A word of caution to people installing LoL (Pando Media Booster)

#1 Posted by Tordah (2479 posts) -

So I just started installing LoL again, and I noticed that it needed me to install something called the Pando Media Booster (PMB) in order to continue my installation. I was a bit skeptical, but since I really want to play the game again, I accepted it. I did some googling around and found this article:    

http://www.dasfox.com/blog/post/What-is-Pando-Media-Booster-(Pandoexe).aspx 
 
Taken from the article: 
   

"Is Pando.exe Bad?

Pando.exe isn’t inherently bad and is a valid way for a company offering free or discounted software or media to save some money in operating costs. “Isn’t inherently bad” is assuming that the company that installs this process on your machine has told you what it is and has given you the option of whether you want to install it or not. In my case, I had NO idea it was being installed and was just lucky to have found it the same day. (I’ve recently had to switch to Qwest “High Speed” internet and unfortunately have NO bandwidth to spare.)

And unsuspecting user that leaves Pando.exe running on their system is pretty much being forced to seed files to thousands of users ALL THE TIME (pando.exe has been reported by users to use up to 80+% of their internet connection’s upload bandwidth.) For some users this could lead to their ISP throttling their connection and/or actually charging them extra $$$ for using more bandwidth than they knew they were using." 
#2 Posted by valrog (3671 posts) -

Remove it as soon as it's done installing. Infiltrating Malware on our PCs now... Well played, Riot, well played.

#3 Posted by RaoulDo0k (86 posts) -

It's not necessary, and they didn't ask us if we want it installed or not? Oof. Too bad more people won't notice it's presence.

#4 Posted by JokerSmilez (1293 posts) -

The only way the LoL client will use Pando to seed patches, etc to/from other users is if you opt in. Otherwise, it will download from Riot directly. When you load it up and it checks for new versions, there is the "options" button. If you click it, you have the option of checking a box allowing peer to peer transferring. It is unchecked by default.

#5 Posted by Tordah (2479 posts) -
@JokerSmilez: How do you mean "download from Riot directly"? If you choose to deny the installation of Pando when you run the LoL installer you'll get an error message, and the installer quits. There's no way around it, as far as I know. "Installing Pando Media Booster" is the very first thing you'll see when you run the installer.
 
I assume you're talking about once you actually have the game installed, and only need to download patches and updates.
#6 Posted by GlenTennis (3145 posts) -

This just in: Riot sucks. One of the reasons I stopped playing this game in the first place was how incompetent Riot seemed. How's that new map they are "hard at work on."

#7 Posted by valrog (3671 posts) -
@Tordah:  He probably meant for patches. Anyway, while this software might not be completely bad (They could still got with better P2P programs, just saying), it is irresponsible that Riot did not inform us what is being installed. Especially something capable of opening ports and whatnot.
#8 Posted by Tordah (2479 posts) -
@valrog: Yeah, it is pretty disgusting. Though it doesn't seem like Riot is the first company to do this. Apparently t's been included in the installers for Lord of the Rings Online, Dungeons and Dragons Online, Maple Story, and possibly other online games too.
#9 Posted by Aus_azn (2224 posts) -

Vindictus also used it. Thanks for the heads up, deleting now.

#10 Posted by JokerSmilez (1293 posts) -
Man, people are paranoid...  

@GlenTennis said:

" This just in: Riot sucks. One of the reasons I stopped playing this game in the first place was how incompetent Riot seemed. How's that new map they are "hard at work on." "

Where's all the money you were going to pay for that new map? Oh, it's a free-to-play game but you want them to spend countless hours and resources on a feature you expect to get for free? STFU.
#11 Posted by GlenTennis (3145 posts) -
@JokerSmilez said:
" Man, people are paranoid...  

@GlenTennis said:

" This just in: Riot sucks. One of the reasons I stopped playing this game in the first place was how incompetent Riot seemed. How's that new map they are "hard at work on." "

Where's all the money you were going to pay for that new map? Oh, it's a free-to-play game but you want them to spend countless hours and resources on a feature you expect to get for free? STFU. "
It's buying skins for all those new characters they release every month. What's profatable? Releasing characters or releasing a map everyone will play. I probably put about the price of a full retail game into League of Legends, so I can say what I want about RIOT's business practices.
#12 Edited by Aus_azn (2224 posts) -
@GlenTennis:  Can't you basically amass points just by playing, in addition to the microtransactions? I haven't spent that much time on it yet.
#13 Posted by Jack268 (3387 posts) -
@Aus_azn said:
" @GlenTennis:  Can't you basically amass points just by playing, in addition to the microtransactions? I haven't spent that much time on it yet. "
Yes, yes you can. Unless you feel forced to buy the skins, there is no reason to spend real cash on the game. You just need the patience to get the in-game points, and getting to level 30 is going to earn you enough to buy most champions you're interested in anyway. 
 
The microtransactions are basically a scam and I'm surprised Riot hasn't been sued yet since Microsoft had legal problems for the exact same reason. You can read more here if you're interested.
#14 Posted by Aus_azn (2224 posts) -
@Jack268 said:
" @Aus_azn said:
" @GlenTennis:  Can't you basically amass points just by playing, in addition to the microtransactions? I haven't spent that much time on it yet. "
Yes, yes you can. Unless you feel forced to buy the skins, there is no reason to spend real cash on the game. You just need the patience to get the in-game points, and getting to level 30 is going to earn you enough to buy most champions you're interested in anyway. 
 
The microtransactions are basically a scam and I'm surprised Riot hasn't been sued yet since Microsoft had legal problems for the exact same reason. You can read more here if you're interested. "
Dealing out prime numbers?! How low can you go?
 
I guess the less-mathematically inclined would think "Oh, 839 ends in 9 so is divisible by 3 or something" or "51 was that funny number that wasn't prime when I took my primary school exams so 6451 mustn't be either". That's terribly crude.
#15 Edited by valrog (3671 posts) -
@Tordah:  I guess it's time to setup Wireshark or something. Now, I'm no network expert, but I'm pretty sure programs opening ports without me knowing and using them for whoknowswhat is bad.
 
@Aus_azn: Actually, the last digit does not determine if the number is divisible by 3.
#16 Posted by Aus_azn (2224 posts) -
@valrog said:
"@Aus_azn: Actually, the last digit does not determine if the number is divisible by 3. "
I know that. That's my point. Hence "the less-mathematically inclined"... I know the divisibility test is adding the digits together and seeing if that's divisible by 3.
#17 Posted by valrog (3671 posts) -
@Aus_azn:  Right. Sorry. It's really late here and I should probably get off the Internet already. G'night.

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