My opinion is that it sucks.. but i have a reason, They cant think of fucking original names :\ such as "iceman" ALREADY TAKEN. Think Top Gun. Still cant remember?
Now we have the issue of "hulk hogan".. Last time i checked he wasnt big and green... and he certainly isnt super-human. So... still cant think of who the hulk is?
Just my opinion. Post yours :P (you like it or not? post why you like it, post why you dont. Friendly discussion.)
are we talking real wrestling or RAW? or maybe even like UFC? because if its UFC then yea it rocks but if its that fake crap then thats what it is... crap
Wrestling (WWE, TNA etc) has been stale for a while. Bit useless to complain about Hulks ring name since hes had it... for almost 30 years now (I think) and barely wrestles anymore, if at all.
...err i didnt know there was more than 1 style of wrestling... just pick one! lol"
Do your homework dude. Your reference to "Iceman" is clearly a reference to UFC Fighter "The Iceman" Chuck Liddell. UFC is a legit competition and thus really has nothing to do with professional wrestling.
As for the question, I like both UFC and WWE. I have been a fan of both for some time. They both offer different types of entertainment to me and I'm glad to be a fan.
Do your homework dude. Your reference to "Iceman" is clearly a reference to UFC Fighter "The Iceman" Chuck Liddell. UFC is a legit competition and thus really has nothing to do with professional wrestling.
As for the question, I like both UFC and WWE. I have been a fan of both for some time. They both offer different types of entertainment to me and I'm glad to be a fan."
I didn't say UFC isnt a legit competition, Its still wrestling. May not be the choreographed wrestling you see in WWE, but its still wrestling, and its still an un-original name.
Do your homework dude. Your reference to "Iceman" is clearly a reference to UFC Fighter "The Iceman" Chuck Liddell. UFC is a legit competition and thus really has nothing to do with professional wrestling.
As for the question, I like both UFC and WWE. I have been a fan of both for some time. They both offer different types of entertainment to me and I'm glad to be a fan."
I didn't say UFC isnt a legit competition, Its still wrestling. May not be the choreographed wrestling you see in WWE, but its still wrestling, and its still an un-original name."
I'm not gonna get too technical, but it's not wrestling, it's Mixed Martial Arts. And I don't see anyone outside of Val Kilmer using the name Iceman. In my opinion, Liddell is the true Iceman.
Wrestling is not as good as it used to be. The best era, WWF Attitude and WCW Monday Nights... Those were great, but they're long gone. Nowadays, the best it can do is being "okay." Well, that's just my opinion.
I watch wrestling all the time. It's a huge part of my life. Some people don't understand it and that's okay, but the stereotypes annoy me.
It's a soap opera for guys? If by that you mean, "it's a conflict-resolution driven entertainment program", then sure, it's a "soap opera". Most entertainment programs follow the exact same format. If you've ever watched Lost, 24, Survivor, the X-Files, Xena: Warrior Princess, Heroes, Prison Break, Happy Days, House, The Office, Mad About You, Lizzie McGuire, The Smurfs, or basically any television show ever, they all have one single thing in common: every episode ends in some fashion that is designed to entice you into watching the next episode, and eventually the entire series, and then buy the season sets on DVD. Of course WWE & TNA want you to watch their next show. It's how they make money.
It's fake? We know. No one cares. So is 99% of television, and 100% of movies. Now, wrestling fans dislike the word "fake", because "fixed" is more appropriate. The fights are fixed. The storylines are scripted. The action in the ring is performed carefully so as to pose as little risk to the combatants as possible. But it's not "fake"—a lot of these moves are dangerous stunts, and every professional wrestler has suffered some type of injury (often broken bones) as a result of a "fake" move gone wrong. There are even ones who've had their careers ended; their lives altered as a result of the risks they took in the wrestling ring.
Now, some moves (especially punches) are thrown "action-style", stopping just short of the intended target, while the target recoils as if hit. This is the same thing that action movie/TV show stars do. This is as "fake" as wrestling gets. The only difference is, wrestlers have to do it in front of a crowd, oftentimes on live TV, and occasionally a mistake is made causing it to look blatantly FAKE. Oops. But movie and TV stars get to do it on a closed set, and do retake after retake until they get it right. Wrestlers get one attempt, and even on a taped show mistakes usually go to air, since "editing out" the mistake is impossible without cutting to commercial. The typical TV viewer, upon seeing this, rolls his eyes and says "what a pathetic show, why does anybody watch it?" The wrestling fan understands how incredibly difficult it is to do what professional wrestlers do, and appreciate it even when a mistake is made. We appreciate it more when it's done right. Sometimes, a really big mistake elicits a chant of "You Fucked Up" from the crowd, but that's more of a playful tease than an outright insult. It's just part of the culture. It's like if you have a friend and he does something really stupid, like stubs his toe against the wall... you might say jokingly, "Hey, moron, watch where you're going!" Your friend knows you don't really think he's a moron, and you know he knows that, so you feel comfortable saying it, and he doesn't come beat the shit out of you for saying it. In fact, he might even acknowledge it by saying "Yeah, damn it, I'm such an idiot." And then you'll both laugh.
Point is, wrestling fans "get" all the things that non-wrestling fans constantly complain about. But we understand that professional wrestling is simply meant to be entertainment, and the style in which it's performed makes certain flaws excusable. It's more like going to see live theater than watching a scripted TV show.
Now that I've dealt with the primary criticisms, here are some of the reasons that we do watch, day after day, week after week:
The story never ends.
Have you ever had a favorite show cancelled, or disappointed when it finally ended, not because the ending was bad, but because you wanted it to continue so badly? Wrestling fans never need to deal with that. The show goes on, as it has been since the mid-80s, with no end in sight. "Characters" eventually leave, but new ones are always ready to take their place, and soon enough you have new favorite characters. Sometimes a character who left for years re-appears suddenly. Either way, the cast is constantly changing and there's always something new to watch.
No reruns.
While some TV watchers are waiting for new shows to start in fall, or are watching repeats of repeats of shows, wrestling fans get to see new programming each and every time they tune in to the primary programming (Raw, Smackdown, ECW and iMPACT!)
It's a variety show.
Sure, there's action, but there's also comedy. And thrills. And chills. And drama. And romance. Twists and turns and swerves and screwjobs and surprises and cliffhangers and mysteries and... and... and... look, if there's any television or movie genre out there, professional wrestling has done its own version of that genre, sometimes seriously, sometimes as a parody. You never really know what's going to happen next.
I don't really care who does and who doesn't watch it. But it bugs me when people feel that it sucks, and wrestling fans are just too stupid to understand it.
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"POST YOUR OPINION.
My opinion is that it sucks.. but i have a reason, They cant think of fucking original names :\
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Now we have the issue of "hulk hogan".. Last time i checked he wasnt big and green... and he certainly isnt super-human. So... still cant think of who the hulk is?
I skipped over "Iceman" since Met2609 already pointed out the error there.
As for Hogan, early on in his career, he used the ring name "The Incredible Hulk" Hogan. The parallel to the Marvel Comics character was intentional, and I'm pretty sure there was an arrangement with Marvel Comics over the use of the name. The idea was that viewers were more likely to buy into his character if he seemed like a superhero. Well, turns out they were—and they did. Hogan is still arguably the biggest name in the sport, even though he rarely competes in it anymore.
The majority of pro wrestlers, however, have their own unique ring names. I could list dozens of examples if I had to. Instead, I'll relate another story about another all-time great, Bret "Hitman" Hart. Bret borrowed the Hitman nickname from Thomas "Hit Man" Hearns, and admits to having done so. Bret went on record at one point stating that, after using it for a few years, he met Hearns, and Hearns gave him permission to keep using it. To my knowledge Hearns has never spoken publicly about it, but one would assume that he must not really mind if he never said anything. In both cases, the adopted names were more homage than rip-off, and I don't consider it fair to attack wrestling as a whole for it. SamChamploo said:
"I heard the actor Freddie Prince jr is one of the story writers for the WWE. "
You heard right. Freddie Prinze, Jr., is an avid WWE fan and was recently hired about a month ago.
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