" for the past 2 months i have used the 360 analog for sf4 and did quite well. yesterday i got the mad catz TE(my first stick ever) and i suck so bad with it. "
its gana take you some time to get good at it, that is if you dont end up smashing it lol ;)
"bring two players of equal skill and it wont mater what there using..."
that wasn't how your phrased it before (you claimed you were as good as everyone here if not better.) I agree with you here though, obviously if the two players have equal skill it doesn't matter.
and yeah, daigo is good because he's been playing forever and started with stick. same can be said with gerstmann, he's been playing forever and started with pad.
but the shortcut motions were not created with pads in mind (not neccessarily). They were created to eliminate barriers of entry into the game. Street fighter is still an arcade fighter. It was designed with arcade components in mind first, and then adapted to controllers on home console. So its the PURE way to play, as the designers intended. (don't misinterpret, i don't mean best way, thats your own opinion). But sticks to me just seem like a more precise gamepad. I mean think about it, everything is larger. Hence, sensitivity is larger and you get more control out of it.
And almost all good players (and i mean really good, like pro players) uses sticks. All the top players in Japan uses sticks (so yeah, i might not know everyone in japan, but why would i need to know of a scrub playing with pad?), because they play in the arcade. And pro pad players generally play tekken or soul calibur. You hardly see any pro players using pad in street fighter.
but hey, back to the point, you are right, i'm not trying to disagree with you. I'm trying to point out some facts that you seem to be missing. At our level of play, pad and stick is indistinguishable. So to each their own.
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" And pro pad players generally play tekken" hmmmmmmmmmmmm!!! maybe you hit on a good point here!!! as im coming from a tekken background, and this is the first street fighter i have played proper hardcore... hearing you tekken view makes sence. but the problem is when like me and others, you've been playing on pad for years and years my brain (and allot of others) just cant use sticks (why the fuck do you keep jumping up!!! i flipping did Hadoken [banging fist on table] then brings back the pad) and yea your right when you get to this level it should be indistinguishable between pad and stick. (hopefully) lol gooteks.com refers to them (us) as "pad worriers" haha but speaking with numbers lets crunch a few for the average jo......... to get good at stick from scratch it would take say 100 - 150 hours of game play!!!!!!!!! to get good at street fighter 4 it would take say 120 hours of game play!!! and being that its been out in arcades for a year already and im in the uk so already lost a year!!! it would take me and other to long to learn it.... idd rather put that time into the game. so i gess im saying the same thing if you grew up with stick or already know how to use it, good your set. otherwise most new people just dont get how long it will take to get good at using a stick.
" "To prove my point bring your stick ill bring my pad and i bet it would still be an equal match."that is a very ignorant thing to say, which completely discredits your argument. though, i completely agree with you that sticks shouldn't scare people away from the game. but furthermore, street fighter was designed for arcade components so.... yeah....and as much as I love jeff gerstmann, are you seriously using him as an example? to which I retort, Daigo Umehara, and the rest of Japan uses sticks. "
DID you even read what i wrote....... Daigo Umehara ant that good because he uses a stick!! he's that good because he been playing hardcore for over 10 years..... what i said ant ignorant at all!!! bring two players of equal skill and it wont mater what there using... the only ignorant comment iv seen around here is yours "and the rest of Japan uses sticks" do you know everyone in japan. ill tell you for a fact that allot of good players there use pads. and the people i used as an example were just that examples, to say that if it rely was the wrong way to play it why are sooooooooooo many people using pads. sf4 was made from the start knowing that it would be played on pads!! thats why they put in the short shift movements in the game. and its actually stick players that are complaining saying that because of this allot of the time the wrong moves come out e.g to easy to dragon punch instead of fireball.
" The game is very accessible using the 360 pad, the problem lies in the fact it is damn near impossible to successfully pull some of the truly advanced combos using it with some degree of consistency. Try getting through Ken's hard trials (namely 3+) using the 360 pad. I cannot do it for the fucking life of me. I had to eliminate the 3 kick button in favor of a single focus attack button. Using a single button for focus attacks is almost necessary, trying to hit to 2 face buttons/dashing consistently is a problem....at least for me.You can still play competitively though. "
lol i was talking about the ps3 D-pad. tryed to play it on 360 at my friends........ idd say its imposable lol good on ya for getting that far!!
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