http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp8S8eJkMW8
That's cool and all, but SOPA's getting voted on next month, and E3 isn't until June. Won't this whole thing be over by then, one way or another?
These guys can totally pull out, and I support them doing that. I still plan to enjoy the shit out of E3.
Weren't all these companies just tangentially supporting it though?
Because they buy into some committee right? Like Sony the game division is vocally against it, but they're stuck in Sony's company or something...
I'd admire their efforts but I doubt anything useful while happen regarding E3. It makes too much money for gaming websites as well, with it being one of the most trafficked periods of the year, so they wouldn't risk not covering it.
Good luck to America though, because if that bill is successful I'm sure Australia is sure to follow.
It adds up fine if you mix it with the other thread about this exact same topic.This thread doesn't add up.
@Doctorchimp said:
Weren't all these companies just tangentially supporting it though?
Because they buy into some committee right? Like Sony the game division is vocally against it, but they're stuck in Sony's company or something...
The ESA are the "committee" that support SOPA and PIPA which a lot of major developers are a member of. The ESA also run E3. Boycotting E3 is directly boycotting the ESA, not just the companies who are associated with the ESA.
As for why they're talking about boycotting E3 when this should be over with by then, I think people are assuming that this is going to be drawn out and end up lasting far longer. Ultimately it seems that all this vocal position to the bills is going to cause some delays and revisions to the bill, but they're ultimately still going to try and push them (or bills similar to them) through.
@MattyFTM said:
As for why they're talking about boycotting E3 when this should be over with by then, I think people are assuming that this is going to be drawn out and end up lasting far longer. Ultimately it seems that all this vocal position to the bills is going to cause some delays and revisions to the bill, but they're ultimately still going to try and push them (or bills similar to them) through.
I'm guessing that it could potentially be a viable option if any such bill passes? I don't know. Honestly, I've never really liked the whole counter-movement-grassroots-thing that happens every time something threatens the way things are. I'm not saying they're wrong, but I'm saying they have a whiff of we're-so-much-better-than-you-for-knowing-about it. They're the hipster rebels who are going to saving us clueless drones.
@dudeglove said:
@Buscemi said:
@Zero_ said:
@Buscemi said:
I always did hate that guy from ScrewAttack.
What!? But his dreamy voice!
I know, it's perfect. Maybe a little too perfect?
I gave up on that site a long time ago. Stuttering Craig used to be a radio announcer waaaaay back in the day, so that's why he's got such silky tones.
That explains a lot. I don't know what it is, though. I don't like his cap. If you're going to wear a cap, at least have the decency to be a truck driver.
@Masha2932 said:
....because if that bill is successful I'm sure Australia is sure to follow.
If it succeeds in America the whole world is sure to follow. The world hangs onto America's nutsack and if America's nutsack gets cold and its scrotum skin contracts then ALL THE WORLD MUST FOLLOW SUIT!
These criticisms of the people in the video are ignoring the issue posed in the video.
If the ESA supports SOPA, and you recognize the threat of SOPA, you should not support ESA. If the ESA makes revenue from E3, and you don't support the ESA, you shouldn't attend E3. Is internet freedom not worth the money one website can gain by covering E3? I think internet freedom is important enough, and I think the staff at GB should seriously consider not going/covering E3.
i kinda like screw attack.... sometimes.... they have some opinions on games i like/hate that are INSANE but whatever
on topic: i think its just a way for them to try to show the ESA(which is viewed as the head of the gaming industry by old people who have money and don't understand games) that the gaming industry does not support them. i don't think the idea is perfect, but some people in this thread are clearly just saying "fuck screwattack and the idea is shit because they came up with it" but whatever. i think this idea needs to go back to the drawing board for a bit.... seems kind of silly right now.
@SirPinkleton: But isn't that a very simple view. Essentially you are saying that if they do not completely agree with you, then you will not support them.
The ESA supplied 30 scholarships for aspiring game developers, raised over $900,000 for game development around educational games, and helped defend video game merits to the Supreme court. All of this occurred in the last 6 months. This organization is not evil,
It seems like a very simple response to boycott, instead of engage in a mature dialog.
This issue, like all other issues, is not binary decision. The idea of protecting the rights of content creators is important, but the manor in which SOPA goes about it is wrong. With revision, technical input and oversight these bills could be turned into something that could work.
@AxleFGK: Is it true that this does not represent the gaming industry? The ESA is a professional organization, that represents publishers and developers. For all we know, they had a private meeting for corporate members to determine their stance. Sony, EA and Microsoft have publicly came out in support of this effort, but I can imagine that a number of companies privately support SOPA for what it can do to protect their properties.
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