POLL - Legalization of marijuana? Opinions?

" @Kefkaesque said:

" Of course it should be legal. Alchohol, Tobacco, hell even food from McDonalds is easily worse for your body than marijuana.  It's only "addictive" in the same way World of Warcraft is addictive. Some people are just too lazy to stop doing it. I used to smoke regularly but then I just kind of got bored with it and never turned back, and I know many people who have basically done the same. This kind of thing doesn't happen with an addictive substances.   But even if it WERE addictive, it should be the person's choice whether or not they want to take that risk. "

i wish the government saw it your way. i dont know why they would be scared of making money. "

" @Ryax said:

" @Kefkaesque said:

" Of course it should be legal. Alchohol, Tobacco, hell even food from McDonalds is easily worse for your body than marijuana.  It's only "addictive" in the same way World of Warcraft is addictive. Some people are just too lazy to stop doing it. I used to smoke regularly but then I just kind of got bored with it and never turned back, and I know many people who have basically done the same. This kind of thing doesn't happen with an addictive substances.   But even if it WERE addictive, it should be the person's choice whether or not they want to take that risk. "

i wish the government saw it your way. i dont know why they would be scared of making money. "

The government knows it's not bad for people.  They don't give a shit even if it was extremely bad for you.  The government knows exactly what's out there, but they want people to use certain things.     There's a big thing going on, where people are debating who is really telling the truth.   The government releases "facts", which are later debunked by universities.  "

Illegal.

Legal, I have not actual interest in smoking it myself I just think it's a waste of tax payers money trying to enforce illegal marijuana.

any one who has smoked it can argue any of the governments "facts".  "

" Legal, I have not actual interest in smoking it myself I just think it's a waste of tax payers money trying to enforce illegal marijuana. "

" @Ryax said:

any one who has smoked it can argue any of the governments "facts".  "

They say it can cause cancer, yet there hasn't been a single case of it causing cancer.    Funny thing is, you can't kill yourself smoking marijuana.   They've tried to kill animals, and they haven't succeeded yet.   They say it kills braincells, but that's because they did test studies of putting gas masks on monkeys in lab, where they lost braincells due to the lack of oxygen.  They pumped them full of smoke nonstop for roughly 15 minutes worth.   Which resulted in cell loss, but it's twisted around these days, so yes technically it did make monkeys lose brain cells, only because they were suffocating them. "

" @Ryax said:

any one who has smoked it can argue any of the governments "facts".  "

They say it can cause cancer, yet there hasn't been a single case of it causing cancer.    Funny thing is, you can't kill yourself smoking marijuana.   They've tried to kill animals, and they haven't succeeded yet.   They say it kills braincells, but that's because they did test studies of putting gas masks on monkeys in lab, where they lost braincells due to the lack of oxygen.  They pumped them full of smoke nonstop for roughly 15 minutes worth.   Which resulted in cell loss, but it's twisted around these days, so yes technically it did make monkeys lose brain cells, only because they were suffocating them. "

I don't smoke, human lungs weren't meant to inhale smoke of any kind; but it should be legal if cigarettes are legal to smoke. It'll hurt organized crime like Mexican drug cartels and even terrorists like the Taliban who rely on the opium trade (local farmers grow it and Taliban take a fee).
 
And then we can pardon the ones in prison for possession (overflowing our prisons) and focus efforts on rapists and killers (although driving while high should carry the same sentence as drunk driving).

" I don't smoke, human lungs weren't meant to inhale smoke of any kind; but it should be legal if cigarettes are legal to smoke. It'll hurt organized crime like Mexican drug cartels and even terrorists like the Taliban who rely on the opium trade (local farmers grow it and Taliban take a fee).  And then we can pardon the ones in prison for possession (overflowing our prisons) and focus efforts on rapists and killers (although driving while high should carry the same sentence as drunk driving). "

Marijuana users are not criminals. Stop backing up our courts with marijuana cases. 

Legalize it.

" @Bionicicide said:

" I don't smoke, human lungs weren't meant to inhale smoke of any kind; but it should be legal if cigarettes are legal to smoke. It'll hurt organized crime like Mexican drug cartels and even terrorists like the Taliban who rely on the opium trade (local farmers grow it and Taliban take a fee).  And then we can pardon the ones in prison for possession (overflowing our prisons) and focus efforts on rapists and killers (although driving while high should carry the same sentence as drunk driving). "

so legalizing marijuana is going to hurt the opium market? and its going to stop the inflow of cocaine? i never knew that "

" @Ryax said:

" @Bionicicide said:

" I don't smoke, human lungs weren't meant to inhale smoke of any kind; but it should be legal if cigarettes are legal to smoke. It'll hurt organized crime like Mexican drug cartels and even terrorists like the Taliban who rely on the opium trade (local farmers grow it and Taliban take a fee).  And then we can pardon the ones in prison for possession (overflowing our prisons) and focus efforts on rapists and killers (although driving while high should carry the same sentence as drunk driving). "

so legalizing marijuana is going to hurt the opium market? and its going to stop the inflow of cocaine? i never knew that "

"Hurt" doesn't mean "stop". "

I smoke weed all day every day.

" @Ryax: If anything it might dissuade people from buying opium in favor of marijuana.  Though I cant think of a single time I've had to choose between the two. "

" @Bionicicide said:

" @Ryax said:

" @Bionicicide said:

" I don't smoke, human lungs weren't meant to inhale smoke of any kind; but it should be legal if cigarettes are legal to smoke. It'll hurt organized crime like Mexican drug cartels and even terrorists like the Taliban who rely on the opium trade (local farmers grow it and Taliban take a fee).  And then we can pardon the ones in prison for possession (overflowing our prisons) and focus efforts on rapists and killers (although driving while high should carry the same sentence as drunk driving). "

so legalizing marijuana is going to hurt the opium market? and its going to stop the inflow of cocaine? i never knew that "

"Hurt" doesn't mean "stop". "

either way, legalizing marijuana isnt going to hurt the opium industry and its not going to hurt the cartel.  "

I thought it should  @Atlas:  
 
Here's the thing... Whether marijuana is illegal or not, people are going to smoke it (as I am, this very moment). So society is going to have to deal with any health side effects either way. 
 
I personally, as a pot smoker, want it legalized and taxed. Considering legal marijuana would be far cheaper, due to abundance, I wouldn't mind paying that tax. 
 
Once again, if keeping it illegal meant nobody smoked it, and it didn't lead crime, then I'd probably reevaluate. But literally MILLIONS of people are smoking right this second. Making it legal is the ONLY responsible option.  
 
Of course, how lucky are we to have an irresponsible government?

" @MOLE: So if I have gotten this right, you are basing your facts of a documentary? Well, I have not seen this documentary, but keep in mind the documentary is made by people like you and me and the directors will always take a subjective stand when making it. In other words, the directors look at the case from a certain perspective not because they choose to, but because their human. This means, nothing made by man can ever be trusted fully. They angle the documentary to put the government in a bad spot and to make them hated. But I'm not saying the government is always right, mind you.  But seriously, the whole fucking world, every country and every government except ONE (that I know of) does NOT approve of marijuana. If scientists had proven there where no danger to the drug I bet you the governments would hold back so hard on the legalization marijuana. You WILL end up in prison if the police ever catch you with a lot of marijuana.  And what does this all tell you? IT IS STUPID SMOKING MARIJUANA! Cause these are all facts and I'm guessing you already know that. "

" I thought it should  @Atlas:   Here's the thing... Whether marijuana is illegal or not, people are going to smoke it (as I am, this very moment). So society is going to have to deal with any health side effects either way.  I personally, as a pot smoker, want it legalized and taxed. Considering legal marijuana would be far cheaper, due to abundance, I wouldn't mind paying that tax.  Once again, if keeping it illegal meant nobody smoked it, and it didn't lead crime, then I'd probably reevaluate. But literally MILLIONS of people are smoking right this second. Making it legal is the ONLY responsible option.   Of course, how lucky are we to have an irresponsible government? "

^^^ The problem with smoking daily is creating high tolerance, which sucks.  
 
I think if they make it into an industry, you'll see it just like how alcohol is made.  You have cheap shitty brands, and you have high expensive quality brands.  The same can be applied to marijuana.  If the people demand it, they'll more and likely do it.

" @SPACETURTLE said:

" @MOLE: So if I have gotten this right, you are basing your facts of a documentary? Well, I have not seen this documentary, but keep in mind the documentary is made by people like you and me and the directors will always take a subjective stand when making it. In other words, the directors look at the case from a certain perspective not because they choose to, but because their human. This means, nothing made by man can ever be trusted fully. They angle the documentary to put the government in a bad spot and to make them hated. But I'm not saying the government is always right, mind you.  But seriously, the whole fucking world, every country and every government except ONE (that I know of) does NOT approve of marijuana. If scientists had proven there where no danger to the drug I bet you the governments would hold back so hard on the legalization marijuana. You WILL end up in prison if the police ever catch you with a lot of marijuana.  And what does this all tell you? IT IS STUPID SMOKING MARIJUANA! Cause these are all facts and I'm guessing you already know that. "

Yes i'm aware that people can lie on both sides of the argument.    But just go back in history and see what the government showed to the people.  What they showed back then would be laughable on today's standards.   Their anti pot ads were so pathetic.  They showed people driving a car, running over a guy and not giving a shit.  They showed people acting as if they're a mental patient wanting to kill everyone around them.    It freaked people out, especially when it was considered official back then, just like what's considered official these days is the real deal, and anything opposing it must be false.       " 

Yeah, back then the government (the American government of course)  used these crazy ads to keep people away and keeping them from using it. And yes, I can understand you're doubting the government today because of that. But I think partly the government made them ads the way they did because of lack of knowledge maybe... I'm not saying they didn't know the effects back then, but now they know so much more. But that is really besides the point. Why do you think they even started ads against the drug? Why even bother to make it illegal? Why would they go through so much effort to make the drug as little accessible as possible?
 
Btw, I hope you're taking this as a friendly discussion? There are so many people here that get all fired up when exchanging opinions.

Indifferent,  if its legal then great but I don't care if it stays illegal.

It should be legal and moderated. Tobacco should be outright illegal.

" It should be legal and moderated. Tobacco should be outright illegal. "

" Eh... that depends. If its legal, that means you'll get it at the store and will probably have to start paying some kinda special tax on it.  While if its legal to own AND grow, then that's another thing.  But still, it all depends on how responsible people can be with it. If they make it available to 18+ or 21+ folks, then I dunno.  It all really depends. "

Smoke weed everyday... 420 bitches.

Legalize it, its no worse then smoking a ciggarette.

Yeah, back then the government (the American government of course)  used these crazy ads to keep people away and keeping them from using it. And yes, I can understand you're doubting the government today because of that. But I think partly the government made them ads the way they did because of lack of knowledge maybe... I'm not saying they didn't know the effects back then, but now they know so much more. But that is really besides the point. Why do you think they even started ads against the drug? Why even bother to make it illegal? Why would they go through so much effort to make the drug as little accessible as possible?
 
Btw, I hope you're taking this as a friendly discussion? There are so many people here that get all fired up when exchanging opinions.

Legalize it... 
Makes you happy... lazy and tired... Does not cause cancer... Non-addictive... 
Oh ya horrible...

" Legalize it... Makes you happy... lazy and tired... Does not cause cancer... Non-addictive... Oh ya horrible... "

" @Jesus said:

" Legalize it... Makes you happy... lazy and tired... Does not cause cancer... Non-addictive... Oh ya horrible... "

ITS THE WORST!!! the human cant take so much.... umm.... what? "

^^^ Same applies with alcohol.  Of course it would just create way more problems then it would actually solve.
 
People think if pot is legalized, somehow magically every single person is going to be be high all day every day.  Of course people abuse pot all the time, but if used in moderation there's no real threat.  You can still drive a car perfectly fine,  you can cook, make things, exercise.....anything.   The problem is that in that state of mind, you find things to be rather pointless and stupid to began with.   People think stoners don't know what's going on......then again it depends on the pot.
 
There are thousands of strains, each strain has a different effect than the other.   The stuff i'm smoking right now is more of a self aware strain, where I can hear every damn sound in my house.   It doesn't dull the senses, but in fact increases the senses to a new height......then again it's a matter of what strain you're smoking.   That's what it comes down to, which is why people need to learn which should be used in close moderation to what they're trying to accomplish.

Anyone with a at least a half working brain knows it should be legal.

i dont think your going to get a lot of people against pot on the internet you know.

" Legal.  It is a health issue, not a law one.    It should not be sold for profit though, that should stay illegal,but if you want to grow a plant for your own purposes, it is no business of the government.  I never ever use it and never will and I think it is entirely stupid to use it, but you can't legislate against stupidity and it is none of my business.  Plus, it is far less dangerous to society than tobacco and alcohol, and they are legal and massive profit earners. "

" @oldschool said:

" Legal.  It is a health issue, not a law one.    It should not be sold for profit though, that should stay illegal,but if you want to grow a plant for your own purposes, it is no business of the government.  I never ever use it and never will and I think it is entirely stupid to use it, but you can't legislate against stupidity and it is none of my business.  Plus, it is far less dangerous to society than tobacco and alcohol, and they are legal and massive profit earners. "

yes but now add one more things people can use to ruin their health and inhibitions, and the whole country will go under. I say keep it illigal to all.  "

" @krystians said:

" @oldschool said:

" Legal.  It is a health issue, not a law one.    It should not be sold for profit though, that should stay illegal,but if you want to grow a plant for your own purposes, it is no business of the government.  I never ever use it and never will and I think it is entirely stupid to use it, but you can't legislate against stupidity and it is none of my business.  Plus, it is far less dangerous to society than tobacco and alcohol, and they are legal and massive profit earners. "

yes but now add one more things people can use to ruin their health and inhibitions, and the whole country will go under. I say keep it illigal to all.  "

Maybe it will ruin your health and cut your inhibitions, but don't speak for everyone.  Prohibition doesn't work and what happened to personal liberty in the USA?  Is that only for guns? "

Make it legal... it doesn't do much harm. Regulate it like Alcohol.