There has been a lot of debate recently as to whether or not MW2 is a good game or not, and I'm going to be brutally honest with you guys right now; It's the best FPS ever made.

No, but seriously, it's actually really bad. No one likes this game. In fact, I'd even go as far to say that more people actively hate it than those who like it. I know I do, and let's face it, I'm awesome so I must be right. Now, I could go and list all the reasons why this game is terrible, so I will.
 

1) Shotguns.

2) Camping.

3) Noobtube.

Despite the fact that you die in two hits most of the time and you automatically spawn with everything you would ever need in a match, I tend to dislike multiplayer when they put the power weapons at certain spots on the match. New players will have no clue where they are while "veteran" players will automatically hustle to the spot. You shouldn't need to automatically sprint to a certain part of the map just to get a weapon that's actually worth something and is capable of killing enemies.

" Despite the fact that you die in two hits most of the time and you automatically spawn with everything you would ever need in a match, I tend to dislike multiplayer when they put the power weapons at certain spots on the match. New players will have no clue where they are while "veteran" players will automatically hustle to the spot. You shouldn't need to automatically sprint to a certain part of the map just to get a weapon that's actually worth something and is capable of killing enemies. "

" @natetodamax said:

" Despite the fact that you die in two hits most of the time and you automatically spawn with everything you would ever need in a match, I tend to dislike multiplayer when they put the power weapons at certain spots on the match. New players will have no clue where they are while "veteran" players will automatically hustle to the spot. You shouldn't need to automatically sprint to a certain part of the map just to get a weapon that's actually worth something and is capable of killing enemies. "

Also c'mon, only the power weapons are worth a damn? You're wrong on that end... "

" Despite the fact that you die in two hits most of the time and you automatically spawn with everything you would ever need in a match, I tend to dislike multiplayer when they put the power weapons at certain spots on the match. New players will have no clue where they are while "veteran" players will automatically hustle to the spot. You shouldn't need to automatically sprint to a certain part of the map just to get a weapon that's actually worth something and is capable of killing enemies. "

It's not terrible, but it's by far the worst cod multiplayer yet. It goes 4 then 5 then mw2. 

In order to get rid of a shotgunner. Run around them and shoot. 
 
To get rid of a camper, throw grenades or shoot faster. 
 
To get rid of noob tubes choose a runner class and run for your goddamn life and knife.

And lets be honest guys, as good as the Shotgun and Lancer are or aren't, there's no way they compare to the Boomshot. It's all about controlling the power weapons. And stop talking about Gears, I'm trying to rip on MW2 D:<

You also forgot to mention the Models in there hey day and Knifers but yes I totally agree with you this game is broken and I don't have fun playing it at all. 

" In order to get rid of a shotgunner. Run around them and shoot.  To get rid of a camper, throw grenades or shoot faster.  To get rid of noob tubes choose a runner class and run for your goddamn life and knife. "

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" Aren't comments like these like illegal now? "

" @jadeskye said:

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Aren't comments like these like illegal now? "

If you are going to complain about op weapons you should complain about the ump. easily the easiest to use/best weapon in the game. I have a good rush gamestyle and i have no problem with campers normally. Noobtube is a legitimate issue, but oh well.

" If you are going to complain about op weapons you should complain about the ump. easily the easiest to use/best weapon in the game. I have a good rush gamestyle and i have no problem with campers normally. Noobtube is a legitimate issue, but oh well. "

I'm pretty sick of this shit. I play MW2 multiplayer off and on and every time i come back i am able to get to the top one or two of the match without using cheap tactics or guns. Its pretty easy to quickly counter a lot of the tactics employed by shitty douche-whistle players. Sure, there are a couple times when you'll just die to noob-tubers or shotgun-sniping or something else that seems cheap, but as long as you play tactically you can always either stay away from them or catch them where they can't use their tactics to their advantage. Don't bitch about games being un-balanced when you haven't put the time or effort into actually trying out different tactics aimed specifically at taking those guys down. 
 
Bitching about MW2 being un-balanced is like bitching that starcraft is un-balanced: some things seem super un-balanced because you keep getting steam-rolled by someone doing something that destroys your army quickly and easily, but ultimately you're just a lazy player who would rather bitch and complain than change your tactics...

I've never seen a shotgun sniper, camper, or noobtuber win a match. What's the beef?
 
You've obviously played a metric fuckton of the game, everyone here has. It can't be that bad.

Heh. Look at Jared starting a Modern Warfare hate thread.  
 
DIS MY TURF DAWG. 
 
Also, MW2 is broken garbage.

Hey there, Errrrrrrc.
 
And I do recall you defending that game when it first came out, by the way! :P 
 
@HyBound said:

" I'm pretty sick of this shit. I play MW2 multiplayer off and on and every time i come back i am able to get to the top one or two of the match without using cheap tactics or guns. Its pretty easy to quickly counter a lot of the tactics employed by shitty douche-whistle players. Sure, there are a couple times when you'll just die to noob-tubers or shotgun-sniping or something else that seems cheap, but as long as you play tactically you can always either stay away from them or catch them where they can't use their tactics to their advantage. Don't bitch about games being un-balanced when you haven't put the time or effort into actually trying out different tactics aimed specifically at taking those guys down.   Bitching about MW2 being un-balanced is like bitching that starcraft is un-balanced: some things seem super un-balanced because you keep getting steam-rolled by someone doing something that destroys your army quickly and easily, but ultimately you're just a lazy player who would rather bitch and complain than change your tactics... "

I like MW2...

This is the reason I stopped playing the game. Hell, I don't even own it anymore. I couldn't stand the broken multiplayer. It was far too frustrating, even when I was doing great. And I don't see how anyone actually enjoys it because every single person I've seen or heard play the game get frustrated at other players. Broken, completely broken.

" Yes, yes Modern Warfare is a bit broken, I know why I stopped playing it despite putting ridiculous amounts of time into cod4. After watching that Spas12 video I felt like I wanted to jump right back into the game... it looks so ridiculously broken that I think I should give it another go. "

Lots of hate for one of the most popular online shooters, particularly here at GB. I figured all the kids whingeing and moaning about the multiplayer had stopped playing by now.

Moved to the Modern Warfare 2 forum.

You do realize that the people who don't like MW2 multiplayer are in the minority, right?

Why all the hate for MW2? It's fast, it's fun, and it's overall a really good FPS, probably the best on the current gen consoles.
 
The Single player campaign is fun too, and from my experience the controls are much more responsive that other FPS games, and enemies don't take forever to kill.

 @SpiralStairs: I don't think anyone can deny that MW2 multiplayer gets frustrating. There are some things in the game that many people, including myself, feel are unfair, and should be removed. For the haters, these things make the game not worth it to them. Thus, they'd disagree with you on it being the best current-gen shooter.
 
I find MW2 to be a bit rushed and claustrophobic for my tastes. I prefer a slower pace with less wracking of nerves. In MW2, getting hit from behind is way too common, because there are too many directions people can come from for me. I prefer finding a nice, defensible spot and controlling it, without having to constantly worry about whether or not someone's sneaking up behind me. That said, I still play and do well. There are some things that I'd want to see fixed, but overall, MW2 is a quality game.

Well, I don't like it because I'm BAD at it, and lack the patience, or focus, or time, to fix that.
Fuck it, I prefer counter strike anyway.

I'm guessing there are a lot of Halo fans on this thread?

 As with most people, I have a love-hate affair with MW2. There are certainly plenty of hooks that keep me coming back, time and time again. Titles, prestiging and yelling triumphantly at the screen when I shoot down a Pavelow or harrier are among those. There's certainly no denying the formula for MW2 works, it's been pumped to the masses who take to it like birds flying. It only becomes a problem when someone dickishly places a glass wall infront of those birds, and watches them slam up against it and fall hopelessly towards the unforgiving ground.  
 
It becomes a system of trial and error for me, where I'm constantly trying to maintain the balance of frustration vs. fun, it's a shame that frustration often triumphs. M20fucking3's, Magical Knives of Mordor that apparently cease pain for the wielder and grants an instant death upon slashing of the kneecaps, regardless of how many bullets I'm pumping into the chest of the person, and camping are probably the only things I whinge about incessantly while playing the game.  
 
Despite those flaws, I find myself unable to entirely remove MW2 and forget about it. The frantic, fast-paced action, the adrenaline rush you get when you scope a guy who's wishing the same thing you remain the reasons why I bite the hook and happily get drawn to the surface. Simply put, it's a game that succeeds in being fun. Something which in the sea of FPS out today, is something of a rarity. 

MW2 multiplayer was fun for the first 15 hours on day 1/2. I racked up nearly 3 days in multiplayer over 4 months and I really wanted to like it, but realised that I wasn't having any fun. so I traded it in for Bad Company 2, and I still play that regularly. 

For me the 3 bullet death with any gun is the worst, it ends up being the person who sees the other first that gets the kill, not whoever is the best shot like in Halo, or Gears (when there is no lag).