up to everyone interested in the movie and I would think many of you are since the GB editors and community have been known to talk about it a bit.

Edit: And this is US too. Not sure about Canada or Europe and what not.

#2 Posted by mscupcakes (612 posts) -

Awesome! I've been meaning to rewatch IGTM and this is the perfect excuse! :D

#3 Posted by Dtat (1627 posts) -

I've been wanting to see that!

#4 Posted by the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG (4308 posts) -

Im assuming its not out in Canada?  I should just look this up....

#5 Posted by csl316 (9269 posts) -

I bought it but still... pretty sweet because more people should see it.

#6 Posted by Labman (288 posts) -

@the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG said:

Im assuming its not out in Canada? I should just look this up....

I'm guessing no...we Canadians always get the shitty end of the Netflix stick. But, I can assure you, it is a great doc and well worth the $9.99 sticker price if you choose to buy!

#7 Posted by ComradeKhan (687 posts) -

I'm going to go watch it right now.

#8 Posted by Landon (4164 posts) -

Thanks!

#9 Posted by Redbullet685 (6068 posts) -

Just finished it and have to say that it was definitely amazing. Loved it. Also, a lot of GB represented in it!

#10 Posted by mordukai (7184 posts) -

@Redbullet685 said:

hidden deep within the Documentaries section

I wouldn't really call it hidden. It was added very recently and it was one of the fist choices when browsing through the Just Arrived section. It pays to check it out once in a while. I also Instant Queue Marley even though I am not a fan of him nor his music but I hear that it was a well made documentary. I'm always down to a good documentary even if I'm not a fan of the subject.

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#11 Posted by Redbullet685 (6068 posts) -

@mordukai said:

@Redbullet685 said:

hidden deep within the Documentaries section

I wouldn't really call it hidden. It was added very recently and it was one of the fist choices when browsing through the Just Arrived section.

Well it was just in the documentaries section for me. I believe Netflix chooses what movies to show you in the categories based off of the movies/shows that you've watched.

#12 Posted by algertman (852 posts) -

My God. Thank you Team Meat for making this watchable. Phil Fish is douche bag and Johnathon Blow is a tool. They are completely full of shit.

#13 Posted by Phatmac (5726 posts) -
@algertman

My God. Thank you Team Meat for making this watchable. Phil Fish is douche bag and Johnathon Blow is a tool. They are completely full of shit.

Yep, Team Meat made it better than it could have been without them. Also love the Giantbomb love! :)
#14 Edited by mordukai (7184 posts) -

@algertman said:

My God. Thank you Team Meat for making this watchable. Phil Fish is douche bag and Johnathon Blow is a tool. They are completely full of shit.

Those were my views on them but after watching this movie I can understand why they behave the way they do.

My main criticism of the film is that Phil Fish's former partner did not get his "15 minutes" to express his side of the story. I would have excepted his omission from the movie if he was asked and then refused but the makers saw it fot not to include him. To me that made the whole Fez section of the movie very much one sided story.

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#15 Posted by yoshimitz707 (2453 posts) -
@Labman

@the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG said:

Im assuming its not out in Canada? I should just look this up....

I'm guessing no...we Canadians always get the shitty end of the Netflix stick. But, I can assure you, it is a great doc and well worth the $9.99 sticker price if you choose to buy!

Guys, stop using that shitty Canadian Netflix and use something like unblock-us to get an American account.
#16 Posted by Mesoian (1574 posts) -

Oh sweet. I won a copy of Adobe CS5.5 when I saw IGTM in theaters, I was super stoked.

#17 Posted by WMWA (1162 posts) -
@Labman

@the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG said:

Im assuming its not out in Canada? I should just look this up....

I'm guessing no...we Canadians always get the shitty end of the Netflix stick. But, I can assure you, it is a great doc and well worth the $9.99 sticker price if you choose to buy!

They're selling it on their website half price with the code "butidonthavenetflix" 4.99
#18 Posted by HarlequinRiot (1098 posts) -

Cool, I missed it when it came to my city before.

#19 Edited by algertman (852 posts) -

@mordukai said:

@algertman said:

My God. Thank you Team Meat for making this watchable. Phil Fish is douche bag and Johnathon Blow is a tool. They are completely full of shit.

Those were my views on them but after watching this movie I can understand why they behave the way they do.

My main criticism of the film is that Phil Fish's former partner did not get his "15 minutes" to express his side of the story. I would have excepted his omission from the movie if he was asked and then refused but the makers saw it fot not to include him. To me that made the whole Fez section of the movie very much one sided story.

Fish acted like a spoiled little shit. It also makes the indie scene look pathetic that Fez won awards as far back as '08.

The ex-partner was not asked to be part of the movie I don't think. They also don't mention things like the new partner being involved with getting the movie made.

#20 Posted by WMWA (1162 posts) -
@mordukai yeah, those are pretty much my feelings. Still loved the movie as it stands. Super entertaining
#22 Posted by mordukai (7184 posts) -

@algertman said:

@mordukai said:

@algertman said:

My God. Thank you Team Meat for making this watchable. Phil Fish is douche bag and Johnathon Blow is a tool. They are completely full of shit.

Those were my views on them but after watching this movie I can understand why they behave the way they do.

My main criticism of the film is that Phil Fish's former partner did not get his "15 minutes" to express his side of the story. I would have excepted his omission from the movie if he was asked and then refused but the makers saw it fot not to include him. To me that made the whole Fez section of the movie very much one sided story.

Fish acted like a spoiled little shit. It also makes the indie scene look pathetic that Fez won awards as far back as '08.

The ex-partner was not asked to be part of the movie I don't think. They also don't mention things like the new partner being involved with getting the movie made.

"Phil Fish's ex-business partner was not asked to participate in this movie".

This raised a few red flags with me. Obviously there's another side to this story but the movie makers saw it fit to omit it. The movie makers should have given both sides of the story and then let the viewer decided which side they sympathize with. However, what they did is given one side, Fish's side, painted his ex partner as this faceless villain who's out for blood and made Fish look like the victim even though at the end his ex partner signed the papers and did not peruse legal action for Fish's decision to show FEZ at PAX, before there was a signature, even though he was clearly not allowed to.

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#23 Posted by algertman (852 posts) -

@mordukai said:

@algertman said:

@mordukai said:

@algertman said:

My God. Thank you Team Meat for making this watchable. Phil Fish is douche bag and Johnathon Blow is a tool. They are completely full of shit.

Those were my views on them but after watching this movie I can understand why they behave the way they do.

My main criticism of the film is that Phil Fish's former partner did not get his "15 minutes" to express his side of the story. I would have excepted his omission from the movie if he was asked and then refused but the makers saw it fot not to include him. To me that made the whole Fez section of the movie very much one sided story.

Fish acted like a spoiled little shit. It also makes the indie scene look pathetic that Fez won awards as far back as '08.

The ex-partner was not asked to be part of the movie I don't think. They also don't mention things like the new partner being involved with getting the movie made.

"Phil Fish's ex-business partner was not asked to participate in this movie".

This raised a few red flags with me. Obviously there's another side to this story but the movie makers saw it fit to omit it. The movie makers should have given both sides of the story and then let the viewer decided which side they sympathize with. However, what they did is given one side, Fish's side, painted his ex partner as this faceless villain who's out for blood and made Fish look like the victim even though at the end his ex partner signed the papers and did not peruse legal action for Fish's decision to show FEZ at PAX, before there was a signature, even though he was clearly not allowed to.

They changed it to that. It originally it said he didn't want to participate the movie, which was not true.

#24 Posted by Happenstance (467 posts) -

Its on Uk Netflix as well, I watched it earlier and really enjoyed it.

#25 Posted by Mesoian (1574 posts) -

@algertman said:

@mordukai said:

@algertman said:

My God. Thank you Team Meat for making this watchable. Phil Fish is douche bag and Johnathon Blow is a tool. They are completely full of shit.

Those were my views on them but after watching this movie I can understand why they behave the way they do.

My main criticism of the film is that Phil Fish's former partner did not get his "15 minutes" to express his side of the story. I would have excepted his omission from the movie if he was asked and then refused but the makers saw it fot not to include him. To me that made the whole Fez section of the movie very much one sided story.

Fish acted like a spoiled little shit. It also makes the indie scene look pathetic that Fez won awards as far back as '08.

The ex-partner was not asked to be part of the movie I don't think. They also don't mention things like the new partner being involved with getting the movie made.

I'll agree that there were a lot of holes in the movie, but I don't necessarily think that how Phil Fish was portrayed was one of them. The movie does a good job building up why he's so crazy about how work and such, and, while it doesn't do a good job showing the negatives of his personality in the industry, it still shows him as being relatively emotionally unstable and constantly walking this fine edge of complete financial and mental collapse. It makes for good television.

When I talked to the film makers behind the movie, I asked them why out of all of the 26 or so indie devs they talked to, they only chose to focus on stories of success. In short, the answer was because it makes for an easier story to get behind, and they ended up having to go down the same route that most indie devs do in order to have gotten that movie made (kickstarter, donations, etc). They said that the DVD would have more content on there, but I haven't seen it.

And again, people need to seperate the work from the artist. FEZ is an amazing game, regardless of whether or not you like Phil Fish.

#26 Posted by Dallas_Raines (2195 posts) -

@Mesoian said:

@algertman said:

@mordukai said:

@algertman said:

My God. Thank you Team Meat for making this watchable. Phil Fish is douche bag and Johnathon Blow is a tool. They are completely full of shit.

Those were my views on them but after watching this movie I can understand why they behave the way they do.

My main criticism of the film is that Phil Fish's former partner did not get his "15 minutes" to express his side of the story. I would have excepted his omission from the movie if he was asked and then refused but the makers saw it fot not to include him. To me that made the whole Fez section of the movie very much one sided story.

Fish acted like a spoiled little shit. It also makes the indie scene look pathetic that Fez won awards as far back as '08.

The ex-partner was not asked to be part of the movie I don't think. They also don't mention things like the new partner being involved with getting the movie made.

I'll agree that there were a lot of holes in the movie, but I don't necessarily think that how Phil Fish was portrayed was one of them. The movie does a good job building up why he's so crazy about how work and such, and, while it doesn't do a good job showing the negatives of his personality in the industry, it still shows him as being relatively emotionally unstable and constantly walking this fine edge of complete financial and mental collapse. It makes for good television.

When I talked to the film makers behind the movie, I asked them why out of all of the 26 or so indie devs they talked to, they only chose to focus on stories of success. In short, the answer was because it makes for an easier story to get behind, and they ended up having to go down the same route that most indie devs do in order to have gotten that movie made (kickstarter, donations, etc). They said that the DVD would have more content on there, but I haven't seen it.

And again, people need to seperate the work from the artist. FEZ is an amazing game, regardless of whether or not you like Phil Fish.

Yeah, look at all the subhuman garbage involved in the beloved film and music industries. Sometimes creative geniuses are complete assholes.

#27 Posted by EVO (3932 posts) -

Personally, I thought Phil Fish was cool. If anyone was a douche, it was Tommy Refenes.

#28 Posted by Nicked (257 posts) -

Watched it a few days ago and I didn't think it was that great. I didn't like incessant focus on depression and the implication that if you're an "artist" you HAVE to be depressed. That and the theme of "misunderstood artists". It just felt trite. Additionally, I don't think they incorporated Jonathan Blow into the structure very well. It's worth a watch, don't get me wrong, but I was hoping for something more focused. If the movie had just been about one of the developers it probably would have been more interesting to me.

#29 Edited by Butano (1774 posts) -

@Nicked said:

Watched it a few days ago and I didn't think it was that great. I didn't like incessant focus on depression and the implication that if you're an "artist" you HAVE to be depressed. That and the theme of "misunderstood artists". It just felt trite. Additionally, I don't think they incorporated Jonathan Blow into the structure very well. It's worth a watch, don't get me wrong, but I was hoping for something more focused. If the movie had just been about one of the developers it probably would have been more interesting to me.

Yea, I watched it last night and thought it wasn't as good as the praise has been for it. Edmund was my favorite part of the movie, while everyone else just made it that "Oh, I'm an artist and if you don't see the art, then you're unsophisticated and not worth making games for if all you want to do is 'have fun.'" Fish saying at one point that CoD and Halo were shit (no reason why, just that they are) just irked me the wrong way, and that I'm not a 'real gamer' if I play games like that.

I loved Super Meat Boy, thought Braid was pretty rad, and haven't played Fez yet cause Fish doesn't want/can't/whothefuckknowsbuthim make it a PC game.

EDIT: It was Tommy, not Fish that said the CoD/Halo comment. My mistake.

#30 Posted by Djstyles92 (953 posts) -

The only likable guy in the entire movie was Edmund. The rest of the guys are fucking crazy and annoyingly depressing

#31 Posted by ShadowConqueror (3083 posts) -

I'd been wanting to watch it for a while. Totally worth it.

#32 Posted by MarkWahlberg (4606 posts) -

@Djstyles92 said:

The only likable guy in the entire movie was Edmund. The rest of the guys are fucking crazy and annoyingly depressing

I got about 5 minutes into the movie and gave up. If your opening scene is some whiny man-child cursing at his xbox, you're not exactly making your audience believe this is a guy worth listening to. And yeah, everyone else just seemed like self-absorbed assholes.

#33 Edited by algertman (852 posts) -

@MarkWahlberg said:

@Djstyles92 said:

The only likable guy in the entire movie was Edmund. The rest of the guys are fucking crazy and annoyingly depressing

I got about 5 minutes into the movie and gave up. If your opening scene is some whiny man-child cursing at his xbox, you're not exactly making your audience believe this is a guy worth listening to. And yeah, everyone else just seemed like self-absorbed assholes.

That was the other half of Team Meat with Edmund. The guy you mentioned is actually not that bad. He comes off like he has fried his brain working on Meat Boy but they go more into his personal life than some of the others and he comes off better than Fish or Blow. The first thing he wanted to do with his money was pay his parents house off.

But the opening scene, damn, is it bad.

#34 Posted by CosmicBatman (317 posts) -

@mordukai said:

@algertman said:

@mordukai said:

@algertman said:

My God. Thank you Team Meat for making this watchable. Phil Fish is douche bag and Johnathon Blow is a tool. They are completely full of shit.

Those were my views on them but after watching this movie I can understand why they behave the way they do.

My main criticism of the film is that Phil Fish's former partner did not get his "15 minutes" to express his side of the story. I would have excepted his omission from the movie if he was asked and then refused but the makers saw it fot not to include him. To me that made the whole Fez section of the movie very much one sided story.

Fish acted like a spoiled little shit. It also makes the indie scene look pathetic that Fez won awards as far back as '08.

The ex-partner was not asked to be part of the movie I don't think. They also don't mention things like the new partner being involved with getting the movie made.

"Phil Fish's ex-business partner was not asked to participate in this movie".

This raised a few red flags with me. Obviously there's another side to this story but the movie makers saw it fit to omit it. The movie makers should have given both sides of the story and then let the viewer decided which side they sympathize with. However, what they did is given one side, Fish's side, painted his ex partner as this faceless villain who's out for blood and made Fish look like the victim even though at the end his ex partner signed the papers and did not peruse legal action for Fish's decision to show FEZ at PAX, before there was a signature, even though he was clearly not allowed to.

There is also a chance that they avoided talking to his partner for fear of losing Phil from the movie, or the legal reasons at the time. Also, it probably wouldn't fit in with the flow of the movie although I would definitely would like to see the other side of the story (We already know Phil is kind of a douche).

#35 Posted by mordukai (7184 posts) -

@CosmicBatman said:

@mordukai said:

@algertman said:

@mordukai said:

@algertman said:

My God. Thank you Team Meat for making this watchable. Phil Fish is douche bag and Johnathon Blow is a tool. They are completely full of shit.

Those were my views on them but after watching this movie I can understand why they behave the way they do.

My main criticism of the film is that Phil Fish's former partner did not get his "15 minutes" to express his side of the story. I would have excepted his omission from the movie if he was asked and then refused but the makers saw it fot not to include him. To me that made the whole Fez section of the movie very much one sided story.

Fish acted like a spoiled little shit. It also makes the indie scene look pathetic that Fez won awards as far back as '08.

The ex-partner was not asked to be part of the movie I don't think. They also don't mention things like the new partner being involved with getting the movie made.

"Phil Fish's ex-business partner was not asked to participate in this movie".

This raised a few red flags with me. Obviously there's another side to this story but the movie makers saw it fit to omit it. The movie makers should have given both sides of the story and then let the viewer decided which side they sympathize with. However, what they did is given one side, Fish's side, painted his ex partner as this faceless villain who's out for blood and made Fish look like the victim even though at the end his ex partner signed the papers and did not peruse legal action for Fish's decision to show FEZ at PAX, before there was a signature, even though he was clearly not allowed to.

There is also a chance that they avoided talking to his partner for fear of losing Phil from the movie, or the legal reasons at the time. Also, it probably wouldn't fit in with the flow of the movie although I would definitely would like to see the other side of the story (We already know Phil is kind of a douche).

If Phil Fish would have pulled out because they interviewed his former partner then you would know that something was up and maybe he's not the victim he makes himself to be. It's obvious from the movie that Fish is a very hard person to get along with on a personal level. I'm sure that his partner has a very different view on the events spoken of in the movie.

My problem is not with Phil Fish himself but more with the movie makers and the way they omitted that part of the story. Also the way that they painted his former partner as someone who's trying to "ruin" Phil. If he was out for blood then he would have A.) Sued the living shit out of Phil Fish for showing FEZ at PAX before the papers were signed and B.) Not sign the contract at all.

I'm sure that when the day comes and that partner decides it's time for him to tell his side then he would be able to find the outlet for it.

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#36 Posted by AlfredCapone (164 posts) -

@Redbullet685 said:

Just finished it and have to say that it was definitely amazing. Loved it. Also, a lot of GB represented in it!

#37 Posted by kishinfoulux (2473 posts) -

@algertman said:

My God. Thank you Team Meat for making this watchable. Phil Fish is douche bag and Johnathon Blow is a tool. They are completely full of shit.

Honestly I thought they were just as douchey as Fish. They just seem incredibly arrogant.

#38 Posted by MikkaQ (10336 posts) -

@Labman said:

@the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG said:

Im assuming its not out in Canada? I should just look this up....

I'm guessing no...we Canadians always get the shitty end of the Netflix stick. But, I can assure you, it is a great doc and well worth the $9.99 sticker price if you choose to buy!

We do but there are simple VPN solutions to that problem.

#39 Posted by Labman (288 posts) -

@MikkaQ: True that! But, my Internet connection is crappy at the best of times...route it through a VPN and it would crawl. Definitely not fast enough to stream movies.

#40 Posted by Eidderf (507 posts) -

@Butano:It was Tommy from Team Meat who had the little rant about CoD and Halo not Phil Fish, but I agree it would have been better if he was given time to explain that view point instead of just dismissing more mainstream games without any real reason.

#41 Posted by Butano (1774 posts) -

@Eidderf: Ooops. My mistake! That's what I get for starting to watch it at midnight and finishing it at 2:00am I guess.

#42 Posted by LaszloKovacs (1198 posts) -

Nice, thanks for the heads-up.

#43 Posted by EVO (3932 posts) -

@Eidderf said:

@Butano:It was Tommy from Team Meat who had the little rant about CoD and Halo not Phil Fish

I thought it was Edmund?

#44 Posted by Butano (1774 posts) -

@EVO said:

@Eidderf said:

@Butano:It was Tommy from Team Meat who had the little rant about CoD and Halo not Phil Fish

I thought it was Edmund?

Not gonna watch the movie again to find the part, but Bungie says it was Tommy.

#45 Posted by EVO (3932 posts) -

@Butano said:

@EVO said:

@Eidderf said:

@Butano:It was Tommy from Team Meat who had the little rant about CoD and Halo not Phil Fish

I thought it was Edmund?

Not gonna watch the movie again to find the part, but Bungie says it was Tommy.

Yeah, you're probably right.