Raging against the evils of capitalism. Oh, wait.

"LuckyWanderDude said:

" RATM dislike conformity and structure in realms of personal freedom. That is similar to anarchy. On the other hand, they don't oppose government intervention to fix economic problems. As such, it could be argued they're influence by anarcho-syndicalism which is essentially socialistic anarchy."

That would be closer to Libertarian Socialism if anything."

"Jayge said:

"LuckyWanderDude said:

" RATM dislike conformity and structure in realms of personal freedom. That is similar to anarchy. On the other hand, they don't oppose government intervention to fix economic problems. As such, it could be argued they're influence by anarcho-syndicalism which is essentially socialistic anarchy."

That would be closer to Libertarian Socialism if anything."

No, those nihilistic values are quintessentially anarchistic."

Still not as good as Van Halen's. David Lee Roth had a stage collapse on him once, and ever since then, every rider has been ridiculously long, and hidden amoung the text was the phrase A bowl of M&Ms need to be backstage, with all of the brown ones removed. If they found brown M&Ms, they refused to do the show. This showd them that they really read the contract, and everything was going to go down OK.

I am not insinuating that they want to further an agenda of anarchy. I am saying that it's dead wrong for someone to suggest that there are no similarities between revolution against the government and revolution against a capitalist economy, which is essentially the life's blood of a Democratic society/government. To rage against one, inextricably damages the other.

"BiggerBomb said:

"Jayge said:

"LuckyWanderDude said:

" RATM dislike conformity and structure in realms of personal freedom. That is similar to anarchy. On the other hand, they don't oppose government intervention to fix economic problems. As such, it could be argued they're influence by anarcho-syndicalism which is essentially socialistic anarchy."

That would be closer to Libertarian Socialism if anything."

No, those nihilistic values are quintessentially anarchistic."

nihilistic =/= anarchy. Very different views of the world."

Remember to play nice, children, or I'll get MB to spank you.

this thread is a perfect example of how jayge got 7000 posts.....

"Azteris said:

"BiggerBomb said:

"Jayge said:

"LuckyWanderDude said:

" RATM dislike conformity and structure in realms of personal freedom. That is similar to anarchy. On the other hand, they don't oppose government intervention to fix economic problems. As such, it could be argued they're influence by anarcho-syndicalism which is essentially socialistic anarchy."

That would be closer to Libertarian Socialism if anything."

No, those nihilistic values are quintessentially anarchistic."

nihilistic =/= anarchy. Very different views of the world."

Not all nihilists are anarchists, but all anarchists are nihilists."

"this thread is a perfect example of how jayge got 7000 posts....."

"*sigh* There's not much debating to do when your just flat out wrong."

"Azteris said:

"*sigh* There's not much debating to do when your just flat out wrong."

If nihilism is the "total rejection of established laws and institutions" and anarchy is a "state of society without government or laws," how are they unrelated?"

"BiggerBomb said:

"Azteris said:

"*sigh* There's not much debating to do when your just flat out wrong."

If nihilism is the "total rejection of established laws and institutions" and anarchy is a "state of society without government or laws," how are they unrelated?"

If that's what nihilism actually was, you'd be sooo right."

"Azteris said:

"BiggerBomb said:

"Azteris said:

"*sigh* There's not much debating to do when your just flat out wrong."

If nihilism is the "total rejection of established laws and institutions" and anarchy is a "state of society without government or laws," how are they unrelated?"

If that's what nihilism actually was, you'd be sooo right."

I'm using the dictionary definition. If I am incorrect, I'd like to know why."

"BiggerBomb said:

"Azteris said:

"BiggerBomb said:

"Azteris said:

"*sigh* There's not much debating to do when your just flat out wrong."

If nihilism is the "total rejection of established laws and institutions" and anarchy is a "state of society without government or laws," how are they unrelated?"

If that's what nihilism actually was, you'd be sooo right."

I'm using the dictionary definition. If I am incorrect, I'd like to know why."

I was using the philosophical definition. Which is what I assumed everyone used, my bad. I didn't know there were eight definitions."

The philosophical definition of nihilism should be primarily the argument that existence is without purpose or meaning.

"Azteris said:

"BiggerBomb said:

"Azteris said:

"BiggerBomb said:

"Azteris said:

"*sigh* There's not much debating to do when your just flat out wrong."

If nihilism is the "total rejection of established laws and institutions" and anarchy is a "state of society without government or laws," how are they unrelated?"

If that's what nihilism actually was, you'd be sooo right."

I'm using the dictionary definition. If I am incorrect, I'd like to know why."

I was using the philosophical definition. Which is what I assumed everyone used, my bad. I didn't know there were eight definitions."

The dictionary definition of nihilism is the "total rejection of established laws and institutions." Why is this incorrect? I'm asking you honestly, and your sarcasm is (once again) not necessary."

"The dictionary definition of nihilism should be primarily the argument that existence is without purpose or meaning."

There you go!

"BoG said:

"The dictionary definition of nihilism should be primarily the argument that existence is without purpose or meaning."

"an extreme form of skepticism: the denial of all real existence or the possibility of an objective basis for truth."Like that?"

"BiggerBomb said:

"BoG said:

"The dictionary definition of nihilism should be primarily the argument that existence is without purpose or meaning."

"an extreme form of skepticism: the denial of all real existence or the possibility of an objective basis for truth."Like that?"

Yeah. That's the only use of nihilism I've ever heard. "

Let's not get too concerned with semantics folks. If someone makes a semantic error, correct them without being (too) critical, and move on.

I see nothing wrong with this, but then again I'm not familiar with the band or their lyrics...*shrug*.

"Let's not get too concerned with semantics folks. If someone makes a semantic error, correct them without being (too) critical, and move on."

"Azteris said:

"BiggerBomb said:

"BoG said:

"The dictionary definition of nihilism should be primarily the argument that existence is without purpose or meaning."

"an extreme form of skepticism: the denial of all real existence or the possibility of an objective basis for truth."Like that?"

Yeah. That's the only use of nihilism I've ever heard. "

Strange that the dictionary would use a definition that's applicable for anarchy, if the two are not synonymous. *Eh-em*Last time I use dictionary.com."