Persona 4 Arena wins Fighting game of the year

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#1 Posted by Bloo561 (92 posts) -

Anybody agrees or disagrees with that?

#2 Posted by Ersanven (91 posts) -

I strongly agree.

Totally unbiased.

#3 Posted by Maajin (1039 posts) -

It was the only fighting game I played this year, so I guess it wins by default for me.

#4 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19158 posts) -
#5 Posted by Neurotic (631 posts) -

I'm sure I'd agree if I was allowed to play it.

Totally not still bitter...

As it is, I'd go with Tekken Tag 2. I played SFXT once and knew it wasn't my cup of tea. Didn't play DOA.

#6 Posted by Demoskinos (13870 posts) -

Fuck No. I'd go with Tekken Tag 2. That game was fantastic.

#7 Posted by Sauson (560 posts) -

Tekken Tag Tournament 2 should have won but when people who don't play fighting games vote, I'm not surprised that the Persona game won.

#8 Posted by Petiew (1279 posts) -

What is Persona 4 Arena?
Still haven't gotten around to buying TTT2 but I can say SfxT didn't deserve to win at least.
I'd assume people voted because they liked the Persona series, not because of the quality of the fighting mechanics though.

#9 Posted by EpicSteve (6442 posts) -

From an outsider's perspective, this seems like it has been a great year for fighting games.

#10 Posted by golguin (3657 posts) -

It's the only fighting game I've ever played so yes.

#11 Edited by TooWalrus (12977 posts) -

I haven't played Tekken yet, and DOA has never been my thing... Street Fighter X Tekken is actually the only game I've bought this year that I've actually regretted buying...  
 
But god damn do I love P4 Arena. But hell, I'd love that game if it was a visual novel.

#12 Posted by IrrelevantJohn (930 posts) -

I've played countless hours of both Persona 4 Arena and Tekken Tag Tournament 2 and I might just say I enjoy Tekken a little bit more but P4A deserves it. Also it's still the VGAs so yeah.

#13 Posted by FLStyle (4396 posts) -

@Petiew said:

What is Persona 4 Arena? Still haven't gotten around to buying TTT2 but I can say SfxT didn't deserve to win at least. I'd assume people voted because they liked the Persona series, not because of the quality of the fighting mechanics though.

Persona 4 Arena's mechanics are just as good as any other fighting game, why would you think they're not?

#14 Posted by Ataribomb (101 posts) -

Totally agree that it's an amazing fighter, and I can easily see why it won. Though if you're asking for opinions, I definitely voted for TTT2.

#15 Posted by declin99 (15 posts) -

TTT2 was an awesome game

#16 Posted by Petiew (1279 posts) -
@FLStyle: Sorry, I guess I worded it strangely, that wasn't really what I was trying to imply. I can't play the game since its not out out here so I personally can't say anything about the mechanics. I've primarily been playing and enjoying a lot of blazblue recently, so I'm not even taking a jab at arc games. Persona is however already a well known jrpg series, when fans see the name they're going to vote for it regardless of how good the mechanics are, or if they've even played this version. (Like the guy on the European facebook page)
#17 Posted by FLStyle (4396 posts) -

@Petiew said:

@FLStyle: Sorry, I guess I worded it strangely, that wasn't really what I was trying to imply. I can't play the game since its not out out here so I personally can't say anything about the mechanics. I've primarily been playing and enjoying a lot of blazblue recently, so I'm not even taking a jab at arc games. Persona is however already a well known jrpg series, when fans see the name they're going to vote for it regardless of how good the mechanics are, or if they've even played this version. (Like the guy on the European facebook page)

Ahh I see, makes sense. FYI the only fan voted categories at these awards are Most Anticipated Game and Character of the Year, all the others are voted by 25 journalists, including Jeff (though fans can vote who they'd like to win on the VGA website).

#18 Posted by Gaff (1493 posts) -

@FluxWaveZ: Thank god, some context.

@Petiew said:

@FLStyle: Sorry, I guess I worded it strangely, that wasn't really what I was trying to imply. I can't play the game since its not out out here so I personally can't say anything about the mechanics. I've primarily been playing and enjoying a lot of blazblue recently, so I'm not even taking a jab at arc games. Persona is however already a well known jrpg series, when fans see the name they're going to vote for it regardless of how good the mechanics are, or if they've even played this version. (Like the guy on the European facebook page)

And that's not how the main categories in the VGAs work, I'm afraid.

http://www.spike.com/articles/00jd9r/video-game-awards-meet-the-vga-2012-advisory-council: These are the voters. The only thing the public (in other words, the fans) votes on is "Most Anticipated" and "Best Character".

One could argue that P4A is one of the few games on that list that doesn't repackage what its predecessors have done (DOA, TTT2), and that isn't mired by very ugly circumstances, unlike SFxT (questionable "DLC", on-disc or not, bugs, etc).

#19 Posted by Petiew (1279 posts) -
@Gaff: @FLStyle: My mistake then. I must have misinterpreted the post or something.
#20 Posted by ImmortalSaiyan (4655 posts) -

Game seems solid. Only got it a couple days ago and mostly played story mode. Critics seem to like SFXT much more than the fighting game elite.

Dead or Alive 5 would of been my personal pick but not bothered it lost.

#21 Posted by Phatmac (5686 posts) -

It's weird that a niche game like Persona 4 Arena won. I'm surprised and glad that it won though.

#22 Posted by Brodehouse (9370 posts) -

It was the unlikeliest candidate since the world collectively hates 'anime fighters'.

Best fighting game I've ever played, the one that got me into the inner mechanics of fighting games rather than just what works. My GOTY.

#23 Posted by Karmosin (199 posts) -

Only by judging that I really like both blazblue and persona, I'd bet that this would get my vote also, if I hadn't yet had the chance to play it. Never been a fan of tekken (and 3D-fighting overall), have yet to try a DoA-game but couldn't care less about the series and street fighter vs tekken is pretty fun but still never got me hooked. Oh well, guess I'll have to find out next year...

#24 Posted by Hunter5024 (5174 posts) -

Tekken should have won. I thought Persona 4 Arena was an awesome surprise, but the things I liked about that game had nothing to do with the fighting.

#25 Posted by MistaSparkle (2146 posts) -

I've never really been able to get into and like to play fighting games, but I LOVE this game.

#26 Posted by Hailinel (22713 posts) -

I approve of this heartily, though I also enjoyed the hell out of the other nominees.

#27 Posted by Animasta (14460 posts) -

@Brodehouse said:

It was the unlikeliest candidate since the world collectively hates 'anime fighters'. Best fighting game I've ever played, the one that got me into the inner mechanics of fighting games rather than just what works. My GOTY.

yeah, now THIS is an unlikely candidate.

Although I can't really support it since I am not a fighting game fan and I only really liked it for the story (the gameplay was fine, but eh)

#28 Posted by Video_Game_King (34614 posts) -

@Sauson said:

Tekken Tag Tournament 2 should have won but when people who don't play fighting games vote, I'm not surprised that the Persona game won.

I am. If people who don't play games vote, wouldn't they have voted for something they'd have heard of?

#29 Posted by Vade (391 posts) -

I don't know. It doesn't quite feel right with the region lock and everything. None of the games are special or clear winners though.

#30 Posted by Animasta (14460 posts) -

@Vade said:

I don't know. It doesn't quite feel right with the region lock and everything. None of the games are special or clear winners though.

well it's not like spike is bringing in Europeans to vote on this thing.

#31 Posted by Vorbis (2748 posts) -

It might win Europe's fighter of the year in 2014 at this rate.

#32 Posted by Shirogane (3561 posts) -

@Gaff said:

@FluxWaveZ: Thank god, some context.

@Petiew said:

@FLStyle: Sorry, I guess I worded it strangely, that wasn't really what I was trying to imply. I can't play the game since its not out out here so I personally can't say anything about the mechanics. I've primarily been playing and enjoying a lot of blazblue recently, so I'm not even taking a jab at arc games. Persona is however already a well known jrpg series, when fans see the name they're going to vote for it regardless of how good the mechanics are, or if they've even played this version. (Like the guy on the European facebook page)

And that's not how the main categories in the VGAs work, I'm afraid.

http://www.spike.com/articles/00jd9r/video-game-awards-meet-the-vga-2012-advisory-council: These are the voters. The only thing the public (in other words, the fans) votes on is "Most Anticipated" and "Best Character".

One could argue that P4A is one of the few games on that list that doesn't repackage what its predecessors have done (DOA, TTT2), and that isn't mired by very ugly circumstances, unlike SFxT (questionable "DLC", on-disc or not, bugs, etc).

Isn't mired by ugly circumstances isn't quite true, considering half the world still can't play it.

#33 Posted by EquitasInvictus (1868 posts) -

The game definitely accomplished a lot of things, notably greatly extending the reach of the type of anime fighter that never really got any notice in a way that was actually pretty accessible for a lot of players even outside of the genre (fans of the SMT/Persona who don't usually play fighting games, for example). It even implemented a really well-done high quality visual novel-esque story that fits nicely into the Persona 4 canon. Finally, as icing on the cake, its opening sales (in Japan at least) apparently outdid Street Fighter IV, Tekken 6, and BlazBlue.

That's pretty impressive, and I'd say it definitely deserves the distinction.

#34 Posted by Gaff (1493 posts) -
@Shirogane

@Gaff said:

@FluxWaveZ: Thank god, some context.

@Petiew said:

@FLStyle: Sorry, I guess I worded it strangely, that wasn't really what I was trying to imply. I can't play the game since its not out out here so I personally can't say anything about the mechanics. I've primarily been playing and enjoying a lot of blazblue recently, so I'm not even taking a jab at arc games. Persona is however already a well known jrpg series, when fans see the name they're going to vote for it regardless of how good the mechanics are, or if they've even played this version. (Like the guy on the European facebook page)

And that's not how the main categories in the VGAs work, I'm afraid.

http://www.spike.com/articles/00jd9r/video-game-awards-meet-the-vga-2012-advisory-council: These are the voters. The only thing the public (in other words, the fans) votes on is "Most Anticipated" and "Best Character".

One could argue that P4A is one of the few games on that list that doesn't repackage what its predecessors have done (DOA, TTT2), and that isn't mired by very ugly circumstances, unlike SFxT (questionable "DLC", on-disc or not, bugs, etc).

Isn't mired by ugly circumstances isn't quite true, considering half the world still can't play it.

I'll just point at the Yanks' World Series: equally not quite true, considering half the world couldn't care less about baseball.
#35 Posted by Worcanna (90 posts) -

It feels unfair to say "I need to preface this with the line "I am a persona fan"" every time i want to say that the game deserves credit where credit is due. It also shows how catty some fighting game fans are too. Lines like "When non fighting game fans vote" or "I feel it shouldn't be on the list". It is buy and large, a Blazblue/Guilty Gear style game and thus deserves it. For all the talk of how the story is, the story shouldn't be your problem if your not into it. just love the games fighting engine since most fighting fans are used to no story at all or at best a b-movie slock-fest. Either way. I personally am not sure how it won. DOA5 is a good game, so was SFXTK if you cut past the crap and TTT2 has a lot of fans. I think it was because it was a fighting game for everyone, something hard to do and managed to turn fighting fans to a RPG and RPG fans to a fighter. It crossed the boundary :)

#36 Posted by Shirogane (3561 posts) -

@Gaff said:

@Shirogane

@Gaff said:

@FluxWaveZ: Thank god, some context.

@Petiew said:

@FLStyle: Sorry, I guess I worded it strangely, that wasn't really what I was trying to imply. I can't play the game since its not out out here so I personally can't say anything about the mechanics. I've primarily been playing and enjoying a lot of blazblue recently, so I'm not even taking a jab at arc games. Persona is however already a well known jrpg series, when fans see the name they're going to vote for it regardless of how good the mechanics are, or if they've even played this version. (Like the guy on the European facebook page)

And that's not how the main categories in the VGAs work, I'm afraid.

http://www.spike.com/articles/00jd9r/video-game-awards-meet-the-vga-2012-advisory-council: These are the voters. The only thing the public (in other words, the fans) votes on is "Most Anticipated" and "Best Character".

One could argue that P4A is one of the few games on that list that doesn't repackage what its predecessors have done (DOA, TTT2), and that isn't mired by very ugly circumstances, unlike SFxT (questionable "DLC", on-disc or not, bugs, etc).

Isn't mired by ugly circumstances isn't quite true, considering half the world still can't play it.



I'll just point at the Yanks' World Series: equally not quite true, considering half the world couldn't care less about baseball.

Except we do care about this game? Just in this thread alone there's multiple people who'd want to play it but can't. That comparison was just utterly stupid.

#37 Posted by LiquidPrince (15609 posts) -

@Demoskinos said:

Fuck No. I'd go with Tekken Tag 2. That game was fantastic.

Ew. The only competition Persona 4 Arena had this year was from DOA5. But even then I'd say P4 was better.

#38 Posted by Animasta (14460 posts) -

@Worcanna: lol, I agree with you mostly, but people who like fighting games and like JRPG's is a weird definition of everyone.

#39 Posted by csl316 (7364 posts) -

Tekken Tag 2, everything about it was so well executed.

Granted, P4 Arena's purpose for me was interactive novel, for better or worse.

#40 Posted by Demoskinos (13870 posts) -

@LiquidPrince said:

@Demoskinos said:

Fuck No. I'd go with Tekken Tag 2. That game was fantastic.

Ew. The only competition Persona 4 Arena had this year was from DOA5. But even then I'd say P4 was better.

Dude. I haven't liked a Tekken game since Tekken 3 but it is without a doubt the best Tekken game in years. Even as someone who was very pro DOA going into September if someone asked me for a recommendation for a fighting game this year I wouldn't pause to say Tekken Tag 2.

#41 Edited by Bourbon_Warrior (4523 posts) -

@Animasta said:

@Vade said:

I don't know. It doesn't quite feel right with the region lock and everything. None of the games are special or clear winners though.

well it's not like spike is bringing in Europeans to vote on this thing.

Seeing who voted it makes sense that Persona won. This is from 2011 cant imagine it's changed much.

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#42 Posted by AngelN7 (2959 posts) -

I only played Dead or Alive 5 wich was and still is really fun so that would be mine , I like Persona but not enough to get into Persona 4 Arena at the moment. I'm not that good at fighting games even less the 2D ones and seeing as this was done by the same devs who made the Gulty Gear/Blazblue wich is even more complicated in terms of understanding how the system works (stuff like some characers having an specific metter to count how many bullets or needles they have just puts me off those games) 3D fighters are usually more approchable (punch , kick , block no need for fancy button inputs on low level play) plus you don't have to worry about metters and ultra combos (in some of them) , DOA5 is more "simple" to understand for newbies like me! at and the roster wasn't as intimidating as the 30+ characters in Tekken Tag 2.

#43 Posted by Jeff (3336 posts) -

I'd say that the more exciting thing is that there were enough proper fighting games out this year to have a good, strong category without lumping, like, WWE or other "fighting-but-not-fighting" games into the list.

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#44 Posted by mrfluke (4844 posts) -

@Jeff said:

I'd say that the more exciting thing is that there were enough proper fighting games out this year to have a good, strong category without lumping, like, WWE or other "fighting-but-not-fighting" games into the list.

totally agree, curious to see where the genre goes from here though, if it will keep on staying strong, or if it will die back down now

#45 Posted by TohruAdachi (261 posts) -

Still waiting for a port for the PS Vita of the fighting game of the year...

#46 Posted by Petiew (1279 posts) -
@AngelN7: For blazblue at least I think its bark is worse than its bite. Once you've played for a little while you get used to the systems. Combo timing is way more lenient than say SSF4 and you can start feeling like a badass after a few of hours playing one character. From Continuum Shift onwards they added a really comprehensive tutorial covering everything you need to know, there's even character specific tutorials that help you get to grips with some of the more complicated unique character attacks. I think the tutorial system is carried over to P4A too and I've heard the systems in that game were also more friendly for beginners. (Though I can't confirm)
3D fighters on the other hand scare me, trying to go through the moves tutorial on Virtua Fighter 5 was a harrowing experience. Even at a jump in basic level I get destroyed in 5 seconds in that game.
 
@Worcanna: The first week or so of SFxT was really fun! The combo system granted a lot of unique opportunities and the cast of characters were really different. It just kind of fell apart after that though which is a shame since I thought it looked promising. I wonder if the 2013 patch will bring more people back.
#47 Posted by mrfluke (4844 posts) -

doa sold well, so weil see another doa but im gonna guess that wont be for a good while as those guys will want to finish yaiba and redeem ninja gaiden on a next gen system, (which personally, DOA is my fighting goty, stupid boob jiggle and fake videogame ladies be damned, still a great fighting game with a entertainingly stupid story)

curious to see if they will continue persona 4 arenas story with another fighting game, or a full persona 5

we'll see another mainline tekken, but id imagine that one will be a reinvention of tekken

injustice is still a thing, hope we hear alot more about it next year. i want those guys to finish that game and get back to MK and do a MK10

and then blazblue is still moving forward with a sequel.

and then street fighter and king of fighters i imagine we wont see another one of those till next gen

#48 Posted by Tan (421 posts) -

Definitely not. But fantastic online.

#49 Posted by Apathylad (3065 posts) -

@Brodehouse said:

It was the unlikeliest candidate since the world collectively hates 'anime fighters'. Best fighting game I've ever played, the one that got me into the inner mechanics of fighting games rather than just what works. My GOTY.

I disagree. Persona has a big enough following for it not to be considered 'just another anime fighter'. It's a bigger name than something like BlazBlue or Skullgirls. Frankly, I would have been surprised if it didn't win. Street Fighter x Tekken had the DLC backlash and a buggy launch, too.

#50 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19158 posts) -

@Apathylad said:

Frankly, I would have been surprised if it didn't win.

Why? Do you think Persona 4 is a bigger name than "Tekken" or "Dead or Alive"?

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