many people argue that video games cause people to become violent after a while. what i dont understand is why the same amount of blame isnt put on tv and movies. of course i do not beleive that any of these things cause much violence. im sure that there are some people out there who are easily impressionable, but thats there own problem. i started thinking of this when my substitute history teacher said that video games were corrupting american youth and that they were the cause behinds colombine and the virginia tech shooting. i am pretty sure no one on giantbomb hates video games but im wondering your oppinion. does violence in video games affect people
violence in video games
" i started thinking of this when my substitute history teacher said that video games were corrupting american youth and that they were the cause behinds colombine and the virginia tech shooting. "If a teacher made such a bold, sweeping generalisation like that at my school they would have been sacked.
Then again, who gives a shit about subs?
I think the argument goes that in games you participate in the violence, while in tv/movies you merely watch it. I don't subscribe to this bullshit, I find violence I'm not in control of more disturbing than violence I have control over."what i dont understand is why the same amount of blame isnt put on tv and movies."
Edit: if your substitute history teacher was a science or maths teacher he'd know the difference between correlation and causation.
" @kaaaaaaahn said:" i started thinking of this when my substitute history teacher said that video games were corrupting american youth and that they were the cause behinds colombine and the virginia tech shooting. "If a teacher made such a bold, sweeping generalisation like that at my school they would have been sacked. Then again, who gives a shit about subs? "
Thats what I was thinking, but back to the point, if anyone I know goes off on one about how violence in video games is destroying our youth i just burst out with "DO YOU APPROVE OF THE HUNT BAN?".
This non sequiter tends to throw them off kilter and they just stop, if they say "no" then I come out with "So you don't approve of simulated, removed viloence that gamers would never dream of actually enacting, but you're fine with the brutal hunt and murder of a sentient being as a sport, on the grounds that "they are pests, and if people get pleasure from killing them, then so be it"?
If they say "yes" then i just write them off as a hippy and move on.
Anything can influence a mind if that mind is already on track to kill. But blaming the same thing over and over is just unimaginative and an attempt to at playing it safe because it's been accepted before. I'm pretty certain brutal murders took place before video games, far more than they do now. But people blame what they don't understand, which is why the people who blame video games are rarely gamers, the fear of pacman is a frightening path to stray from...
" many people argue that video games cause people to become violent after a while. what i dont understand is why the same amount of blame isnt put on tv and movies. of course i do not beleive that any of these things cause much violence. im sure that there are some people out there who are easily impressionable, but thats there own problem. i started thinking of this when my substitute history teacher said that video games were corrupting american youth and that they were the cause behinds colombine and the virginia tech shooting. i am pretty sure no one on giantbomb hates video games but im wondering your oppinion. does violence in video games affect people "Columbine and VT is not violence in video games Marilyn Manson, or anything in that nature,
wht it is is the way people are raising there children, either the parents are bad influence on their children, dont give a shit what their kids do, or teach their children to do things that are wrong
It doesn't cause somebody to be violent. It can influence it, but it alone doesn't cause it. I'm sure that if you look at those people's history, you'll see that they had more problems than just video games.
Now, I would agree that video games or TV can be a bad influence on a child's mind, which is why I wouldn't let some 8 year old play Grand Theft Auto. But it doesn't cause them to go out on a rampage.
Everything I would have liked to say and more." Anything can influence a mind if that mind is already on track to kill. But blaming the same thing over and over is just unimaginative and an attempt to at playing it safe because it's been accepted before. I'm pretty certain brutal murders took place before video games, far more than they do now. But people blame what they don't understand, which is why the people who blame video games are rarely gamers, the fear of pacman is a frightening path to stray from... "
It's just video games turn to be the scape goat for parents who cant bother parenting and uneducated people to blame problems on instead of trying to fix the real cause because that might actually be work. It was books when they where first invented, then movies once books became common place, then comics, then Rock and Roll, then Heavy Metal, then Dungeons and Dragons, then Rap music and now video games. As long as there are small minded people who like to blame the worlds problems on something instead of looking to themselves for the cause of the problem, there will always be an "*insert product/past time* is destroying the world/is the spawn of Satan" for them to blame things on.
" Anything can influence a mind if that mind is already on track to kill. But blaming the same thing over and over is just unimaginative and an attempt to at playing it safe because it's been accepted before. I'm pretty certain brutal murders took place before video games, far more than they do now. But people blame what they don't understand, which is why the people who blame video games are rarely gamers, the fear of pacman is a frightening path to stray from... "Rofl well said and besides, plenty of people died in the past (i.e. wild west) without the existence of video games so what's different in today's society?
I only mention it because it's relevant but I'm a tech reporter by trade, so there are a lot of times when those kinds of articles inevitably crop up: Someone went on a shooting or something, and said someone played videogames. The real wildfire probably started after Columbine, and after it anytime a shooting happens reporters will call on what are essentially anti-videogame experts to comment. I have some terrible luck with all this, haha, because not only am I a gamer but I was a creative writing student at the time when Virginia Tech happened, and believe you me they started looking at us differently (and recommending therapy for students who didn't write about flowers and rainbows).
@Erzs said:
" Anything can influence a mind if that mind is already on track to kill....this, and...
@crusader8463 said:
" It's just video games turn to be the scape goat for parents who cant bother parenting
Only stupid retards who let themselves get effected by them. Those people don't deserve to play video-games.
there is violence and sex in movies. so i dont understand why its a big deal when there in a cutscene in game
" @kaaaaaaahn said:Sometimes the murderers are just sociopathic, dude; they have no morals, no conscience, etc." many people argue that video games cause people to become violent after a while. what i dont understand is why the same amount of blame isnt put on tv and movies. of course i do not beleive that any of these things cause much violence. im sure that there are some people out there who are easily impressionable, but thats there own problem. i started thinking of this when my substitute history teacher said that video games were corrupting american youth and that they were the cause behinds colombine and the virginia tech shooting. i am pretty sure no one on giantbomb hates video games but im wondering your oppinion. does violence in video games affect people "Columbine and VT is not violence in video games Marilyn Manson, or anything in that nature, wht it is is the way people are raising there children, either the parents are bad influence on their children, dont give a shit what their kids do, or teach their children to do things that are wrong "
Don't always blame the parents; it's not always their faults.
" violence in video games/movies does not cause people to be violent, however it almost certainly desensitizes people to violence. "I don't disagree, but I've always argued that it's not a bad thing to be desensitized to violence -- why not be just a little bit prepared?
Video games are an interactive experience...and there's no other way to interpret a head explosion or running over innocent people with your car.
With that said, I don't think video games influence violence. I think miseducation of the difference between fantasy and reality does.
This comes from the guy who wrote the page for Extreme Violence...
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