Mark of the Ninja PC port?

#1 Edited by Eldrien (19 posts) -
#2 Edited by adam1808 (1372 posts) -

It's Microsoft's game so it could be a month or it could be over a year like Iron Brigade. They didn't treat it too well with the friday release so I'd say sooner rather than later.

EDIT: Wasn't it an open secret that Trenched/Iron Brigade was in the registry months before release?

#3 Posted by Mnemoidian (955 posts) -

They've spoken about wanting to release it on PC, but that it was something they would look into post-launch.

Seems plausible?

#4 Posted by CaLe (3910 posts) -

From their forum.

#5 Posted by BBAlpert (1369 posts) -

That's a relief, as my 360 crapped out on me about halfway through the game.

#6 Posted by pekarn (86 posts) -

@BBAlpert: and now you're looking to ruin your PC aswell? :)

#7 Posted by JackSukeru (5903 posts) -

My anticipation is palpable.

#8 Posted by TobbRobb (4579 posts) -

CANT WAIT. I was so close to getting my 360 out of the wardrobe for this.

#9 Posted by zombie2011 (4968 posts) -

@adam1808 said:

It's Microsoft's game so it could be a month or it could be over a year like Iron Brigade. They didn't treat it too well with the friday release.

What does that even mean? MS has been releasing their exclusives and many other games on friday for a while now. This was an exclusive like the South Park game and Fez so they released it on friday like they have for a while now.

#10 Posted by adam1808 (1372 posts) -

@zombie2011 said:

@adam1808 said:

It's Microsoft's game so it could be a month or it could be over a year like Iron Brigade. They didn't treat it too well with the friday release.

What does that even mean? MS has been releasing their exclusives and many other games on friday for a while now. This was an exclusive like the South Park game and Fez so they released it on friday like they have for a while now.

Did you see the paltry promotion the game got? Listen to today's bombcast if you're not convinced. Fez and South Park weren't completely funded by MS money either, while MotN was and it gets a friday slot when Tuesday is the day when meaningful releases happen.

#11 Posted by zombie2011 (4968 posts) -

@adam1808 said:

@zombie2011 said:

@adam1808 said:

It's Microsoft's game so it could be a month or it could be over a year like Iron Brigade. They didn't treat it too well with the friday release.

What does that even mean? MS has been releasing their exclusives and many other games on friday for a while now. This was an exclusive like the South Park game and Fez so they released it on friday like they have for a while now.

Did you see the paltry promotion the game got? Listen to today's bombcast if you're not convinced. Fez and South Park weren't completely funded by MS money either, while MotN was and it gets a friday slot when Tuesday is the day when meaningful releases happen.

XBLA games come out on Wednesday and thats only because thats the day MS picked. Meaningful games come out on wednesday like..The Expandables 2, Deadliest Warrior? Joe Danger 2 comes out this friday does that mean that game isn't going to be good? If MS releases games on friday so they don't get buried with the rest of the XBLA junk, the game doesn't need as much promotion as most XBLA games because it's the only one they is released that day.

Also i saw ads on the dashboard for the game yesterday.

#12 Posted by MikkaQ (10268 posts) -

This is good news, I hate it when good games are XBLA exclusives cause Microsoft's retarded points scam drove me away from the service. You can claim that 800 points "represents" 10$ all you want but when you have to pay at least 15-20$ to get access to that amount of points you're just lying about the price of everything. I have to spend 20$ to get 1500 points to buy any "15$" XBLA game. Hate it.

#13 Edited by AssInAss (2541 posts) -

I'll double dip when it comes on PC.

#14 Edited by rolanthas (242 posts) -

Man, I waited a year for the eventual Iron Brigade PC version, and it came with Steam region lock thanks to GFWL ( which is effing supported in my country, but yeah whatevs ). So I'm pretty positive I won't be able to play this game either way.

But, yeah, we'll probably see a PC version, no worries.

#15 Posted by mrcraggle (1819 posts) -

I wouldn't be surprised if it comes to PC, their other games have been in the past but I guess that's just due to publishing.

#16 Posted by bwheeeler (420 posts) -

@MikkaQ: You buy points in 400-point increments now, at least in the US. It's been that way for a while.

#17 Posted by dr_mantas (1789 posts) -

Good, I'll make sure to play it then.

#18 Posted by crazyleaves (640 posts) -

I sure hope it does, when I heard it was published by MS I was disappointed. This is welcome news.

#19 Posted by MikkaQ (10268 posts) -

@bwheeeler said:

@MikkaQ: You buy points in 400-point increments now, at least in the US. It's been that way for a while.

Not in Canada. it's like 500 points for 7.50 or 1000 points for 14.50, it's ridiculous. If you buy cards you're still forced to buy 20$ worth of points at least.

#20 Posted by DJJoeJoe (1317 posts) -

@MikkaQ: Of course this is lame for someone that would only buy 1 game on the service, but most people tend to buy more than 1 game. After purchasing just enough points to allow me to buy this game I was left with 20 points on my account.

#21 Posted by MikkaQ (10268 posts) -

@DJJoeJoe said:

@MikkaQ: Of course this is lame for someone that would only buy 1 game on the service, but most people tend to buy more than 1 game. After purchasing just enough points to allow me to buy this game I was left with 20 points on my account.

In the end it kinda forces me to buy more things that I generally don't need to play though. It encourages more purchases in a pushy and annoying way and I'm just about done dealing with it after almost 7 years. PS3 and Steam have no problem charging the same amount, so I feel less hesitant when I shop around them.

#22 Posted by DJJoeJoe (1317 posts) -

@MikkaQ said:

@DJJoeJoe said:

@MikkaQ: Of course this is lame for someone that would only buy 1 game on the service, but most people tend to buy more than 1 game. After purchasing just enough points to allow me to buy this game I was left with 20 points on my account.

In the end it kinda forces me to buy more things that I generally don't need to play though. It encourages more purchases in a pushy and annoying way and I'm just about done dealing with it after almost 7 years. PS3 and Steam have no problem charging the same amount, so I feel less hesitant when I shop around them.

I have no issues not spending 'left over' points, there's nothing to spend them on any ways. Most things are pegged at high point amounts and if you're only buying the points you need you'll rarely ever have enough left over to buy another game, unless it's on steep sale or it's an indie game or something... even avatar items can be a few hundred points which is more than I'm usually left with. At most I find I'm left with maybe 200 msp for example. What games are being forced on you for these left over points?

#23 Posted by Krakn3Dfx (2484 posts) -

I don't really buy anything on XBL, but if this shows up on Steam for $15, I'm definitely in for it.

#24 Posted by yoshisaur (2634 posts) -

I'm glad I waited than. I prefer to play games on my PC since my Wife usually likes to watch TV on the...TV.

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#25 Posted by rolanthas (242 posts) -

hoooooly shit, it's coming to Steam in October 16 for 15$, WITHOUT GFWL!

#26 Posted by Humanity (8800 posts) -

@rolanthas said:

hoooooly shit, it's coming to Steam in October 16 for 15$, WITHOUT GFWL!

I dislike it when games come out without GFWL since it helps me consolidate my console and pc gaming under one neat umbrella.

#27 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -

@rolanthas said:

hoooooly shit, it's coming to Steam in October 16 for 15$, WITHOUT GFWL!

Link? Source? I can't find it on Steam.

#28 Edited by Abendlaender (2757 posts) -

@AhmadMetallic said:

@rolanthas said:

hoooooly shit, it's coming to Steam in October 16 for 15$, WITHOUT GFWL!

Link? Source? I can't find it on Steam.

Link&Source

#29 Posted by 2HeadedNinja (1539 posts) -

Thats good to hear ... im in once it is out on steam.

#30 Posted by Terramagi (1159 posts) -

@Humanity said:

@rolanthas said:

hoooooly shit, it's coming to Steam in October 16 for 15$, WITHOUT GFWL!

I dislike it when games come out without GFWL since it helps me consolidate my console and pc gaming under one neat umbrella.

Holy shit, I didn't think you people actually existed. And in the WILD no less.

#31 Edited by Abendlaender (2757 posts) -

@Humanity said:

@rolanthas said:

hoooooly shit, it's coming to Steam in October 16 for 15$, WITHOUT GFWL!

I dislike it when games come out without GFWL since it helps me consolidate my console and pc gaming under one neat umbrella.

Wow, I never knew Don Mattrick was a member here on Giantbomb!

I know that joke doesn't work that well cause Mattrick doesn't play games, he just spends the whole day playing with his hair, but he is the only person I know who is somehow associated with the MS Games division

#32 Posted by Humanity (8800 posts) -

@Abendlaender said:

@Humanity said:

@rolanthas said:

hoooooly shit, it's coming to Steam in October 16 for 15$, WITHOUT GFWL!

I dislike it when games come out without GFWL since it helps me consolidate my console and pc gaming under one neat umbrella.

Wow, I never knew Don Mattrick was a member here on Giantbomb!

I know that joke doesn't work that well cause Mattrick doesn't play games, he just spends the whole day playing with his hair, but he is the only person I know who is somehow associated with the MS Games division

Were known as the "non whiny people" collective.

#33 Posted by Abendlaender (2757 posts) -

@Humanity: @Humanity said:

@Abendlaender said:

@Humanity said:

@rolanthas said:

hoooooly shit, it's coming to Steam in October 16 for 15$, WITHOUT GFWL!

I dislike it when games come out without GFWL since it helps me consolidate my console and pc gaming under one neat umbrella.

Wow, I never knew Don Mattrick was a member here on Giantbomb!

I know that joke doesn't work that well cause Mattrick doesn't play games, he just spends the whole day playing with his hair, but he is the only person I know who is somehow associated with the MS Games division

We're known as the "non whiny people" collective.

Wait, we? You mean there are more?

#34 Posted by Humanity (8800 posts) -

@Abendlaender said:

@Humanity: @Humanity said:

@Abendlaender said:

@Humanity said:

@rolanthas said:

hoooooly shit, it's coming to Steam in October 16 for 15$, WITHOUT GFWL!

I dislike it when games come out without GFWL since it helps me consolidate my console and pc gaming under one neat umbrella.

Wow, I never knew Don Mattrick was a member here on Giantbomb!

I know that joke doesn't work that well cause Mattrick doesn't play games, he just spends the whole day playing with his hair, but he is the only person I know who is somehow associated with the MS Games division

We're known as the "non whiny people" collective.

Wait, we? You mean there are more?

Shocking I know, there are some people who don't froth at the mouth when faced with having to put in their mail and password once when launching a GFWL supported game. We are few and far in between, each day we grow weaker as tourette addled teens twitch and curse us to high heavens on various message boards but we try to stay strong.

God Bless everyone.

#35 Posted by Tennmuerti (7997 posts) -

@Abendlaender said:

@AhmadMetallic said:

@rolanthas said:

hoooooly shit, it's coming to Steam in October 16 for 15$, WITHOUT GFWL!

Link? Source? I can't find it on Steam.

Link&Source

Sweet.

#36 Posted by Snail (8578 posts) -

@DJJoeJoe said:

@MikkaQ said:

@DJJoeJoe said:

@MikkaQ: Of course this is lame for someone that would only buy 1 game on the service, but most people tend to buy more than 1 game. After purchasing just enough points to allow me to buy this game I was left with 20 points on my account.

In the end it kinda forces me to buy more things that I generally don't need to play though. It encourages more purchases in a pushy and annoying way and I'm just about done dealing with it after almost 7 years. PS3 and Steam have no problem charging the same amount, so I feel less hesitant when I shop around them.

I have no issues not spending 'left over' points, there's nothing to spend them on any ways. Most things are pegged at high point amounts and if you're only buying the points you need you'll rarely ever have enough left over to buy another game, unless it's on steep sale or it's an indie game or something... even avatar items can be a few hundred points which is more than I'm usually left with. At most I find I'm left with maybe 200 msp for example. What games are being forced on you for these left over points?

The whole points system still is unnecessary and more dishonest than the regular-ass paying options the Playstation Store and Steam services provide to you.

So he does have a POINT.

Okay, folks that was that, I'm done here.

#37 Edited by Snail (8578 posts) -

@Humanity said:

@Abendlaender said:

@Humanity:

We're known as the "non whiny people" collective.

Wait, we? You mean there are more?

Shocking I know, there are some people who don't froth at the mouth when faced with having to put in their mail and password once when launching a GFWL supported game. We are few and far in between, each day we grow weaker as tourette addled teens twitch and curse us to high heavens on various message boards but we try to stay strong.

God Bless everyone.

Yooouuuuuu fuck.

You dare?

Having to put in your e-mail and password? Do you think it fucking ends there? Do you think people get genuinely pissed at the integration of this service because of an extra log-in screen? I don't know. How the fuck. Your experience with this service was so inexplicably uncluttered, so miraculously graceful, so unbelievably idyllic, that you too would not spit out fits of rage at the very mention of this service. Here are some examples:

  • Logging in to GFWL in Batman Arkham City reduced the framerate down to about 2-5 frames per second, rendering the game unplayable. I had to either log in with the Windows Live Marketplace app before starting the game, and hope for the best, or deactivate DX11. If I didn't log in, it would be fine, but I couldn't save my progress.
  • Unlike Steam it clings itself to some games, forcing you to log in with this service to save your progress. Not only is it annoying to log in to two different services two play one game, there also is no "offline mode" in games that support GFWL. You have to be online to save your progress, or at least that's what I gather from my experience with the service.
  • It takes so fucking on to log in. After I've already logged in to Steam, which takes about 2 seconds to do, I don't want to have to log in to another service to play a game I want to. But this wouldn't be nearly as annoying if it didn't take the service nearly half a minute to log in each time.
  • I don't know how true this is, but it seems to be a well-known fact that GFWL is an unsafe platform for online games, and that it is easily exploitable.
  • It just fucking doesn't work well. I tried playing Age of Empires Online with a friend, and a connection couldn't be established. We tried several times, on different days, and the person I was trying to play the game with even changed his internet settings. This was the only service out of those I've used on my PC (Steam, Origin, Desura) that hasn't allowed me to play an online multiplayer game with someone I want to play that online multiplayer game with.

I'm glad I don't have more games than I do that incorporate that service. It is so bad they killed it and are replacing it with the "Xbox" platform on Windows 8. Let's see how that goes. Not necessarily cynical about the quality of that service at all. Though there is that thing Gabe Newell was really pissed about that I think may pertain to this.

If you like GFWL, I just have to assume you're really into your gamerscore.

#38 Posted by Humanity (8800 posts) -

@Snail: Never had an issue with it, have you tried updating your drivers?

#39 Posted by Roland_D11 (185 posts) -

@Snail: I have to say I am not fond of Gfwl, but I don't hate it at all. I just didn't have a bad experience with it yet. And I don't care about gamerscore ;-) .

About the 'offline mode': Of course you can play offline. I do it on some Gfwl games. Just create a new offline profile at the start of the game and you are done.

About the 'killing': They did not kill it for Windows 8, they renamed it and put a coat of paint on it. It is the very same service. The hate from Gabe Newell was about the Windows 8 App Store. Of course he does not like it, because it is a Steam competitor and it will be built into Windows 8. I am astounded that he is not outraged about the Mac App Store as well.

#40 Edited by Snail (8578 posts) -

@Roland_D11: I am certain that in Batman: AC each "Microsoft account" (which is what it is called now, since they killed the "Live" suffix, which is what I meant) has save files associated with it. If you log in with another "offline account", you'll be accessing different save files. That may be specific to this game, and perhaps some others.

But yeah, this upcoming revision seems like a redesign and an overhaul of the service, making it faster, less clunky, perhaps safer, etc.

Well the Mac App store doesn't really have nearly as much games, and they aren't even close to being competitively priced compared to what Steam offers. So I suppose that's why.

#41 Posted by Snail (8578 posts) -

@Humanity said:

@Snail: Never had an issue with it, have you tried updating your drivers?

What? What drivers? Are you talking about the internet connectivity issue? Yeah they're up to date.

#42 Posted by Abendlaender (2757 posts) -

@Humanity said:

@Snail: Never had an issue with it, have you tried updating your drivers?

You know, I was just making fun (GfWl is just an easy target) so I hope you were not too upset (although I could kinda understand it ;) )

However I had my fare share of problems with the service as well, Dark Souls f.e. crashes every time when I don't start the service before starting the game. Batman spontaneously decided that my profile was invalid so I had to create a new one and Shadow Planet refused to connect from time to time (I even lost my save once, but that might have been my fault). So at best GfWl is just a 10-20 seconds consuming nuisance but the service never worked just right for me. Steam is by all means not perfect but at least it works 98% of the time.

#43 Posted by Ghost_Cat (1383 posts) -

Looks like dreams do come true: October 16th, fifteen dollars. Source.

#44 Posted by Humanity (8800 posts) -

@Abendlaender: No biggie, I personally only had minor issues with it but it's nothing serious or game breaking. I'm well aware the service isn't perfect but since I am a big XBOX gamer I do like having my PC gaming contribute to all my 360 "Stats." It's not even a gamerscore thing as it is having one comprehensive profile. I've had friends who had awful problems with Steam but I know thats a vast minority as I myself also had no issues with Steam before while one of my best friends curses it out to high heavens because literally every game he buys through Steam has some issues.

#45 Posted by rolanthas (242 posts) -

@Humanity said:

@rolanthas said:

hoooooly shit, it's coming to Steam in October 16 for 15$, WITHOUT GFWL!

I dislike it when games come out without GFWL since it helps me consolidate my console and pc gaming under one neat umbrella.

GFWL would mean it'd be region locked, thus preventing me from buying / playing it.

So imma happy.

#46 Posted by Roland_D11 (185 posts) -

@Snail: Yes, the saves are specific to the account you log in with. But: If you don't care about gamerscore in the first place, want to play offline (no friendslist needed) why do you need to log in to regular your Xbox-Live account?

The Valve rage about the Windows app store is the other way around in my opinion. Valve is trying to push Steam to be the de-facto standard for PC games AND software. They already announced that they will sell software through Steam very, very soon. And I think it is safe to expect that they will try to push media stuff into it as well, Big Picture Mode is the first small step in this direction.

#47 Posted by SpartanHoplite (384 posts) -

i hope it'll come to pc, looks really neat game.

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