"Very very true.. if only the "money" men weren't there at all. Then we'd have much more good games. "
If they weren't there at all then there is no funding for the game. I agree that uniformed suites are the bane of existence on Wii right now as they are trying every trick and squeezing every gimmick and hestitant as hell to release blockbusters on the system because a spin off rail shooter did not do well, but you need money to pay the artist and designers.
You are because your comparisons still suck and this game still looks good and the art style is merely your opinion yet you just put down his. And when the fuck did you play it to know the online is "nor-so-good" then? All impressions of the Japanese release have been great, plenty of gameplay videos by users, not just PR media, showcase 4-player online boss fights with no network issues whatsoever, even among users from different regions, while we still don't know exactly what changes they're incorporating for the Western release. Not to mention you started this whole thing when he said it's one of the best looking Wii games, which it is, and you responded as if he said it's the best looking Wii game. Wtf?
@coonana said:
Say what you want but the visuals are some of the best the Wii has to offer.
Shitty youtube quality aside, I don't see how one cannot agree with his simple statement, or believe it just barely beats TP or some shit. Yeah it has segmented levels, boo hoo, so does Half-Life 2 and its expansions. The areas are still large, packed with detail, and the bosses are insane.
Let this shitty thread with its shitty screenshots, shitty sarcasm, shitty comparisons and shitty opinion bashing die. It's not even in the right forum, and it has no reason to exist in the first place since there are plentyofother threads discussing the game's graphics with screenshots and videos that better showcase the excellent work CAPCOM did to update the franchise for its first Wii outing. No, it's no Super Mario Galaxy, but no other Wii game is. Not to mention the thread was built on a completely false premise, the supposed updated visuals, which weren't. Wtf? And lol @ your reply. "
" demontium you do not understand graphics comparisons. I do not need to give evidence. You posted games that were in a more cartoon artstyle that do not compare and do not simply make MHTri not one of the best looking games on Wii. I mean while your at it you might as well compare NSMBW to this game. It is one of the best looking games on Wii as it pushes 30 FPS, huge environments, textures for 3d models are beyond most Wii games, and all while connected to other players. You are seriously confused on your opinion of its artstyle making it out to be some fact that the game's visuals are sub par. Thats nice you do not like the artstyle, but again it wins against most Wii games in a graphics race and definitely competes with the best. That is proof right there. "
No you do not need to give evidence for any of your opinions, its just something that really supports your argument. Just trying to help actually : )
Huge environments =/= good. You can split up most of the environments and load a lot of the game before it starts. Easily boosting the FPS there. BTW the wi-fi is nor-so good.
No. Art style is separate from technical standing, and alls I'm saying is that the art style is a bland fantasy world mess. Nothing too fun there.
Stating that it is one of the best games on Wii graphically and claiming it to be proof tells me two things: You haven't played many good-looking Wii games and you need to take a debate class.
Well, thats being optimistic, you may have a crappy TV and thus this game looks better on your PC than the games you have played on your tv. Maybe you have.... bad eyes, IDK, but luckily I am not the only one who notices that:
@Willy105 said:
" Monster Hunter 3 pales in comparison to Sonic and the Black Knight. That's the game to beat, not Zelda TP."
At least then I know I am not going crazy! "
No you basically did not understand what I said again, but thats fine.
When I said I did not need to give proof, I said that claiming you have not given proof yet, You have given us nothing as to why this game is not one of the best looking Wii games except you dislike the artsyle. You gave bad comparisons. Its a matter of apples( MHTri realistic grand style) to oranges(Punch-Out!! closed environment cartoon style). They both look very pretty but they are on different planets in terms of visuals.
Huge environments done right =/= very good. Obviously some games do not pull it off but games like GTA: San Andreas did it. And if you can do it without painful loading or ruining the framerate too much then that is a huge technical achievement and its why San Andreas is one of the nicest looking games last gen. Yes the framerate is going to take a hit and I actually do not know how much loading there is in MHTri.
I never said artsyle is intertwined with technical standing. Art style is almost entirely opinion based while technical speecs are factual (it either does or it doesn't). Seeing as MHTri fills landscapes that are detailed and pretty does have a good artstyle.
I have played all the good games on Wii and I have a great TV. Back handed internet talk does not make your baseless claim, that MHTri is basically shovelware in the visual department, any more true. All you can is you do not like the style that is as far as you can go on this.
demontium you do not understand graphics comparisons. I do not need to give evidence. You posted games that were in a more cartoon artstyle that do not compare and do not simply make MHTri not one of the best looking games on Wii. I mean while your at it you might as well compare NSMBW to this game.
It is one of the best looking games on Wii as it pushes 30 FPS, huge environments, textures for 3d models are beyond most Wii games, and all while connected to other players.
You are seriously confused on your opinion of its artstyle making it out to be some fact that the game's visuals are sub par.
Thats nice you do not like the artstyle, but again it wins against most Wii games in a graphics race and definitely competes with the best. That is proof right there.
Ok so you do not agree with the subtilties of how they allocate thier effects, but the tech is still at the top of the Wii game lists and so is LoZ:TP whether you like it or not. You may not like their artstyles in which they render these visuals but the games are still doing it better than 90% of the horrible looking games on Wii. MP3 is better competition but MHTri beats TP (still a beautiful game that competed with the likes of Oblivion). And MHTri does this with a more realistic artstyle not to mention connected online, with huge environments and sharp textures.
Again you may not like the artstyle but it is pushing the technical side much harder than most Wii games. It was an excellent way for Capcom to get a more active audience in Japan. I do not think it will be as effective here.
" and it circles again and makes no difference again. "
X + D = My face. That is nothing substantial. I give you two videos of games that are WAY beyond MHT's graphics, and then you say I am chasing my tail. "
*sigh* and you do it again...No I am saying it does not change the fact that MHTri still looks very good. Its like saying LoZ:TP has bad graphics because SMG has much better graphics. They both look better than most Wii games. Not to mention MHTri is already commonly considered as outperforming LoZ:TP in the graphics department overall. On top of that mess you made, they do not look way better. Its a complete overexaggeration and they are not even comparable to MHTri because they are completely different in artsyles. "
It looks okay *looks back at the screens*... Ya it doesn't look amazing. It has some shiny effects, but the textures are really blury and undetailed.
You should know that LoZ:TP is running off GCN specs, so beating TP is no accomplishment, especially since I like TP's artstyle more anyways (which tends to be the high graphical point on Wii).
Really? Go back and look at TvC one more time and tell me that game looks better. Sure they are different artstyles, as they should be. TvC and SMG2 just look beautiful, and MHT looks really muddy....
Can anyone back me up on this? I feel like I am going in circles since this argument is so simple.... @oldschool: 's opinion would be nice since he is one of the Wii aficionados here. "
I just wonder what Capcom is going to do with TvC and MHTri? They have such an uphill battle here in the States. Selling such experiences on Wii is hard as it is, you know they will barely advertise for these games, and these are very Japanese specific series they are not fully understood by Western markets. Capcom needs to wake up and get these games in some American conventions and showcase on the big screen.
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