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#1  Edited By Flawed_System

@Scooper said:

@Flawed_System said:

What are the consequences for leaving Islam again?

Death for apostasy!

For real, welcome to the real world :)

I know, it was more of a rhetorical question.

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What are the consequences for leaving Islam again?

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I was mostly referring to the organized crime in the US as the people who were behind the illegal manufacture and distribution of alcohol at that time but yeah, you're not wrong. My point about weed though still stands.

As you have pointed out, there are a variety of grades, if the government forces the cartels to compete they will inevitably meet government level quality. They can obviously produce it for a reduced price and sell it for increased profits. This leads into what I was describing before. Heavy taxes on the final government product are also a factor that we should consider.

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@Flawed_System said:

@iAmJohn said:

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@bombHills said:

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Giving it to cancer patients is fine. Recreational use should remain illegal.

Why?

Some people are just too healthy to smoke pot.

Medicinal purposes. I don't support recreational drug usage.

Note that you didn't actually answer my question, you just restated your position. So I'll ask again: Why do you think people should not be allowed to smoke pot if they want?

That's not the question you asked. You asked "Why?" I assumed you were asking why it was okay for cancer patients to use it.

Psychedelic drugs, no matter how presumably "mild" they are, should be legal. Aside from obvious reasons such as operating machinery, vehicles etc. It creates competition among cartels and other illegal avenues to pursue a more aggressive pricing, thus, making territory more valuable. Government control over drugs won't eliminate the cartels, it will make the market more competitive for these cartels, thus, escalating violence. What makes people think they won't undercut government pricing?

I highly doubt that will end up happening. I have no idea why any sane person would give their money to drug cartels for shit schwag over paying for regulated high grade marijuana just to save themselves a quick buck. That just seems ridiculous to me. If what you say is true then why didn't we see this happen with alcohol when it became legal again in the US? The cartels will be fine for now for sure because legalization isn't widespread but once it is I personally think they're fucked and will have to find new sources of revenue like they always do.

Alcohol wasn't a drug that the cartels were interested in.

"The sale of alcohol was illegal, but alcoholic drinks were still widely available. People also kept private bars to serve their guests."

"There were, however, several loopholes for people to legally drink during Prohibition. For instance, the 18th Amendment did not mention the actual drinking of liquor. Since Prohibition went into effect a full year after the 18th Amendment's ratification, many people bought cases of then-legal alcohol and stored them for personal use. The Volstead Act allowed alcohol consumption if it was prescribed by a doctor. Needless to say, large numbers of new prescriptions were written for alcohol."

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@bombHills said:

@Flawed_System said:

@bombHills said:

@iAmJohn said:

@Flawed_System said:

Giving it to cancer patients is fine. Recreational use should remain illegal.

Why?

Some people are just too healthy to smoke pot.

Medicinal purposes. I don't support recreational drug usage.

Recreational/Therapeutical/Medical

It's all from the same plant. How much benefit does one need before it's considered medical? My "recreational" use keeps me happy, gives me insight, helps me relax & sleep. Is that medical enough for ya?

Also, I take it that you do not partake in any recreational substance like caffeine, nicotine, alcohol or viagra (yes, that's recreational). That's great, but please support the right of all people to make their own decisions as to what if any substances to ingest.

I don't consume coffee, nicotine, or alcohol. The only drug you listed was Viagra and that's clearly used for medical purposes (Erectile Dysfunction).

Underlined: Do you support the legalization of any and all drugs?

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@iAmJohn said:

@Flawed_System said:

@bombHills said:

@iAmJohn said:

@Flawed_System said:

Giving it to cancer patients is fine. Recreational use should remain illegal.

Why?

Some people are just too healthy to smoke pot.

Medicinal purposes. I don't support recreational drug usage.

Note that you didn't actually answer my question, you just restated your position. So I'll ask again: Why do you think people should not be allowed to smoke pot if they want?

That's not the question you asked. You asked "Why?" I assumed you were asking why it was okay for cancer patients to use it.

Psychedelic drugs, no matter how presumably "mild" they are, should be legal. Aside from obvious reasons such as operating machinery, vehicles etc. It creates competition among cartels and other illegal avenues to pursue a more aggressive pricing, thus, making territory more valuable. Government control over drugs won't eliminate the cartels, it will make the market more competitive for these cartels, thus, escalating violence. What makes people think they won't undercut government pricing?

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@bombHills said:

@iAmJohn said:

@Flawed_System said:

Giving it to cancer patients is fine. Recreational use should remain illegal.

Why?

Some people are just too healthy to smoke pot.

Medicinal purposes. I don't support recreational drug usage.

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Giving it to cancer patients is fine. Recreational use should remain illegal.

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#10  Edited By Flawed_System

The American people will get what they deserve.