Just a random question which flew in my head as I was watching some video on youtube. I am not entirely sure what ''calculus'' is there, but do Americans have stuff like limits, integrals and derivatives as mandatory lessons in HS ?
Do Americans have calculus in HS ?
Not all HS kids are required to take it, but there are Calculus courses offered at the high school level in the United States.
EDIT: After reading your question at the end, instead of just the topic and the first sentence. No the courses are NOT mandatory, but they are available for students who have an...aptitude toward somewhat higher level mathematics.
Not sure. I am fairly certain we have integrals and limits in High School.
(I haven't done High School level work for around 3-4 years so I don't remember if we had that. I may be confusing it with my college calculus class)
Yeah but its only for NERDS! lol in all seriousness though i took per-calculus in 11th grade and decided not to take any more math in 12th. At my high school they offered calculus, trigonometry and statistics.
In my NJ public High School, the base math track was Algebra, Geometry, Algebry 2, Pre-Calc. Myself along with other students were in advanced math classes since Elementary School and started ahead at either Geometry or Algebra 2 and reached either 1 or 2 years of Calculus in High School. I'd say
Not mandatory. In my high school, you needed three years of math, so most people took Algebra I and II, and Geometry.
I could have taken it my senior year, but wussed out and took Statistics. I immediately regretted that decision it in college.
@Dany said:
It depends on the district and the school. My HS requires at least 4 years of math now and almost everyone starts at Algebra so they take it up to Trig while the advanced students take AP Calc. OR that was how it was when I graduated.
@penINC said:
Is it wrong that I find it hard to respect anyone who hasn't studied calculus?
While calculus is definitely useful it's not necessary in a lot of productive fields and there's plenty of people who took calc in high school and are doing jack shit with it in their lives.
Not mandatory. In my high school, you needed three years of math, so most people took Algebra I and II, and Geometry.Dudewhat? Algebra I was middle school for my school district.
@penINC said:
Is it wrong that I find it hard to respect anyone who hasn't studied calculus?
Depends, when given an optional choice instead of calculus I took Chinese. So you tell me which is harder or demands more respect.
@Spotshadow said:
@penINC said:
Is it wrong that I find it hard to respect anyone who hasn't studied calculus?
Depends, when given an optional choice instead of calculus I took Chinese. So you tell me which is harder or demands more respect.
That's comparing Apples to Oranges. I don't care what they say about language uses the same part of the brain as mathematics, I still think that some will find language to be easier than calculus and vice versa. But they both have something in common: they require a lot of practice to become proficient.
But on the topic wise, it was optional. Though if you need to get into University, they normally want you to have it anyways which is why I took it. I haven't really used a lot of my high school math in years though.
@MrBLT said:
@Spotshadow said:
@penINC said:
Is it wrong that I find it hard to respect anyone who hasn't studied calculus?
Depends, when given an optional choice instead of calculus I took Chinese. So you tell me which is harder or demands more respect.
That's comparing Apples to Oranges. I don't care what they say about language uses the same part of the brain as mathematics, I still think that some will find language to be easier than calculus and vice versa. But they both have something in common: they require a lot of practice to become proficient.
But on the topic wise, it was optional. Though if you need to get into University, they normally want you to have it anyways which is why I took it. I haven't really used a lot of my high school math in years though.
Wait, are you seriously comparing learning Chinese to calculus? Calculus isn't even that hard, what is with you people.
Not necessarily. We have AP AB (or was it BC?) Calc. here, but there's still a fair chunk of people that took Pre-Calc their senior year (myself-included) and are going into fields that require higher mathematics.
I still think it's unnecessary unless you want to go into a strictly mathematics degree, and even then it isn't really too high a priority if you're good enough to keep up in class with the people that took the stuff a year before you. I felt like I had a better grasp on basic differential calc. from my academic decathlon stuff (hell yeah) than some of the AP Calc kids.
At my high school no calculus courses were required but they were offered. The first was pre-calculus, which anyone could take if they took a math class all four years that covered the basics of limits, integrals, and derivatives. If you chose to take two math classes one year or Algebra I in middle school, then you could take calculus your senior year without ever having to double up on math classes.
Kind of. My high school offered Pre-Cal to those with good enough math grades and you could choose to take AP Calculus for a college credit. There wasn't a regular Calculus class though.
My high school was terrible though so I don't know if that's the norm.
@SurferZ said:
In my NJ public High School, the base math track was Algebra, Geometry, Algebry 2, Pre-Calc. Myself along with other students were in advanced math classes since Elementary School and started ahead at either Geometry or Algebra 2 and reached either 1 or 2 years of Calculus in High School. I'd say <25% made it to Calculus.
Yeah, this was how my school was.
@penINC said:
Is it wrong that I find it hard to respect anyone who hasn't studied calculus?
Yep.
It is not required, only advanced students take it, but "Pre-Calculus" is a standard course that is usually taken senior year.
I took calculus in high school but it wasn't mandatory.
EDIT: I'm in the US. California specifically.
@CaptainCody said:
@MrBLT said:
@Spotshadow said:
@penINC said:
Is it wrong that I find it hard to respect anyone who hasn't studied calculus?
Depends, when given an optional choice instead of calculus I took Chinese. So you tell me which is harder or demands more respect.
That's comparing Apples to Oranges. I don't care what they say about language uses the same part of the brain as mathematics, I still think that some will find language to be easier than calculus and vice versa. But they both have something in common: they require a lot of practice to become proficient.
But on the topic wise, it was optional. Though if you need to get into University, they normally want you to have it anyways which is why I took it. I haven't really used a lot of my high school math in years though.
Wait, are you seriously comparing learning Chinese to calculus? Calculus isn't even that hard, what is with you people.
And it's not. There's much harder maths out than Calculus.
@penINC said:
Is it wrong that I find it hard to respect anyone who hasn't studied calculus?
Nah, that just makes you a NERD! NEERRRRRRDDDD!
My school offered pre-calculus and calculus. The former is mandatory and the latter is optional. I'm good at math up until calculus. Fuck that shit.
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