I would have posted this in a book recommendation thread, but the latest one hasn't been active for like 5 months, and I don't think anyone would notice if I posted this in there, so.
Anyway, my knowledge of modern literature is pathetic, and recently I'm trying to fix that, but it's hard to find any I like. I prefer a straightforward, sort of dry style of writing that doesn't seem to be used much anymore, which is why I gravitate towards older writers. A couple of examples: I picked up 2001: A Space Odyssey the other day and I really like Clarke's writing, but a while back I tried to read Ender's Game and the style was grating to me right away. I want to call it stream of consciousness, though I'm not sure that's the right phrase, but at any rate I hated it. I'm sure it's a great book and everything, but it's not for me.
I'm looking for any good novels that are written in a low-key detached style, and aren't super depressing or anything. Any sort of subject matter, but especially historical fiction or sci-fi.
Good fiction from the last 20 years? (read OP)
DUNE. It's not within the past 20 years. However it's amazing. Snow Crash as well.
Vonnegut and Palahinuk are pretty awesome modern writers.
Scott Sigler is good too for Sci-Fi/Horror books.
Reading 'The Dark Tower' epic form Stephen King right now. First book is all over the place (it's one of his first books), but the second one is a huge improvement storytelling-wise. If quality further increases, The Dark Tower might well turn out ot be my favorite epic fiction written in the last 20 years - actually I believe the first book was written in the late 60s/early 70s... so it's more like 40 years old, but since the final chapter was written in the 2000s, I guess it's a valid choice.
I was going to say The Road, but that book is a little on the depressing side....to say the least.LOL just a tad. I found the road kind of irritating to read (the style of the writing i mean). Decent book just for some reason took longer to read than usual.
Not quite what your asking but last THING I read was the Walking dead graphic novels id heard so much about and loved each one of them, cant wait for the next one.
Im enjoying Orcs by Stan Nicholls at the minute also recently finished Blood of Elves by Andrzej Sapkowski another great read
@Deeveeus said:
Pillars of the Earth. Hands down may favorite book! So amazingly epic without being fantasy. Just an amazing historical fiction novelI tried to read that. How can you seriously compare it to fantasy, which is built on scale, sex and blood? I remember getting to about page 300 and all there was for me to enjoy was some boring intrigue and bride-building. I'm not saying it was terrible or anything, but it's definitely not as exciting as fantasy.
Can't recommend Cormac McCarthy enough, No Country For Old Men and The Road are amazing and I've heard nothing but praise for Blood Meridian but just havn't gotten around to it. If your a sci-fi or philosophy fan Richard K. Morgan has written some great stuff particularly dealing with existentialism, and what it means to be human when people have used technology to become more than human. And while I think the sequels are total garbage Stieg Larsons The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo is one of my favorites of the last few years. Excellent mystery and thriller though the sequels take the story to ridiculous places and changes the genre from mystery to practically self labeled Bourne knock off.
Thanks for the suggestions, but goddamn. McCarthy should really be introduced to the concept of quotation marks.
I'm not following your instructions here but I can't recommend Starter For Ten by David Nicholls enough. I picked it up a few days ago and finished it that same day. Not because it's super short (it's a decent length); it's just a hilarious comedy. Similarly I would also recommend Skippy Dies by Paul Murray which is a little strange but full of humour and heart.
Read 'Stranger in Strange Land' last year. A book by Robert A. Heinlein about an unplanned human baby orphaned on Mars raised by Martians and then returning to Earth with a rather Martian mind.
It's pretty much the entertainment equivalent of the bible for liberitarians and hippies. Loads of fun.
Guess special effects are finally at a place, where a movie or mini-series would be possible. That'd be awesome. Seeing how 'A Game of Thrones' is produces by 'GROK Entertainment' or something along the lines, that might eventually happen.
Why are people sugguesting Mcarthy Cormac again? That guy is a hack job at best, he is the laziest writer ever. I am not joking about that fact. He is the master of run on sentences and not using any of these ',' or these '.' or finally this, 'PARAGRAPHS!' All he does it write a single line of words and presses the damn enter key to make another one, he is the most joke worthy author of all time. Just for the fact of how famous he is now for nearly killing the written word. His books are confusing, they are not poetic, being poetic involves actual talent. He does not have any talent at all.
Now, Swan Song by Robert R MCcammon, THAT is a book. older sure. but damn, I cannot recommend it enough. The fallout games were somewhat based on Swan Song and Stephen Kings The Stand actually. (There is a huge debate on which book is actually better, SS or TS, Personally, it has to be SS for the fact that it has better characters and the Apocalypse is actually a Apocalypse, not just a disease. Also for the fact that it may be depressing at parts, but when the parts with hope and happiness are in, they are masterfully done. I fucking cry every time I read this book start to finish, it is a classic.
Why are people sugguesting Mcarthy Cormac again? That guy is a hack job at best, he is the laziest writer ever. I am not joking about that fact. He is the master of run on sentences and not using any of these ',' or these '.' or finally this, 'PARAGRAPHS!' All he does it write a single line of words and presses the damn enter key to make another one, he is the most joke worthy author of all time. Just for the fact of how famous he is now for nearly killing the written word. His books are confusing, they are not poetic, being poetic involves actual talent. He does not have any talent at all. Now, Swan Song by Robert R MCcammon, THAT is a book. older sure. but damn, I cannot recommend it enough. The fallout games were somewhat based on Swan Song and Stephen Kings The Stand actually. (There is a huge debate on which book is actually better, SS or TS, Personally, it has to be SS for the fact that it has better characters and the Apocalypse is actually a Apocalypse, not just a disease. Also for the fact that it may be depressing at parts, but when the parts with hope and happiness are in, they are masterfully done. I fucking cry every time I read this book start to finish, it is a classic.
You claim to be a writer. You think video games have stories that rival books and movies. You are ill-informed.
Cormac McCarthy intentionally breaks the rules of writing to achieve a desired effect. That is something that an expert in their field, an "artist" or "master of their craft", can do. Cormac McCarthy probably knows all the rules of good writing. Since he knows those rules, he knows how and when to break those rules properly and for a specific purpose. Every rule in every type of art can be broken; there is no such thing as an "unbreakable" rule in art. Some of the best directors break film-making conventions just as some of the best authors break writing conventions. The rules are meant as guidelines, and they allow people to elevate their work if they are not skilled enough to make their own rules.
I'm not McCarthy's biggest fan, but he's one of the best living writers today. There's a reason his books get huge critical acclaim. People that know good writing and know what makes good writing applaud his work. They know what makes a story well-told or well-written better than you. They also know the rules of writing and know how or when those rules can be broken. Please stop talking like you have any informed stance on writing.
You are not a writer.
You are someone who enjoys writing.
If this is not true, show us some of your published or paid writing work.
Otherwise, please, please, please stop masquerading as someone who knows what they're talking about, when you're someone that can't string a coherent argument together or use grammer and punctuation properly. You didn't even know that Cormac McCarthy's name wasn't Mcarthy Cormac, somehow, despite admitting that you've seen his proper name written throughout this thread multiple times. You are clearly not someone whose opinion on his work is worthwhile.
I suggest you try reading Ray Bradbury. His books are a little depressing as he has a negative opinion of human nature, but I think his stories are very good and well written. Farenheight 451, The Martian Chronicles, and The Illustrated Man are all books that I have read that I can say are good, and I know he has other great ones. Possibly best science fiction books I have ever read.
Half of the recommendations in this thread are classics. I'm not sure you all grasp the concept of "modern".
@Wrighteous86: Don't bother arguing with Jay444111. He's the guy who made those threads about being a writer a few months back and such.
@Jay444111 said:
Why are people sugguesting Mcarthy Cormac again? That guy is a hack job at best, he is the laziest writer ever. I am not joking about that fact. He is the master of run on sentences and not using any of these ',' or these '.' or finally this, 'PARAGRAPHS!' All he does it write a single line of words and presses the damn enter key to make another one, he is the most joke worthy author of all time. Just for the fact of how famous he is now for nearly killing the written word. His books are confusing, they are not poetic, being poetic involves actual talent. He does not have any talent at all. Now, Swan Song by Robert R MCcammon, THAT is a book. older sure. but damn, I cannot recommend it enough. The fallout games were somewhat based on Swan Song and Stephen Kings The Stand actually. (There is a huge debate on which book is actually better, SS or TS, Personally, it has to be SS for the fact that it has better characters and the Apocalypse is actually a Apocalypse, not just a disease. Also for the fact that it may be depressing at parts, but when the parts with hope and happiness are in, they are masterfully done. I fucking cry every time I read this book start to finish, it is a classic.
How the hell can you call Cormac McCarthy a hack writer when you can't actually spell his name? Have you ever read anything by him? The Road is considered one of the best post-apocalyptic stories and it won the Pulitzer Prize, not to mention No Country For Old Men. Don't insult great writers for grammar when your own grammar leaves much to be desired. "hai guiz Ernest Hemingway iz a bad writter cuz hiz storys dont have no endings." Come on man. McCarthy is a damn good writer and playwright (Sunset Limited is a modern classic play. Fantastic stuff, there.). It's fine if you dislike him but don't make shit up about him. I've read several of his books and "master of the run-on sentence" he is not.
Not sure if you can call it a classic but, due to the fantastic HBO show, I started reading the Song of Ice and Fire series by George R.R. Martin and it's a fantastic fantasy series.
Edit: OP, if you enjoy straightforward writing then I must recommend my personal favorite author, Hemingway (though he's not modern, he's still a fantastic read, but I would guess you've already read some of his stuff.)
@example1013 said:
Half of the recommendations in this thread are classics. I'm not sure you all grasp the concept of "modern".
That's OK, most of it is newer than the stuff I usually read anyway.
@MariachiMacabre: Guys. This is Jay444111 we're talking about. Want me to link you to some of his older threads about his "professional writing"?
@awe_stuck said:
philip k dick books, lolita by nabokov, franny and zooey by jd salinger, game of thrones, richard dawkins books, and umm i dont know freakonomics.
This is a fantastically entertaining read.
also, example1013, PLEASE link some of his old threads so I can relive them. They were all so terrible.
Chuck Palahniuk's older stuff is really good. Lullaby, in particular, is fantastic. Rant is also really good, but it's more recent and is done as an oral history. Every part of it is like the response from someone interviewed about the title character. Actually, I'd even recommend Rant over Lullaby. It has a very light sci-fi element to it: there is sensory recording/replay technology (a la Strange Days), cities have been split into 12-hour curfew periods to control traffic, and there's a super strain of rabies going around. Both books are fairly short (200 or fewer pages) and they're quick reads.
No Country For Old Men, which has already been mentioned, is really, really good. True, it has a lot of run-ons and lacks punctuation, but there's a clear reason for it. The story is one of pursuit, and the writing style gives you a real sense of urgency as you read it. That book a few hundred pages, but I read it in a couple of days on vacation, and I read slow as shit.
harry potter im listening to it now on audio book by stephnen fry
it makes me sad though when harry has to go into the forest alone and his parents tell him its okay to die, its like really moving for me so for some reason dunno why
harry potter is a really good story and people hate on it beaue its for kids but kids books dont talk about willingly wanting to die to save others and willingly wanting to lose the abllity to talk to your wife and friends and whatnot
also ahrry potter is about coping with loss like when harry loses his serius and he moarns about him for the entire book six. but he also has to come to tems that hes the chosen one and he has to give up his life in order to stop voldermort.
he was always percecuted and looked at when he didnt want any attention and whatnot and all he wanted to live life like a normal kid.
it really hit me when his god father died too it was depressing because at the endof book five he begs the ghosts to bring it back to life as a ghost but the ghost says he cant becuase his god father wouldnt want to come back as a ghost so harry has to understand that the last person who ever really loved him is gone becaue he fucked up with beign a hero
I know these don't quite follow the guidelines the OP put up, but I thought if you're looking for some great modern reads, I'd throw in my hat as far as science fiction and horror go.
Richard Morgan's Takeshi Kovacs novels are pretty amazing. I really like the fact that all of them read like different sub-genres of sci-fi. Altered Carbon feels like a detective story, whereas Broken Angels feels like an action novel. It keeps his work from feeling stale. I also really liked Thirteen and Market Forces, but his recent fantasy novel left a lot to be desired.
Patrick Rothfuss and Scott Lynch write fantasy novels, but they're fantastic reads and I'd highly recommend them as two of the best modern fantasy writers I've read. And if you're into adventure-horror novels with sprawling casts, Justin Cronin's The Passage is superb. It's the best horror novel I've read in a decade, and I hope he releases the sequel soon.
I really enjoyed Life of Pi by Yann Martel. It's about an Indian boy being stuck on a life boat with a tiger. Great fiction is out there it is just harder to find because it is buried under a shitload of James Patterson novels and ghost written autobiographies of reality TV stars.
?@awe_stuck said:
philip k dick books, lolita by nabokov, franny and zooey by jd salinger, game of thrones, richard dawkins books, and umm i dont know freakonomics.This is a fantastically entertaining read.
also, example1013, PLEASE link some of his old threads so I can relive them. They were all so terrible.
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