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But that is not true. Zimmerman didn't instigate anything by following Martin. That is legal, and it's ridiculous to even think it shouldn't be. Martin instigated the fight when he assaulted Zimmerman.

Oh, just 50 years? Just before most, if not all of us on Giant Bomb were born yet? Man, that is relevant.

Yeah, that six-foot child obviously suffering from gigantism really got off badly here. Tripped and landed with his fists on Zimmerman's face, who then evilly said "I gotcha ******" and shot him, curse that villain!

I feel like saying too, getting beaten in the face, even if it doesn't cause significant injury, can get you killed. Any punches landed in the right parts of the face, like the temple, will put you out cold and put your life in danger, or outright kill you. So it's perfectly justified to defend yourself in that position.

@oursin_360: Lib, you have no idea who I am, stop calling me a racist. It's pathetic.

All that MMA training and low BMI really served him well getting his head bashed into the concrete. Yeah, I think I'd still rather be the six-foot-two football player, thanks.

@falserelic: Yes. Whatever the race was of the two involved, there was zero evidence pointing to Zimmerman being guilty. What I think it would mean is that the state and media wouldn't blow it up, the black man would simply have been left alone. There are thousands of black-on-white crimes every week and many far more vile than the one in this trial, but they are ignored because they aren't politically correct.

It's ancient history, lib, unlike this 2012 apparent "crime."

Also, conceal and carry. Zimmerman was not openly flashing his gun around, unless you're again making a huge leap in logic. Martin would likely only have seen the gun when it was revealed as he was ground and pounding Zimmerman. At which point the altercation happened and luckily, Zimmerman got to the gun first.

@oursin_360: I'm sorry you're so upset over it, but the law is the law. If you want to live in a police state where your poor baby thug doesn't get what's coming to him, move to some backwater hyper-liberal European country where no one has guns. I'm sure whatever fantastic job you have they'll want, right?

Oh yes, he only smoked a little weed, got a little suspended, broke a few laws. And apparently I am the racist for pointing out the facts. Martin had the physical advantage on Zimmerman and the only witness testimony backed up everything Zimmerman said. Let it go, if you have nothing interesting to offer on why the verdict was wrong.

@spaceinsomniac: There is actually no evidence to suggest Zimmerman approached Martin beyond the point where the operator told him to stop. It's very possible and likely in my mind that Martin was the one who approached Zimmerman with the intent to assault him, from the bottom of the estate back up to the top where lies the crime scene. This is because Zimmerman seems to stop in his tracks on the recorded phone message, and moments before the conflict Trayvon's call to his girlfriend pretty much proves he's moving towards Zimmerman.

I also don't think "pursuit" should be an added clause to this law, it would make it far more complicated when it's obviously legal to be anywhere someone else is. What constitutes "following" someone? Just seems needless and wouldn't really help anything.

@oursin_360: Again your argument has no factual backing it's just a hypothetical. It's just as likely a third man shot Martin from the grassy knoll and framed Zimmerman, that's the level of illogical thinking it takes to back this argument. Everything we know points towards Zimmerman being not guilty and no amount of bullshit will change that.

I define it by Florida law. I wonder why? Hm...

Sorry but I have bad news on all that bullshit in the second paragraph... it doesn't amount to anything illegal. You are allowed to get out of your car with a concealed weapon (oh the horror) and follow people all you want. Even if the police say you can't, like the 911 operator. None of this is illegal. What doesmatter is who threw the first punch. But we'll never know that. Based on what we doknow, we can assume it was Martin. There is 0 evidence to suggest that Zimmerman initiated the fight or even fought at all until he shot his gun.

You can suppose all you want that he threw the first punch but there's nothing to factually back that up. And as much as you may say Trayvon Martin was a baby just out of kindergarten who got straight A's and din do nuffin, I can attest to the fact he smoked week, had a Twitter account called "NO_LIMIT_N****" and thought he was hot shit. He had no future, and didn't even live with his parents who are profiting off of all this publicity like parasites.

I am not saying he deserved to die, but he had it coming to him for beating up a man who had just as much right to be there as him and who was physically far less able. A 17-year-old black football player versus a podgy white-hispanic nightwatchman. It is not in Zimmerman's favour.

Follow has nothing to do with anything. I can walk down the street same as you, "follow" you all I want, unless I start to stalk you. "Killing someone" is kind of complicated. In your vague definition soldiers murder millions of innocent people every year. There are legal reasons why citizens may kill someone, whether by accident or in self-defense.