That ex cop guy shows up multiple times throughout the game in obscure places, what are the chances of that? Do you think rockstar is doing that same thing they did in RDR and that cop isn't actually real, and he's a figment of maxs

Imagination of how max wanted his life to turn out

I don't think he's a figment of his imagination but im sure he's suppose to symbolize the kind of life he could have had it max payne hadn't been max payne

Who?

Who?

@hbkdx12: Where is he beside the club bathroom? I thought that was a one-off encounter.

@hbkdx12: Where is he beside the club bathroom? I thought that was a one-off encounter.

@CL60: Does he just keep talking about how awesome his family is?

in north dakooooooooootaaaaaa

@CL60: Does he just keep talking about how awesome his family is?

in north dakooooooooootaaaaaa

@hbkdx12: Where is he beside the club bathroom? I thought that was a one-off encounter.

@CL60: Does he just keep talking about how awesome his family is?

in north dakooooooooootaaaaaa

i hope that guy made it out of there. out of all the messed up shit going on in that game, he was a delightful person to see.

Yep. The dude is not real -- all in Max's mind. At least that'd be awesome if our theory is true.

A retired cop with a family who doesn't feel the need to be a hero? Also, his daughter is in college, wouldn't Max's daughter be that age if she had survived?

It's been a long time since I played RDR. Who didn't actually exist? Are you talking about the guy that was implied to be Death/Satan?

@hbkdx12 said:

@Jason_Bourne: I'm not sure what the time line is on these games but his daughter died when she was 6 months old so if she were to be in college that would suggest these 3 games take place over a course of at least 18 years. Don't think it's been that long. but i could be wrong

she died in '98 i think? if the game takes place in 2012 then she wouldn't be in college

Oh cool, I found him in the club and the in the favela but had no idea he was in the airport.

You can also find the creepy dude that was in the brothel being held in a jail cell at the police station later on.

@CL60 said:

Imagination of how max wanted his life to turn out

Sounds about right

I don't think he's just a figment of his imagination, but he's definitely symbolizing the life Max could have.

On a side note, I absolutely love the fact that Max stops him from showing a photo of his kids, probably thinking along the lines of  "don't do that, because if you die, this is going to be awkward".

My phone decided it wanted to post before I was finished typing if anybody is wondering what happened there. I planned on typing more stuff.

I think he's real lol, just a coincidence really

Yeah, I liked the scenes with the cop. Good symbolism. Didn't even find the second and third moments on my first playthrough.

@Jason_Bourne said:

A retired cop with a family who doesn't feel the need to be a hero? Also, his daughter is in college, wouldn't Max's daughter be that age if she had survived?

Also, he and his wife operate a charitable organization in the slums.

An interesting foil for Max's character, to be sure.

Just found a creepy guy hiding under a bed right before you exit the favela brothel. Sadly, they don't give you a chance to kill him.

I met him twice, I never met him in the airport.

@Lebensbaum: Just wait.

@UberExplodey: Oh snap... must be another clue I missed in the third act.

@UberExplodey: Oh man, you better not be kidding... must be another clue I missed in the third act.

I think I can confirm that the ex-cop isn't real. After the third time you meet him in the airport you can reenter the stall he is hiding in and he isn't there.

@Jason_Bourne said:

A retired cop with a family who doesn't feel the need to be a hero? Also, his daughter is in college, wouldn't Max's daughter be that age if she had survived?

Also, he and his wife operate a charitable organization in the slums.

An interesting foil for Max's character, to be sure.

It really doesn't matter if he is real or not. The effect of the symbolism would be the same.

While it doesn't matter if he is real or not in terms of the symbolism it provides (besides being that, if not real, it illustrates how deep Max's desire for a different life may be), I did find something interesting about The Ex-Cop and his 'realness'. The final time in the game you meet him is in an airport's bathroom stall. You have a conversation about the ex-cop's daughter and how she is waiting in a plane (oddly, he seems unconcerned for her safety). After the conversation The Ex-Cop shuts the stall door and you can continue on your way. However, I accidentally turned around and ran into the stall door; It opens. Inside? No one. It's empty. Is this an oversight on Rockstar's part or a clever indication that The Ex-Cop is simply a figment of Max's deep subconscious desires?

@nixisia: Replying to a thread that is 1 year and 5 months old... Come on, son...

I read ex-cop but my brain immediately goes to Axe Cop.