Damage Control
By BlackBond 1 Comments
Damage Control
Posted by Blackbond 03/20/2007 1:32pmcomments: 3
lawlessx wrote: |
BlackBond: But what about your claims of rumble being last gen and not needed? Harrison: I never said that? is this guy for real? |
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fatzombiepigeon wrote: |
People are actually taking your spin on PRs say as real. |
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 Ahhh great question. This should make some headlines on Kotaku I really like DMC 1 and 3. I just picked up the 3 pack of all the games and will hopefully have some time to replay them. I like the fighting system in the games...the storeies are ok but have never really grabbed me. I am looking forward to seeing what they do with DMC4 though...the early vids look somewhat promising...but again in they are really early and the game will most likely change a lot before it ships. As for Ninja gaiden ...I don't get too much time to play games...so when a games is a notoriously hard as that game is I don't get to spend the time with it I wish I could. I honestly really don't like uber difficult games...games that feel difficult for difficult's sake. Some people dig that, but not me. I haven't finished the game...mostly because it is too damn hard. If I had a ton more time to dedicate to it I could finish it, but in the end I just wonder what the point is. To each their own...I respect the quality of the game though, and the production vaules. The animations are freaking great. Story...not bad...but also not the greatest in the world. cory What about you? |
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 First...we have God difficulty and Titan Difficulty...It is not as crazy hard as Dante Must Die mode or anything, but it is no slouch either. As far as the rumble thing...it is a bit of a bummer but as a designer I am more interested in what the gameplay in the game will have to offer rather than some of the feedback. Rumble definely contributes to the immersion, and to be sure I am a big fan of it, but I am quite confident we can make fun gameplay experiences without the need for that...it was done with so many gamesbefore the rumble feature right? Man the Megaman games frustrated the hell out of me as a kid. I still played them a lot, but they made me so mad. Cory |
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Thanks for the info...good talking to you too man. I am the real deal though. I mean my over use of the ellipses should be evidence enough. cory |
corybarlog wrote: |
http://corybarlog.blogspot.com/ it's me...check the latest post...halfway down. there is a link to this thread cory |
Blackbond wrote: |
Well now seems like a good time to make a guide/review for directional pads since all the Virtual Fighter 5 hoop la. As someone who is constantly playing old school games I am very picky about my D-Pads. Controls affect everything in games like Contra, Gunstar Hero's, ect. But I was looking for a game that required lightning quick reflections and precision on the D-Pad so what else would I go besides Megaman There will be 5 controllers I will be testing out on the PC versions of Megaman X5 an X6. Xbox Duke and Controller S, Dual Shock, The 360 controller, and the PC Wireless cordless Rumble Pad 2. I have means and converters from Lik-Sang to hook each of them up so don't question my integrity I won't even hold you guys off in suspense I'll get right to the 360 controller. This controller is the most comfortable out of all of them and performs all basic functions of all games well but there were some minor problems playing the game. Moving in any of the verticle or horizontal direction is easy but sometimes when I got into a clutch situation even with my nerves of steel and knowledge of the game I made mistakes. The problem lies with this. In X4 the battle with Slash Beast requires for precise dashing throw the air high enough to avoid his ground attacks but low enough so that you don't get hit by his counter attacks or projectiles. To do this you need to do slight jumps on a diagonal. The problem is with this D-Pad you aren't gonna press UP/RIGHT or UP/LEFT you end up pressing that little concave decension in each diagonal. I found my dashing too low not getting enough air because I was going left and right instead of UP/LEFT or UP/RIGHT. On contrary when I noticed this I over compensated and I was leaning more to hitting the up button and not getting as much movement with my jumps to dodge. The solution? Most people manipulate a D-Pad with their thumb to overcome this I used the area of my thumb below the center. Now this helped a lot but I don't know how accurate this method could be in a fighting game. Like wise if you have a larger thumb then I have you might be able to get better use out of this. This thing is notorious for anything with a diagnol or curved motion. Definately its biggest draw back. This thing is essentially only good for menu selection with UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHt. D-Pad Rating 6.0/10 Next up the Controller S. This used to be the stable of my PC gaming before the Rumble Pad 2 came into the picture and it still is when I lend the rumble pad out. The D-Pad is nice and responsive but sometimes it feels to damn responsive. It performed well but I noticed tons of trouble when fighting Cyber Peakcock. A boss who likes to teleport to your left and right and shoots arrows that make you need to dodge quickly left and right. This is where this D-Pad ultimately shows its weakness. Going left to right on this thing is tough with out hitting DOWN/RIGHT, DOWN or DOWN/LEFT in the process. It is a constant pain. This constantly shortens dashes and causes you to get hit. Now before I continue I just picked up DOAU today also and played about a good 3 hours of it. How I manage with this controller after DOA2 on Dreamcast is beyond me. Moves the require motions such as FORWARD + FORWARD, BACK + BACK, or DOWN/FORWARD + DOWN/FORWARD have alearning curve because you tend to go in that direction one more time then you need to ah what a pain. This D-Pad is still managable and is still good. You just need to get used to it like getting used to a Dual Shock Analog Stick in a FPS It doesn't suffer from diagonal problems from the 360 though. D-Pad Rating 7.0/10 Now I only used this one to be fair I have know clue why the **** I even bothered with this. Not only did I have to borrow this piece from one of my boys this is the sole reason why I never owned an xbox until Controller S came out. This thing isn't a D-Pad its an 8 way directional or something so I've heard? Anyway its garbage. I struggled with web spider because you can't even push a direction on this thing you just put your thumb in the middle and then just kinda feel your way around. Its like analog D-Pad fir crying out loud. Imagine trying to play Megaman X with a Joystick it just doesn't work. So I plugged it in and tried playing DOA sorry that crap just wasn't up to snuff. Performing Limbo Stun Combo's was a struggle. So then I tested it on Madden (I play Maden with the D-Pad) Running the ball is a complete joke lol. Okay I admit I am biased on this one because I just absolutely can't stand the D-Pad or the controller period lol D-Pad Rating 5.0/10 Ah my friend the Dual Shock. You have served me well in many fighters and through the past in Madden. But you are shockingly the second most precise controller of the bunch. That being said you are the superior of all console D-Pads. There is never a mistake made with you while dashing, jumping, sliding ect. I always get the proper distance because your 4 arrows are seperated and easily accessible. Going left to right or hitting the diagonals is also easy. Using the thumb technique where you rest you part of your thumb below the center on you is not. But you don't need that you're good. But their is one problem with the D-Pad that I always hated but this hate was only exibited in Madden. Why is the damn thing so flat? It hardly feels like you are pressing down on it sometimes. If they would raise it no doubt it would be almost perfect. When I used my cross converter to use it on Doa (I have one cause bums at school won't play xbox cause they are cows and only use dualshocks) it played great. D-Pad nice and easy to use and never ended up tapping a direction any more times then I needed too. D-Pad Rating 9/10 Now this people is what I call perfection in a D-Pad. It has all the benifits of the Dual Shocks D-Pad except that "get this" Its raised! So you actually feel like you are pressing down on it. This and the circular feeling of the Genesis pad makes it the most accurate, comfortable, and accessable D-Pad there is. When I game on PC this is what I use. There is never a mistake at all playing any game and this is my tool of flawless I'll retire your ass only with the X-Buster and not get touched device. This thing is made by logitech and I did have a controller S that had a D-Pad like this but sadly I sold it. Therefore I could only test it on Megaman. No Doa or no Madden sorry guys Controller Rating 9.5/10 or N/A due to lack of games tested Lastly we have the Gamecube controller. Yay...Since I couldn't use this on my computer you know what I had to do...Bust out Megaman X anniversary collection on Gamecube duh lol. Anyways this thing is pretty bad. It is hard to get any direction down pact because the thing is too damn small. Why the hell did they make it so small? This is the only controller I ever use the joystick for if I'm playing Madden and that says something. There are constant deaths and loads of frustration from this thing in the fortress levels of X5. Looks like Nintendo is gonna get money out of me should I decide to download games on the Virtual Console cause this thing doesn't cut it. The only way I can find semi use to it is with the thumb technique. But even that is tough. I always looked t the GC D-Pad as just 4 additional inventory buttons. Like in Metroid Prime for switching visors. Seriously who ever used this thing in any game? D-Pad Rating 5.5/10 So there you have it my Guide to D-Pads. The Dual Shock is clearly the best among consoles although I think the Rumble Pad is the best overall. These reviews reflect the D-Pad not the overall controller. I have tons of games at my disposal if anybody has any suggestions on games to try then let me know I'll add my input. I can use any of the 3 last gen controllers on all three systems. Yes I know I'm nice like that. I was thinking about doing the Dreamcast and SNES controllers too. But I'll leave those out unless people really want to here about them. |
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