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    The PC (Personal Computer) is a highly configurable and upgradable gaming platform that, among home systems, sports the widest variety of control methods, largest library of games, and cutting edge graphics and sound capabilities.

    Surprisingly some games nearly max out on low end

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    I'm talking about on 
    ATI HD4550
     AMD Athlon X3 3.0 GHZ
    1 gig of DDR 3 memory, 
     
    And I'm running Gears of Wars maxed, Sims 3 Maxed, Modern Warfare 2 maxed, etc. I'm going to try NFS shift also.
    But, only because I never turn Anti Aliasing on, or...I may have it on 2X or something. But heck you don't really need it when your playing high action games like Modern Ware 2, your too busy to notice jagged edges in the game.
     
    But, I know I'll need to get another gig of ram soon, most likely a 2 gig chip soon. Anyway, so what are some of your specs when running games? Or my question really is, what games were you surprised that you were able to run on high quality or ALMOST all high?

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    #2  Edited By HitmanAgent47

    Your not maxing out anything. Maxed out means full anti aliasing and 60 frames per second. You should have at least 4X AA to clear most of the jaggies. Also it depends on your display resolution, it's easier to run lower resolution.

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    #3  Edited By BraveToaster

    I play Gears of War maxed out on my Xbox

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    #4  Edited By l3eaudacious

    ATI 5870
    AMD Phenom 2 x6 Ruining @ 4.0ghz
    8 gig of DDR3 ( 2x 4gig sticks) at ~1600mhz, and 9-9-9-20-T1  timings
     
    Can pretty much run everything on max with aa, and af usually maxed out as well to 8x and 16x. So am not really surprised by it lol.

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    #5  Edited By warxsnake

    games have been easy to run on PC since 2006/07,( or since the release of the PS3), where 90% of the games became multiplatform and the race for who has the better engine became stagnant thanks to the standardization of engines such as UE 3.  
     
    A PC gamer who is low on cash or just simply "wants to keep things simple" could technically run anything up to now (and until the death of the current gen consoles) on "equivalent-to-better" hardware relative to those consoles; i.e. a Core2Duo, 2~4GB RAM, and an 8800GTX. 
     
    This is why I simply do not respect people who say PC gaming is too expensive, or people who just throw the $3000 number around to push their unfounded arguments; and that happens sometimes even on the bombcast. Because this shows that they do not do any research on the field of PC gaming. That's fine, don't do your research... but don't go ahead and make an ass out of yourself in forums or on-air or whatever.   
     
    As an example, I sent my 8800GTX ive had since 07 to one of my community's members for free, and he's been running every single game out now without any problems and mostly maxed out or at least better looking than their console counterparts. (BFBC2, Mass Effect2..etc)
     
    I never understood why people hate on a platform because it gives you choice and freedom. Choice is bad, mmkay? Yeah I'd much rather stick to my xbox (which, yes, I do own) with its totalitarian xbLive system and exorbitantly priced tiny hard drives.  
     
    The 2TB of games,music and porn I have on my PC are all shit, Steam is shit, ventrilo is shit, being able to play all my games on PC while on the couch with an xbox controller and hooked up to a 46" 120Hz HDTV and 2 other 1920x1200 monitors is shit, being able to play your games in windowed mode at twice the resolution of HDTVs while being able to click out of the game and browse the web is shit, being on ventrilo and steam in constant communication with your friends whether you are in game or not is shit...everything is shit. :) 
     
    To the OP: Good fucking job, get the most out of that rig!

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    #6  Edited By TheSeductiveMoose

    Napoelon/Empire: Total War on High/Ultra with my-
     @warxsnake said:

    Core2Duo, 4GB RAM, and an 8800GTX.
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    @Axxol: lol
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    #8  Edited By Clinkz
    @Axxol said:
    " I play Gears of War maxed out on my Xbox "
    Highest settings every time oh yeah baby.
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    #9  Edited By 6ZZA

    i have a  
    2.3 ghz quad core. Q8200 i think 
    a 5770 1 gig 
    and 4 gigs of DDR2 RAM 
     
    i can run basically anything but not with alot of AA

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    #10  Edited By BraveToaster
    @InfamousBIG said:
    " @Axxol: lol "
    @Clinkz said:
    " @Axxol said:
    " I play Gears of War maxed out on my Xbox "
    Highest settings every time oh yeah baby. "
    That's how we roll, son!
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    @HitmanAgent47: I run in 1280 by 720, and with Anti being the only thing not on full, then that's called "almost maxed out" See the title of the forum?
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    #12  Edited By Diamond
    @warxsnake said:
    As an example, I sent my 8800GTX ive had since 07 to one of my community's members for free, and he's been running every single game out now without any problems and mostly maxed out or at least better looking than their console counterparts. (BFBC2, Mass Effect2..etc)
    There's plenty of PC games that are still coded poorly enough (BFBC2, GTA4...) that a 07 computer would run far far worse than a 360 though.  My 2009 computer runs games such as those worse than my 360...  It may run good enough for the guy, but don't dismiss valid complaints.
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    You definitely should have at least 3gb of ram.
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    #14  Edited By tmthomsen
    @HitmanAgent47 said:
    "

    Your not maxing out anything. Maxed out means full anti aliasing and 60 frames per second. You should have at least 4X AA to clear most of the jaggies. Also it depends on your display resolution, it's easier to run lower resolution.

    "
    Why is 60 FPS "maxed out"?
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    #15  Edited By HitmanAgent47
    @drummerboykhari:  720p isn't that high, I mean for pc games X768 is really like the second lowest setting if I remember correctly since I don't use that setting. When you go use X1050, X1080, X1200, X1600 it gets slower with higher resolutions.

    @TMThomsen: Usually, however these days, for games like metro 2033, I don't see how that is possible with AA. It's an old pc definition years ago, when ppl say they can't max out crysis yet, that's exactly what they mean, full AA and 60 frames. I suppose getting near 60 is still good enough, you can still say you can almost max out your game. My point is alot of ppl uses the definition maxed out using minimal AA, 30 frames per second, that's not a pc definition of maxed out.
     
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    #16  Edited By No0b0rAmA
    @warxsnake:  Thats not completely true, a lot of console games are pretty system heavy, especially the badly ported ones, say GTA 4.
    @HitmanAgent47: Maxing out has nothing to do with fps. Maxing out is playing a game on highest settings X8 AA, X16 AF and at 1920x1080 - 2560x1600.
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    #17  Edited By HitmanAgent47
    @No0b0rAmA: You still haven't answered my question, why do ppl not think it's possible yet to max out crysis? We can play crysis at the highest setting, full AA, yet no one has claimed yet they can max that game out yet. That's right, it's a definition of 60 frames per second, if it was over 30 we can max it out. However if you don't know the definition which isn't my problem since i'm a pc gamer for most of my life, i'm not going to argue. I'm saying it's the highest settings of course and 60 frames, not 30 like what most ppl belive (which is a misconception created by console gamers as maxed out because console gamers are mostly 30 frames) Where did I not say the highest setting? That's obvious, yet that doesn't mean your maxing anything out if you don't have the frames to go along with it. You think running a game at 20 frames per second is maxed out if your settings are on max?
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    #18  Edited By Jadeskye
    @TMThomsen said:
    " @HitmanAgent47 said:
    "

    Your not maxing out anything. Maxed out means full anti aliasing and 60 frames per second. You should have at least 4X AA to clear most of the jaggies. Also it depends on your display resolution, it's easier to run lower resolution.

    "
    Why is 60 FPS "maxed out"? "
    very simple, 60fps is the meeting point between general inability to sense a higher fps, meaningful performance improvement, required resources and logic. 
     
     basically 60 looks good and theres no point going much higher unless it's a specific requirement of the individual. 
     
    This rule applies mostly to FPS and racing games but it does bleed over.
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    @jadeskye said:
    " @TMThomsen said:
    " @HitmanAgent47 said:
    "

    Your not maxing out anything. Maxed out means full anti aliasing and 60 frames per second. You should have at least 4X AA to clear most of the jaggies. Also it depends on your display resolution, it's easier to run lower resolution.

    "
    Why is 60 FPS "maxed out"? "
    very simple, 60fps is the meeting point between general inability to sense a higher fps, meaningful performance improvement, required resources and logic.   basically 60 looks good and theres no point going much higher unless it's a specific requirement of the individual.  This rule applies mostly to FPS and racing games but it does bleed over. "
    60 FPS is fucking sexy, that's why.
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    #20  Edited By MrKlorox

    I've never ever considered AA to be part of the max settings thing. It's possible to run higher than max settings if AA is part of the equation due to cards having more options than shown in the official control panels. Unless you count only what's available in the game's options screen as "settings".
     
    Then you get to "what's considered higher". 16x supersampling may preform worse than "32x SLI AA" in most games, but depending on the game might look worse also.

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    #21  Edited By Jadeskye
    @InfamousBIG said:
    " @jadeskye said:
    " @TMThomsen said:
    " @HitmanAgent47 said:
    "

    Your not maxing out anything. Maxed out means full anti aliasing and 60 frames per second. You should have at least 4X AA to clear most of the jaggies. Also it depends on your display resolution, it's easier to run lower resolution.

    "
    Why is 60 FPS "maxed out"? "
    very simple, 60fps is the meeting point between general inability to sense a higher fps, meaningful performance improvement, required resources and logic.   basically 60 looks good and theres no point going much higher unless it's a specific requirement of the individual.  This rule applies mostly to FPS and racing games but it does bleed over. "
    60 FPS is fucking sexy, that's why. "
    Also this. especially with a ton of AA.
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    #22  Edited By Demyx

    I was surprised to play Mass Effect 2 on mid-high settings.

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    #23  Edited By tmthomsen
    @HitmanAgent47 said:
    " @drummerboykhari:  720p isn't that high, I mean for pc games X768 is really like the second lowest setting if I remember correctly since I don't use that setting. When you go use X1050, X1080, X1200, X1600 it gets slower with higher resolutions.

    @TMThomsen: Usually, however these days, for games like metro 2033, I don't see how that is possible with AA. It's an old pc definition years ago, when ppl say they can't max out crysis yet, that's exactly what they mean, full AA and 60 frames. I suppose getting near 60 is still good enough, you can still say you can almost max out your game. My point is alot of ppl uses the definition maxed out using minimal AA, 30 frames per second, that's not a pc definition of maxed out.   "
    I would say they if you have a 75 Hz display, 75 FPS would be your "maxed out".
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    #24  Edited By No0b0rAmA

     @HitmanAgent47:  If your "maxing out" your game, it means your playing at the highest settings, without taking into account the performance of the game. Your maxing out to see how well your pc performs.

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    #25  Edited By HitmanAgent47
    @No0b0rAmA: that's your definition, however not the one pc gamers use on other sites.  It's just these days, no one really knows what maxed out means anymore, too much ppl who are console gamers reinterpreting the defintion of lower framerates or them having lousy videocards trying to use a definition to make themselves feel better. It's like equilvent of saying you run intergrated graphics yet you maxed out the game. Yeah right.

    @TMThomsen: No it's just 60 frames, even if you are using a lousy display that uses 75Hz.  
     
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    #26  Edited By No0b0rAmA
    @HitmanAgent47: Yeah, you've maxed out the game, but it runs like shit and lt's completely unplayable. Plus if your computer is that shitty, you won't even get into the main menu . Thats how people benchmark their computers, "How many fps do you get from crysis maxed out?".
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    #27  Edited By WEGGLES
    @TMThomsen: 
     
    It's a great frame rate, looks smooth etc. 
     
    Maxing out is having a game run it at ultra high settings smoothly.
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    @Demyx said:
    " I was surprised to play Mass Effect 2 on mid-high settings. "
    Mass Effect 2 is a wonderfully optimized game.  I get better FPS with ME2 than ME1.
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    #29  Edited By No0b0rAmA
    @WEGGLES: DAMMIT MAN! TAKE MY SIDE! TOGETHER WE CAN RULE THE GALAXY. MAXING OUT = PURE SETTINGS
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    @No0b0rAmA said:
    " @WEGGLES: DAMMIT MAN! TAKE MY SIDE! TOGETHER WE CAN RULE THE GALAXY. MAXING OUT = PURE SETTINGS "
    Weggles is right.
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    #31  Edited By Demyx
    @No0b0rAmA said:
    " @WEGGLES: DAMMIT MAN! TAKE MY SIDE! TOGETHER WE CAN RULE THE GALAXY. MAXING OUT = PURE SETTINGS "
    yep, i would be inclined to agree. Just wish I could max out my games :(
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    #32  Edited By Raven10

    I can play most games at 60 fps with: 
     
    Intel Core i7 2.8 ghz 
    Radeon 5870 
    6 GB RAM 
     
    Crysis plays well at 1920x1080, max settings, 2xAA. Probably between 55 and 65 fps depending on the situation. Some of the most intense situations run at closer to 30, but overall great performance. Ran Mass Effect 2 maxed at 60 fps. I can run Half Life 2 at max, including AA at 300 fps. Only game I can't run well is Cryostasis because I don't have a GeForce. Haven't tried Metro.
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    #33  Edited By Aelric
    @warxsnake:  Folks still throw around the $3000 number? Hell, I thought the $1500 that the Tested how-to video stated was way overpriced. I built my computer with no harware training other than tinkering around for less than a grand. The only things that really cost that much were the monitor and the graphics card. The trick is shopping online for the parts and not blowing cash on needless bells and whistles, like liquid cooling, fancy cases and solid state drives.

     
    By the way:
     
    3TB between 2HDDs
    GeForce 260 GTX
    Intel Core 2 duo at 3.14GHz
    4 GB RAM
    23 inch monitor
     
    I could have done it cheaper but I overkilled a bit on the HDDs and monitor.
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    #34  Edited By tmthomsen
    @WEGGLES said:
    " @TMThomsen:   It's a great frame rate, looks smooth etc.   Maxing out is having a game run it at ultra high settings smoothly. "
    But 100 FPS is smoother than 60 FPS, so why is 60 FPS considered "maxed out" by "the pc community"?
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    #35  Edited By WEGGLES
    @TMThomsen said:
    " @WEGGLES said:
    " @TMThomsen:   It's a great frame rate, looks smooth etc.   Maxing out is having a game run it at ultra high settings smoothly. "
    But 100 FPS is smoother than 60 FPS, so why is 60 FPS considered "maxed out" by "the pc community"? "
    Because most monitors can only show upto 60fps unless you have a fancy 120hz, 240hz etc monitor.
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    #36  Edited By RoyCampbell

    I can max out Max Payne 2 on a Lifebook that has around 500mb of RAM and a 1.2 ghz processor.
     
    Beat that.

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    #37  Edited By hmmisee

    NFS Shift is badly optimized, it lags on my computer (i5/750,GTX260). I think its more a console game.

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    #39  Edited By iSylence

    I run most things out today at max settings no sweat. Got an Intel E8500 Core2 (dual core) 3.16GHz CPU, 4GB DDR2 1066MHz RAM, and a 9800GTX+. Built it at the end of 08 and it's still doing me fine, I'll probably build another rig in about a year and a half but only because I love building PCs, not because I really need it lol :) I swap between playing on my PC and my 360.
     
    I don't run the super hard out games on max of course (Crysis and Metro 2033 but come on those ones are crazy), but definitely the multiplatform ones.

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    #40  Edited By Meowshi

    I can play Runescape with the settings AT MAX. 
     
    Hell yeah.

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