Do you like Punk music? (Question of the Day 12-7-10)

Meh. It's allright.

Not particularly^^ 

Yes I do.

Yes, yes I do. And all its variations as well!

Like most types of music I like some. Anything on the radio classified as punk Fuck no.

Well, not that poprock that is considered punk nowadays in the US, but i like older stuff like The Ramones and harder newer stuff like Pennywise.

big pop-punk fan; New Found Glory, Blink 182. As well as some of the older stuff like Rancid and Pennywise.

 
I clicked yes, if you consider US Punk 'Punk', that includes all the 'arty' / avant garde stuff going back to velvet underground, but particularly bands like The Stooges, MC5 and New York Dolls but also bands / artists from the new york 'early to mid 70s' scene like Suicide, Patti Smith, Ramones, Television and bands from cleveland and other areas of america like rocket from the tombs, pere ubu or death 
  
there is only one good UK punk band which is XRay Spex, everything else sucked, not that its bad but i dislike how bands like sex pistols, clash and damned got labelled as punk just because they couldnt play their instruments (even though some could) - pistols don't count because they were too young and got used by malcolm mclaren, joe strummer (and others like chyrssie hynde) happened upon the scene while they were looking for something to use and as such the clash are comparable to the Stones in terms of scale and breadth of musical content (not talent though, the Stones are pretty much the best there is)
 
so i don't rate UK Punk as Punk if you're talking about music created by the US bands i mentioned, so i categorise it as US Art Rock and UK Punk, the uk bands didn't really get the US bands, for example the UK punk scene was based on working class kids and a 'life sucks' kind of mentality, but the US bands like new york dolls in particular had a 'life sucks, so what are we going to do about it' attitude. 
 
later stuff in the 80s was quite good, that post-punk ideal like the Fall and Blondie on either side of the atlantic, but otherwise there was a lot of crap that called itself post punk so its kind of forgotten as pop music, but bands like the Fall especially and Blondie created really good music 
 
that stuff kinda gave way to the 90s hardcore scene and grunge, i've never really liked that kinda of punk, but some bands were great like early black flag and bad brains - who were greatly inspired by Death - and i enjoyed grunge more than hardcore because being able to play a 3min song in under a minute doesn't appeal to me
 
 then the 00s stuff like blink 182 / green day all that shit just isnt punk, its bad enough people can't differentiate between actual punk bands let alone bands like this, just not a fan of this stuff, really ineffectual music
 
but to answer the question, yeh i like punk, had a whole punk phase - which was also tied with a blues phase (another type of 2minute song written by people who had to be creative with guitar) so my own style of playing is weird
  
incidentally, i've seen The Stooges (three times), New York Dolls (three times), MC5 and Suicide.  

I like the Ramones.

To some extent.

THE OFFSPRING!!!

Okay this is just getting motherfucking retarded. Honestly. 

I chose C. "meh" i can take it or leave it. 
 
Also you,re questions are getting more and more lame... are you running out of ideas?

" I chose C. "meh" i can take it or leave it.  Also you,re questions are getting more and more lame... are you running out of ideas? "

"  I clicked yes, if you consider US Punk 'Punk', that includes all the 'arty' / avant garde stuff going back to velvet underground, but particularly bands like The Stooges, MC5 and New York Dolls but also bands / artists from the new york 'early to mid 70s' scene like Suicide, Patti Smith, Ramones, Television and bands from cleveland and other areas of america like rocket from the tombs, pere ubu or death   there is only one good UK punk band which is XRay Spex, everything else sucked, not that its bad but i dislike how bands like sex pistols, clash and damned got labelled as punk just because they couldnt play their instruments (even though some could) - pistols don't count because they were too young and got used by malcolm mclaren, joe strummer (and others like chyrssie hynde) happened upon the scene while they were looking for something to use and as such the clash are comparable to the Stones in terms of scale and breadth of musical content (not talent though, the Stones are pretty much the best there is) so i don't rate UK Punk as Punk if you're talking about music created by the US bands i mentioned, so i categorise it as US Art Rock and UK Punk, the uk bands didn't really get the US bands, for example the UK punk scene was based on working class kids and a 'life sucks' kind of mentality, but the US bands like new york dolls in particular had a 'life sucks, so what are we going to do about it' attitude.  later stuff in the 80s was quite good, that post-punk ideal like the Fall and Blondie on either side of the atlantic, but otherwise there was a lot of crap that called itself post punk so its kind of forgotten as pop music, but bands like the Fall especially and Blondie created really good music  that stuff kinda gave way to the 90s hardcore scene and grunge, i've never really liked that kinda of punk, but some bands were great like early black flag and bad brains - who were greatly inspired by Death - and i enjoyed grunge more than hardcore because being able to play a 3min song in under a minute doesn't appeal to me  then the 00s stuff like blink 182 / green day all that shit just isnt punk, its bad enough people can't differentiate between actual punk bands let alone bands like this, just not a fan of this stuff, really ineffectual music but to answer the question, yeh i like punk, had a whole punk phase - which was also tied with a blues phase (another type of 2minute song written by people who had to be creative with guitar) so my own style of playing is weird  incidentally, i've seen The Stooges (three times), New York Dolls (three times), MC5 and Suicide.   "

" @CptChiken said:

" I chose C. "meh" i can take it or leave it.  Also you,re questions are getting more and more lame... are you running out of ideas? "

The questions haven't gotten any lamer, considering people said this when I first started. The vocal minority. Unless you think this is lamer than hamburger vs hot dogs, et al. But I digress. 
 
@RockAction said:

"  I clicked yes, if you consider US Punk 'Punk', that includes all the 'arty' / avant garde stuff going back to velvet underground, but particularly bands like The Stooges, MC5 and New York Dolls but also bands / artists from the new york 'early to mid 70s' scene like Suicide, Patti Smith, Ramones, Television and bands from cleveland and other areas of america like rocket from the tombs, pere ubu or death   there is only one good UK punk band which is XRay Spex, everything else sucked, not that its bad but i dislike how bands like sex pistols, clash and damned got labelled as punk just because they couldnt play their instruments (even though some could) - pistols don't count because they were too young and got used by malcolm mclaren, joe strummer (and others like chyrssie hynde) happened upon the scene while they were looking for something to use and as such the clash are comparable to the Stones in terms of scale and breadth of musical content (not talent though, the Stones are pretty much the best there is) so i don't rate UK Punk as Punk if you're talking about music created by the US bands i mentioned, so i categorise it as US Art Rock and UK Punk, the uk bands didn't really get the US bands, for example the UK punk scene was based on working class kids and a 'life sucks' kind of mentality, but the US bands like new york dolls in particular had a 'life sucks, so what are we going to do about it' attitude.  later stuff in the 80s was quite good, that post-punk ideal like the Fall and Blondie on either side of the atlantic, but otherwise there was a lot of crap that called itself post punk so its kind of forgotten as pop music, but bands like the Fall especially and Blondie created really good music  that stuff kinda gave way to the 90s hardcore scene and grunge, i've never really liked that kinda of punk, but some bands were great like early black flag and bad brains - who were greatly inspired by Death - and i enjoyed grunge more than hardcore because being able to play a 3min song in under a minute doesn't appeal to me  then the 00s stuff like blink 182 / green day all that shit just isnt punk, its bad enough people can't differentiate between actual punk bands let alone bands like this, just not a fan of this stuff, really ineffectual music but to answer the question, yeh i like punk, had a whole punk phase - which was also tied with a blues phase (another type of 2minute song written by people who had to be creative with guitar) so my own style of playing is weird  incidentally, i've seen The Stooges (three times), New York Dolls (three times), MC5 and Suicide.   "

Wow, props on the huge explanation! :D The problem with genres in general is that no one really agrees and there's lots of overlap. That's why I'm trying to keep it simple with core overarching genres and not sub-genres. My original question was going to be "Do you like Hardcore" but I ultimately came to the conclusion that I wouldn't ask that as it's a sub-genre and/or extension to/from Punk. And there's a million-and-1 subgenres.   "

Nuetral, I find the problem lies within the people who listen to punk music (as i find with metal). Why do you feel the need to dress up in a costume because of a genre of music you listen to after the age of 16? 
 
My wife has a lot of friends who are "punks" and I find it ridiculous. Here she is making fun of goths, emos and hipsters but in the end, they all wear their own (stupid) costumes. 

Yeah, only the stuff from the 70's though, that other shit isn't real punk.

Yeah i do, The Clash, Rise Against and even Green Day. I like it all.

I absolutely love The Clash (they would definitely be amoung of my top five favorite musicians of all time), but as for punk in general, I feel kind of meh. Also, as is the case with pretty much any music related subculture, the scene that surrounds it is totally laughable.

Yes

i like good punk,  yes.

Not really. Some old stuff like the Ramones I consider listen-able, but I don't really like it. And as with most music, the modern stuff is worse (in my opinion). 

I got into punk when I was 14. I wasn't that into it and a lot of the bands were hit or miss for me, coming form the metal scene. But, punk was my path to discovering industrial and some of the European metal stuff that I had not previously been exposed to, so I will always appreciate it. Also introduced me to a lot of kick ass underground bands that don't really fall under the punk label, but are still on the same wavelength.  
 
Example: 
 
  

For the most part no, but there's some punk I like.

Pulling on my boots and threading up the laces???

Its alright.

Depends on the style of punk and the band.

" Depends on the style of punk and the band. "

I Enjoy punk myself. Nofx, rancid, Anti-flag, Choking Victim, and The Clash are awesome.  
 
Plus I know i'll get flak for this but The Clash > Ramones. 
 
 
EDIT: Also forgot about Joy Division, Bad Religion and Flogging Molly.

Hells Yeah. Although I tend not to like people who consider themselves "punks" all that much. They're conforming to a fashion set by non-conformists, who all moved on long ago when they realised they were being homogenised adn went on to sell fucking butter! 
  

Sure do.

Only if it's Daft.  
 
But to answer the question, no not really.

Bad Brains.Half punk, half Reggae. Fully BADASS!

punk is one of the few genres i've been listening to since i was a kid.  
 
So yes.

I hate punk. I think. Some of you guys are naming off bands, like Rise Against, that I absolutely love but wouldn't consider to be punk in a thousand years; they're more alternative. I really don't like Green Day, and that singer from Blink 182 wouldn't be any more high-pitched and annoying if someone kicked him in the junk. There are few things that make me scramble for a mute button faster than "All the Small Things". Bad Religion is about the only exception, as they're one of my favorite bands. I also like AFI, but they're not really a punk band anymore.

it's alright. i don't really like it all that much.

I love Punk Rock, adn I can find good bands in almost any off-shoot of the genre. At the moment I'm finding myself to enjoy the faster hardcore punk the most, but that won't stop me from enjoying Ghost Mice, The Misfits or Bikini Kill when I'm in the mood for it.
 
A complaint often thrown at the punk scene is the perceived insult that "they(we) can not play". While it is true that many performers might lack technical skills, what has always made me return to punk rock is the focus on writing songs, rather than worrying about instrumental brilliance. I'd rather listen to someone playing songs from the heart that resonate with me and my life, albeit slightly out of tune, than having to listen to formulaic "perfection". But that's just me, though. I understand why punk rock isn't for everyone.

"A complaint often thrown at the punk scene is the perceived insult that "they(we) can not play". While it is true that many performers might lack technical skills, what has always made me return to punk rock is the focus on writing songs, rather than worrying about instrumental brilliance. I'd rather listen to someone playing songs from the heart that resonate with me and my life, albeit slightly out of tune, than having to listen to formulaic "perfection". But that's just me, though. I understand why punk rock isn't for everyone. "

Anarchy for the fucking UK

" Anarchy for the fucking UK "

"                  

 
     Punk is not Rise Against. "

Yes. 

" I love Punk Rock, adn I can find good bands in almost any off-shoot of the genre. At the moment I'm finding myself to enjoy the faster hardcore punk the most, but that won't stop me from enjoying Ghost Mice, The Misfits or Bikini Kill when I'm in the mood for it.
 
A complaint often thrown at the punk scene is the perceived insult that "they(we) can not play". While it is true that many performers might lack technical skills, what has always made me return to punk rock is the focus on writing songs, rather than worrying about instrumental brilliance. I'd rather listen to someone playing songs from the heart that resonate with me and my life, albeit slightly out of tune, than having to listen to formulaic "perfection". But that's just me, though. I understand why punk rock isn't for everyone. "

"Punk is not Green Day or Rise Against. "

" @TheJohn said:

" I love Punk Rock, adn I can find good bands in almost any off-shoot of the genre. At the moment I'm finding myself to enjoy the faster hardcore punk the most, but that won't stop me from enjoying Ghost Mice, The Misfits or Bikini Kill when I'm in the mood for it.
 
A complaint often thrown at the punk scene is the perceived insult that "they(we) can not play". While it is true that many performers might lack technical skills, what has always made me return to punk rock is the focus on writing songs, rather than worrying about instrumental brilliance. I'd rather listen to someone playing songs from the heart that resonate with me and my life, albeit slightly out of tune, than having to listen to formulaic "perfection". But that's just me, though. I understand why punk rock isn't for everyone. "

The only part of music that takes any kind of natural talent to do is singing. You can learn literally any instrument, if you just put the effort in. So poor musicianship really equates to laziness on the part of the performer.  Honestly, I've been playing music for close to 9 years now, and I can tell you that this is the absolute truth. If someone wants to be good at an instrument, all they have to do is actually try.  Singing I'm not sure of; I'm not a singer, so I can't speak to how well your average joe could learn to sing. As such, I might allow poor singing in the face of focus on craft, as you say. But not being able to play the damn instrument just means you're not willing to put the work in.  Also, "perfection" in music follows no formula. There's some jazz from the '70s that you could listen to and swear the guys in the band weren't even playing in the same room because it sounds so...bad (sort of). I'm talking about masters of the craft, guys like Miles Davis, sounding like they don't even know what song they're on. But they were in pursuit of a new sound, and broke literally all the rules. It never became popular, because most people would probably call it crap. But it was their search for a new thing.  Just my take on it. Also, I don't like punk music, so answered "no". But I'm not judging anyone who likes it. When I call someone a punk, I'm not referring to their clothing style or choice of music; I'm referring to the fact that their attitude towards me makes me want to punch them in the face. So even if you listen to punk, as long as you're not an asshat who goes around sneering, glaring, and generally looking with disgust at me, I'm not going to call you a punk. Unless you want me to. "

 I'm not trying be come off as elitist, snobbish, or standoffish. It's just irritating when someone hears "punk" and the only thing that comes to mind is Blink 182 or Green Day. Worse is someone who claims to like punk that has never heard of the Misfits. Presently punk has become an influence that has spread across a spectrum bands of so wildly different that they sound like they're from different planets. Yet the present "punk" that the majority of people recognize today is typically only the most overly commercialized garbage and some of the poorest examples of the genre available. All I'm trying to do is establish an insight on some of the roots of the genre so the people posting in this thread can make somewhat more of an educated opinion.