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@drx25: Now that you mention that, I would be all for it. That'd be a perfect ending to Hell No, and, hopefully, Kane's long (and amazing) career.

Interested to see where it will go, they have some good options, let's just hope they choose one that isn't completely awful.

Since my post exploded, let me say that Rabid was replying to my suggestion of Bryan/Kane at Mania for the Tag Titles.

Also, while she is younger than the supposed minimum age of on the road talent, it would be pretty logical to debut Paige in the UK (when they tour there right after Mania).

@rabid619: NXT was my favourite thing ever. It still kinda is, but in a very different way

Bret Hart is back on the warpath and this time, he's going after Hulk Hogan, Eric Bischoff and TNA.

"I've got no faith in either one of them. If anything, they're [TNA] going to lose a lot of ground. They're spending a fortune on a guy who's worthless. And Bischoff's as worthless as Hogan, the two of them have zero to offer the business. The only thing Hulk Hogan ever knew was how to make Hulk Hogan. He couldn't tell you how to make AJ Styles or Samoa Joe. What's Hulk Hogan going to tell Samoa Joe? He doesn't know anything to even tell him, he's got zero to offer."

In some completely unrelated news, if you're wondering how ROH followed up their SCUM fest (gross) from last night's iPPV, they recorded 4 episodes of TV today and here's what happened.

I think it is fair, as the only time the WWF does a build like this for a new wrestler is when it's, as I said, A Big Deal. At this point a three month build of vignettes leads to guys like Razor, Goldust, and Muhammad Hassan. I don't think I should ignore the format they're using because the WWF doesn't know what the hell they're doing one week from the next.

If the WWF only did a couple weeks of promotion saying "Fandangoo is arriving [insert date]" and then he showed up and gave that... promo... I don't think I would've minded nearly as much. The problem I have is that all of that time was wasted on a guy who isn't even being given something to do when he does show up. Add to that we're in WrestleMania season where every segment counts in order to build to something big at the big show, and we've got Fandangoo jerking off on Matt Striker for his debut. It's so dumb it's infuriating. Believe me, I'd love it if Fandangoo wound up being good, but as it stands right now I don't see it happening. He has no direction and no reason for being there. The wait and see approach only works when expectations are properly managed. If the WWF wasn't serious about pushing this guy they shouldn't have given him so many promos over the last three months.

I see your point, but stuff like Beaver Cleavage shows that the company was serious about it, at least. The Fandangoo stuff is just pointless and irritating.

@demoskinos:

@dazzhardy said:

@demoskinos:

funny anecdote; Brazzers totally shot a porno about a wrestler who missed her match and then got gangbanged in the ring.

And the lighting is totally the same, which is why I brought it up.

I finally got around to watching that video from the last Art of Wrestling paaadcast. I can only imagine how long it took for Colt to make it. Grrr Grrr.

"At this point?" Two of those were from the 90s.

At this point, WWE's three month build of vignettes leads to fucking Tensai, who's now been reduced to dancing with Brodus Clay.

"This video is not available."

Buuut, you make another good point: The build for Brodus Clay's debut went on for months and months, delayed many times, and he showed up as a dancing dinosaur. That's what the WWE do at this point.

Expecting everyone to show up and berate The Rock is ridiculous; There's only one Y2J.

So the name for the June PPV is Payback.

@oldirtybearon: Razor Ramon - 1992

Goldust - 1995

Muhammad Hassan - 2004

When the WWF became the WWE - 2002

You seem to be judging current events by things like happened more than a decade ago. Debut promos are not what they used to be anymore, and while I agree that they absolutely should be the way they used to it, they are not. They have changed significantly over the years, and are much more of a wildcard than they were at that time, though they were never, ever, ever a way to measure a wrestlers potential success.

What was in the June slot before?

No Way Out, which seems to have been scraped.

Better than the former June PPV of Fatal 4-Way

Oh, boo. I liked the name No Way Out. Payback is an awful PPV name.

Yeah old NXT was super fun. The new one is almost really good, but it's missing that charm of Redemption.

It's funny now, though, I've started to enjoy modern NXT more than I enjoy Raw. I find myself more disappointed than not with Raw, I honestly think I take it a bit too seriously, but with NXT I can kind of just sit back and relax. I have the people I like on there, but it doesn't bother me much if they win or lose.

@rabid619: @gunslingerpanda: @gorillamopena: I felt like calling it the WWF and you knew exactly what I was talking about. If I want to call it the WWF I'll call it the WWF. Rolls off the tongue a hell of a lot better than WWE.

And so far the only argument I've seen here is to adjust my expectations because "the WWF sucks now so we can't expect them to do stuff that's of a higher standard." Which is, for the record, complete bullshit.

the current list of confirmed "legends" leaves me with 5% hope that this old school raw will be any good. im sick of all but 1 of them

Looks Great!

Those legends have been "back" like once every two months for the last year. They work behind the scenes for the company, don't they? They do the same thing with JR, too. "Good Ole JR is BACK!" Yeah! Haven't seen him since February!

I'll take a guess and say Foley and Road Dogg will be among the legends who are back, and back, and back.

anyone they could actually get from that era (the best era) of WWF television is either dead or on terrible terms with Vince. I don't think Diesel is interested in being on TV, Shawn Michaels has no reason to be there, 123 Kid is probably in rehab with Sunny, nobody but me remembers the Smoking Guns or the Bodydonnas (granted half of them are dead) and Razor Ramon isn't going to be showing up to anything without a six pack of tall boy Coors. Goldust might show, though.

Rey Mysterio ‏@reymysterio

Good morning!About to C the man, Doc. James Andrews... Things haven't been good since I stepped back in the ring, possibly Acl tear again!

Only thing I can do now is,leave it in GODS hands!

I think it is time to retire Rey.

That is the most generic, boring name for a PPV.

@rabid619: NXT Redemption is the best thing WWE have ever produced. Not kidding.

I was looking over what the old June PPV names were and after they turned Great American Bash into just Bash. It was Fatal 4 Way (way to give it your all guys), Capital Punishment (cause DC) and No Way Out (which isn't usually the June one) last year. So basically anything is an improvement at this point.

@oldirtybearon: All that was said is that WWE is different now.

Linda McMahon is teasing running for Congress in 2 years...

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/268931-linda-mcmahon-running-for-congress-in-2014-update-on-qsnitchq-box-office-numbers

@papercut:

That GIF Symbolizes my thoughts exactly.

Hey guys, stop me if you heard this before but PWInsider is reporting that Undertaker is going to be on Raw tonight.

@milkman: That's nonsense, there's no way Taker would show up tonight.

@drx25: Man, they're not being shy about that at all.

better?

@drx25: i kinda think there messing with us at this stage

This social media Taker is kinda freaking me out.

Undertaker to promote himself going into Wrestlemania with his self made web series: T! True Death Valley Story.

I'm assuming you got the "I have risen." text too. It freaked me the fuck out!

Man, I'm gonna have to miss RAW because I have to be at the hospital tomorrow morning for a check up, I bet it'll be great >_<

I'm now waiting for The Undertaker Youtube Video, Tweet and Tout.

MONDAY NIGHT CHAT

TONIGHT...we're kickin' it old school (sorry). Here's some things guaranteed to happen: Road Dogg will point at his dick, Mae Young will do something that old ladies aren't suppose to do, Ron Simmons will say "Damn" and Undertaker will tell Punk that he's going to #RESTINPEACE. Besides that, all bets are off!

Guys I can't wait for my match in KOTW this week!!!

I think everything will come up milhouse!

@papercut Two more years! (Of the PG era and Hulk Cena!)

Shield just did the Triple Powerbomb on Big Show.

Tonight's Raw:

Here are some picture of the Powerbomb (so you know I'm not making shit up):

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And this wasn't on Raw??