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Man, would have been a more interesting result without Kvyat throwing out that last safety car. Oh well, congrats to Lewis for picking the right team to drive for I guess.

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Tranq pistol only wins until you get the infinity bandana. After that, you're just being ridiculous if you don't switch to the Riot SMG.

Don't be a ridiculous person.

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@shindig: Unfortunately, you've now started to think about the plot more than Kojima himself. This wasn't a problem until MGS4, but nowadays you just have to accept that shit makes no sense and doesn't connect in a logical way.

It still doesn't make any sense that the real Big Boss ended up back at Foxhound, MGSV does nothing to clear that up. According to the timeline, Big Boss built Outer Heaven while Venom was dicking around in Africa and Afghanistan, then somehow got back into Foxhound as it's commander of all things. Then, (and this is where it gets murky) when the Operation Intrude missions began, he had Venom step in to take his place at Outer Heaven while he ran the missions (that were designed to fail) from Foxhound. He sent SS in thinking the dumb inferior clone rookie would either die or report back bad information, which would give Big Boss time to finish his Metal Gear. Shit went wrong and Venom ended up biting it.

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@shindig: Big Boss creates Outer Heaven, then when it's time to send Solid Snake in, he has Venom take his place so he can be in two places at once (the real Big Boss is the one leading Foxhound, giving Solid Snake "assistance" over radio). Solid Snake was never supposed to succeed in his mission.

Now a few things on Quiet. First off, I want it known that I despise this character and the way she's presented.

Now, having said that, she does not actually get raped. As soon as the Soviet solder pulls her pants down she goes to work. It's attempted rape, which is still played off in a disgustingly flippant manner, but it's at least somewhat better.

Also, although she did speak English, the parasites won't kill her. She leaves because she's going to become a walking bio-weapon à la Solid Snake in MGS4. The parasites kill you by attacking your lungs. Quiet doesn't have lungs anymore, so she's functionally immune.

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@junkboy0: I think you're just misunderstanding the scene a bit. Ishmael is on the hospital bed next to yours. He's the one that she's referring to, not you.

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@junkboy0 said:

@berserker976: That is not how I see that scene. She radios and says "not yet, the patient in the other bed saw my face. Of course, consider it done" I took that as skull face telling her to kill you as well. We were the only ones who saw her face and on the left side the curtain would've blocked Boss's view.

I'm always interested in outlandish Metal Gear theories, but I'm afraid this one is very easily disproved. If her target is the guy with the bandaged face that looks nothing like Big Boss, why does she ignore him and focus on killing you, even after he attacks her? If her main priority was to kill Ishmael you'd think she'd be more concerned with killing him than the crippled nobody that saw her face.

But mainly, it doesn't make sense because Quiet was sent to kill Big Boss by XOF, which means Skull Face, and Skull Face thinks Venom is the real Big Boss.

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@junkboy0 said:

Yeah I knew when he said "I'm you" and had your voice, Quiet before that says something like "the other one saw me" meaning she ins't her for you that put me on edge, then Ocelot said something along the lines of "I came back for the Boss , now lets go" basically telling you to come on but not calling you the boss.

Nah man, Quiet is there for you. She thinks that Venom is Big Boss. That's the entire point of the ruse.

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@caska said:

I was secretly hoping that during the truth mission when we first hear the real Big Boss talk that it was Hayter again with Keifer voicing Venom.

Trust me, a LOT of us were hoping for this. You're definitely not alone.

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Metal Gear Philanthropy: Solid Snake

Takes place in between MGS1 and MGS2. Solid Snake, Meryl, Otacon, Mei Ling, Nastasha, and Naomi travel the globe eliminating different models of Metal Gear that were spawned after Rex's data leaked.

Written by: Tomokazu Fukushima

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@artisanbreads: How can people think that Venom is in any way comparable to Solid Snake in terms of personality and development? He says like 5 lines over the course of the damn game.

From the time you start the OKB Zero mission, to after you defeat Sahelanthropus, he literally doesn't say a single word. That is absolutely unprecedented.