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    Limiting CPU usage on old games, what about GPU?

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    #1  Edited By trylks

    OK, so looks like I can move thousands of miles or kilometres away but I'm always at warm places (from Madrid (Spain) to Los Angeles (CA-USA) for three months)
     
    I've found it is possible to limit the CPU that a game is allowed to use, that is a good way to reduce the heat produced by old games, since they don't really need much CPU but they tend to use it at 100% regardless (which feels very wrong, but that's the standard).
     
    I can happily check the CPU usage with the tasks manager and see how this is reduced from 100%.
     
    Now I was wondering what could happen with the GPU, if it is used to 100% regardless too (since I can't check that) and how could I reduce that usage if so.
     
    I will probably install half-life (1) if I can get it to work and not to burn my computer.
     
    Thank you.

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    #2  Edited By SlasherMan

    Downclocking it should do the trick.
    Depending on what GPU you have, you may even be able to lower the voltages through software, as well.
     
    Check out RivaTuner and/or ATItool (works with non-ATI cards, too, don't let the name fool you).
     
    I'm curious, though, is this a laptop we're talking about or a desktop?

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    #3  Edited By Gav47

    Wouldn't using V-sync solve this problem?

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    #4  Edited By SlasherMan
    No, VSync just locks the framerate to the monitor's refresh rates to prevent tearing. It doesn't really lower GPU loads or temps.
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    #5  Edited By chaser324  Moderator

    You should be able to underclock your GPU, you'll just need to find the proper utility based on your video card.

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    #6  Edited By Gav47
    @SlasherMan: I didn't know that, I thought it actually made the system draw fewer frames.
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    #7  Edited By chaser324  Moderator
    @Gav47:  VSync will often make the system draw fewer frames, but that's not really the intended effect. VSync's main purpose is just to prevent screen tearing.
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    #8  Edited By trylks
    @SlasherMan: It's a laptop, heat is much more of an issue in laptops. Thank you, I'll try those.
     
    BTW, just to complete the thread slightly more, the best program to limit CPU usage I found so far is BES.
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    #9  Edited By HitmanAgent47

    You know if cpu usage is that high, maybe your cpu isn't that good. I would of suggested a better heatsink, however your using a laptop.

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    #10  Edited By JJWeatherman
    @SlasherMan said:
    " Downclocking it should do the trick. Depending on what GPU you have, you may even be able to lower the voltages through software, as well.   Check out RivaTuner and/or ATItool (works with non-ATI cards, too, don't let the name fool you).  I'm curious, though, is this a laptop we're talking about or a desktop? "
    If I'm remembering right, RivaTuner isn't supported anymore. I think the dev moved on to another software project. So that one probably wouldn't be the best to use.
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    #11  Edited By Marz
    @JJWeatherman said:
    " @SlasherMan said:
    " Downclocking it should do the trick. Depending on what GPU you have, you may even be able to lower the voltages through software, as well.   Check out RivaTuner and/or ATItool (works with non-ATI cards, too, don't let the name fool you).  I'm curious, though, is this a laptop we're talking about or a desktop? "
    If I'm remembering right, RivaTuner isn't supported anymore. I think the dev moved on to another software project. So that one probably wouldn't be the best to use. "

    Yeah the Rivatuner guy Unwinder now makes EVGA precision tool, i think he also does MSI Afterburner.  It a pretty good tool for overclocking and underclocking etc etc.
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    #12  Edited By wefwefasdf

    Does running old games really cause your laptop to overheat? Seems odd to me.

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    #13  Edited By trylks
    @HitmanAgent47:@SpikeSpiegel: any game on any CPU will use the 100% of it, no matter how old is the game and how new the cpu, it's just the way games are made, you can check it. There are some exceptions, starcraft (1) limited cpu usage with a patch time ago.
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    #14  Edited By HitmanAgent47
    @Trylks: Okay i'll test it out. I know certain unreal engine 3 games are like 100% cpu usage, I didn't know old games used that much. I'm only using a dual core, not sure if it's the same on more cores.
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    #15  Edited By HitmanAgent47
    @Trylks: I just tried one game, i'll edit in my findings, however just cause 2 runs on 58% on my cpu averagely. You can't go around creating misconceptions that your meager laptop equals everyone else's pc gaming experience. I always find ppl will say, well I run it like this, so everyone else must have the same problems. Half life 2 is around 75% average, so the problem is on your end.
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    #16  Edited By trylks

    I guess just cause is using only one core. Half life 2 may have fixed that, as I said there are some exceptions. The norm with old games is that they will use all the CPU they have available.  It took starcraft 8 or 9 years to get that patch, I don't know if a similar patch for half-life does exist the time span between, hal-life 1 and 2 is much smaller than starcraft 1 and 2, and starcraft 1 got that patch quite recently, also.
     
    Every old game would be like this, it would use 100% of the cpu, and that wouldn't be fixed because newer games would be released before, the minimum system requirements would go up and in the end, usually there wasn't a lot of spare resources on the cpu when considering latest games with latest hardware. However, when playing old games with new hardware there is a lot of power that doesn't need to be used, since games industry is becoming more mature and there is a wider time span in which games were released with different system requirements
     
    Try the oldest you may have, the logical assumption is that they should use less than half-life 2, since they are older, but the case is that they will use 100% or 50% if they have one single thread. You should try really old games like theme hospital or half-life 1 before asserting the problem is on my end, even more recent games will probably have that problem, as age of empires 2, other game I may play.
     
    Those are games I own and I didn't finish, although I was really close to finishing theme hospital. A few years ago I would play homeworld and it would use 100% of my CPU, it was on a P4@2.5GHz, while the recommended requirements were something like 350MHz, if I am not mistaken, that was during the winter, in summer I tried to play black&white, but I didn't know about this software and had to quit. Now I have a centrino duo and I could try it, again it would use 100% or 50%*, actually I will play homeworld 2 if I can find it.
     
    *notice that 50% is still too much, for so old games, it would be really bad if a core would take all the load, as that core would be overheated while the other would do nothing, but I think that is not the case, every I/O interruption may cause the process to resume on a different core.

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    #17  Edited By Claude
    @Trylks said:
      I will probably install half-life (1) if I can get it to work and not to burn my computer.  Thank you. "
    You have more problems than I can explain.
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    #18  Edited By trylks
    @Claude said:

    " You have more problems than I can explain. "

    lol, wut? I will limit the CPU usage with BES and use the programs that SlasherMan recommended me to reduce GPU heat. (Thank you again, BTW).
     
    I cannot edit the thread title to add "[solved]", otherwise I would.
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    #19  Edited By Claude
    @Trylks said:
    " @Claude said:

    " You have more problems than I can explain. "

    lol, wut? I will limit the CPU usage with BES and use the programs that SlasherMan recommended me to reduce GPU heat. (Thank you again, BTW). I cannot edit the thread title to add "[solved]", otherwise I would. "


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